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I'm sure video game publishers and ISPs will come together and find a way to double-team customer's time and wallets.
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FCC Republicans vow to gut net neutrality rules as soon as possible
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I'm sure video game publishers and ISPs will come together and find a way to double-team customer's time and wallets.
Danis Saur
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I don't understand, so I'll pay an extra $5 to use Google on top of my monthly Internet bill?
More likely that people using paid-for services will have to shoulder some increased cost, and some free services may become paid-for to handle it.
Version 3.0
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Google? No. More likely you'll have to choose an internet package that includes X amount of different usage types.
For example:
$80 per month for X amount of "general browsing" (this would include Google), Y amount of streaming movies/music, and Z amount of gaming/voice chat. Something like that.
And then, you'll find that the X and Z amounts are more than enough, but to cover the amount of Youtube and Netflix of the "Y" category that you use, you have to jump up to the $200 per month package.
Sweeney Tom
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To the people who for some reason are still against protesting: I hope you hear about this kind of stuff every day through January 19.
When January 20 comes, we need to all come together and protest every act these people try to do. Every one.
When January 20 comes, we need to all come together and protest every act these people try to do. Every one.
Ziltoidia 9
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Think of it as being a toll road. If you surf on it, it will cost you more....but you COULD go down the "free" (IE, tax funded) road that makes your route 10 minutes longer....but if you pay extra you can go down the faster one.
no, you'll probably just have the option to join the angry mob and decapitate your local ISP officials
then you can continue using google as normal
Are you making the free market will sort itself out argument? Great idea in theory if you ignore a significant chunk of reality. You know like many areas having only one ISP option, ISPs working together to cut turf and keep competitors out and prices stably increasing, the lobbying powers of said ISPs to keep startups uncompetitive if they can even start, and all of this wrapped up in what we call an oligopoly.
Mr. Giggles
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It'll be like I'm 13 again.
That's hot, you can almost see a nipple...maybe
No, it won't be confined to the US. We joke about the worst case scenario being internet-tiers.jpg and "$9.99 to access gaf", but what often gets overlooked is the potential damage to innovation. All the new services that never launched (or launched, but didn't gain traction) because they couldn't afford the ISP tolls on top of existing infrastructure costs.
Net neutrality is what gave us all the services we use today, and without it we could be stuck with them because nobody can afford to compete.
Bingo, this is one of the darkest truths to the loss of Net Neutrality. The loss of innovation will be substantial and only serve to entrench the companies wealthy enough to play now.
Say you have some great ideas on how to challenge something like Skype in video messaging. You're going to have to start up your company without the money to pay for the fast lane that Skype pays for and because of it your service, despite being better, will be automatically inferior and you'll eventually lose to the established company because they had the means to pay to play. Now, you could argue that you could get venture capital (VC) to pay for the fees and that's certainly true in some cases. But for many, the inability to even get the product off the ground without VC money will be enough to kill the startup before it even starts.
This isn't an ISP selection problem anymore. This is a technology industry problem. If you think this won't affect something like YouTube, Gmail, or any other major service Google provides? Especially when the majority of Google's consumers aren't on Google Fiber? You're nuts.
timetokill
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Maybe if there was an actual competitive market, but there isn't. ISPs have largely divided up the country and don't bother competing that much. Far more money in colluding and not bothering with improving infrastructure than actually competing with each other. And over time we're seeing mergers that result in even fewer choices.
5 miles away from me before they slowed expansions WAY DOWN. 2020 target for me now. ;(
Elections are just as much about defending previous gains as it is making further progress. Hopefully democrats keep this case study in mind next election.
As for net neutrality: this is another example of regulatory capture by corporate interests. Big players get to further entrench their dominant position, leaving a tougher playing field for upstarts and new entrants.
As for net neutrality: this is another example of regulatory capture by corporate interests. Big players get to further entrench their dominant position, leaving a tougher playing field for upstarts and new entrants.
jesus what a nightmare if shit like that comes to pass. Just take them the fuck out at that point. Any means necessary.
There's no competition in the ISP market. You have maybe two choices for high speed internet based on where you live, if you're not unlucky. If Comcast is the only option in your area, they can do anything they want to you.
Watching video on CBS.com? Check out all this speed! Watch anything you want at 4K!
Watching Netflix? Suddenly your streaming quality mysteriously tops out at 480p.
Baron Aloha
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Democrats won't do anything. The providers are gonna spread some of that extra cash around and make sure of that.
CreepingFear
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Who is laughing now at my 700 GB porn stash?
Sure they can. Republicans are in office.
The government, because they'll just spy on you and log that information against you.
Mike Pompeo will likely play a role in that...
700 gb lol pleb, us true offline gods LAUGH with GUSTO indeed.
CreepingFear
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VPN and Encryption.
Don't worry they'll probably ban those at some point
Until they say terrorists who have something to hide use those methods.
What then?
GUNS AND AMMO BABY
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo
yeah boiiiiiiiii. fuck it i dont even know man lets blow shit up
SynthFetish
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"Small government"
Until they then start saying "thugs" shouldn't get rights to guns.
Segment rights to access. The destruction of the internet starts with information, the species' perhaps greatest tool.
it ok plenty willing to strap up for the cause. shit get real in good measure if the rabbit hole go down deep enough.
AwesomeSauce
MagsMoonshine
I vow to do whatever I can to counter and protest these fools. This is one of my biggest fears with Trump coming into office and it's coming sooner than I expected :/
catapult37
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Where can I donate to help with this? The EFF has nothing at all on their front page specific to net neutrality. Who's on the forefront?
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Can internet be reclassified as a public utility on the state or municipal level
With the terrorists in charge?
No. Internet is a privilege.
Just like health care.
Just like education.
And soon, just like food and housing.
With what they have in mind, will the U.S essentially be working on a gimped version of the internet, while places like Canada, UK, etc be business as usual?
I'm not trying to say it'll be like North korea's 'internet', but I can only imagine this as a gated version of the internet we have now. Is that correct?
I'm not trying to say it'll be like North korea's 'internet', but I can only imagine this as a gated version of the internet we have now. Is that correct?
uncelestial
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Feel bad for my friend who is a PM on the Playstation Vue product. Vue and DirecTV Now are direct competitors to cable offerings -- very likely about to get blasted out of the market.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Correct me I am wrong but doesn't Canada's internet work similar to the US's version of phone data plans? Which is funny because for a few years unlimited Data was the norm and not that expensive..... then they "upgraded" the system and starting capping the amount. Then they reintroduced unlimited Data but with slow downs..... That is what I feel like the internet will be broken down into if the repugnicans get there way.
cheezcake
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Lol that place deletes anything not pro Trump within seconds. I'm wondering if one day theyll realise that they were the biggest safe space of all.
AstroNut325
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Start contacting the board members of the FCC, your state senators, and your house reps.
Do that everyday.
I'm trying to find a way to keep the big tech companies to get involved. I need to start tweeting the heads on Sony, Netflix, MS, and others.
Do that everyday.
I'm trying to find a way to keep the big tech companies to get involved. I need to start tweeting the heads on Sony, Netflix, MS, and others.
It's maddening. States/municipalities give isps franchise rights hat are akin to the monopolies that public utilities get without the trade off of having to justify every cost they charge.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Is there a mass email thing like there was last time?
I feel like this sort of info should get a sticky at the top of every gaf board.
Well guess I'll just be watching my X-Files DVD collection over and over again for the next couple of years.
Haha, it's true tho.
Haha, it's true tho.
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