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Haha, yeah that would be awesome. The first and probably last time I tried that was on a Sega Ferrari arcade unit years ago!Diablohead said:ONE DAY I will own a triple screen setup and a racing seat, one day...
Haha, yeah that would be awesome. The first and probably last time I tried that was on a Sega Ferrari arcade unit years ago!Diablohead said:ONE DAY I will own a triple screen setup and a racing seat, one day...
Too bad you can't buy a decent wheel for a good price.Diablohead said:ONE DAY I will own a triple screen setup and a racing seat, one day...
I wonder why MS stopped the prodution of their wheel? I know it isn't a G25/27 or even the GT Force one with 900 degrees which I used a hell of a lot during GT4, but it's an okay wheel for the original retail price. I'm so glad I found the last one (the packaging was really dusty) in a store a few years back!brotkasten said:Too bad you can't buy a decent wheel for a good price.
brotkasten said:Too bad you can't buy a decent wheel for a good price.
It would be nice if they did, but I just don't know if they see the large earnings in doing so. The Kinect support also kills the chances somewhat, I would think MS rather wants people to buy that instead of a wheel.saladine1 said:I know budget is a discerning factor but imo, to get the full experience of a game like GT, SHIFT or FM, a full ball 900 deg,H shifter and decent clutch setup is king. It adds so much to the game that it makes it feel completely different from stock.
I really wonder how much more people would've played Forza if a decent setup was on offer.
Realistically speaking, could MS offer a full fledged setup?
amar212 said:I would drastically separate light/medium/heavy tuned cars (through some virtual percentage of modification) into separate categories in order to prevent their usage in both offline and online and balancing the overall experience.
Totally agree, if I can tune a shitty VW Golf into competing with Ferrari's and win, then I should be able too. It usually ends up being a car you have real difficulties to control, but then it's even more fun to win with a really tuned up low-end car. The safe option is to buy a car in the class you are competing and maintain a high level of car control is there too, so everyone is happy.G Rom said:You see, I disagree completely with you there and I think it's one of the biggest difference between GT and Forza actually. GT isn't oriented toward tuning and customizing contrary to Forza.
I like the fact that in Forza I can buy a car and make it my own by tuning it, buying a livery and all that shit. I like how I can tune a car to compete with better cars or even supercars.
saladine1 said:I know budget is a discerning factor but imo, to get the full experience of a game like GT, SHIFT or FM, a full ball 900 deg,H shifter and decent clutch setup is king. It adds so much to the game that it makes it feel completely different from stock.
I really wonder how much more people would've played Forza if a decent setup was on offer.
Realistically speaking, could MS offer a full fledged setup?
For 240 bucks I got a pretty good wheel, a shifter that doesn't suck and a decent set of pedals. With the Fanatec you only get a pretty good wheel for a higher price. I didn't like the standard pedals that much and the shifter is laughable. The G27 is the better package in my opinion and I won't pay 100 bucks more just to play Forza with a wheel.antiquegamer said:What's wrong with Fanatec wheel? It's decently price and compatible with all 3 platform.
I completely agree. The concept of owning a car is much bigger in Forza, because you can do everything you want with it. It really is your car and you can give it a personal touch.G Rom said:You see, I disagree completely with you there and I think it's one of the biggest difference between GT and Forza actually. GT isn't oriented toward tuning and customizing contrary to Forza.
I like the fact that in Forza I can buy a car and make it my own by tuning it, buying a livery and all that shit. I like how I can tune a car to compete with better cars or even supercars.
Would I want Turn 10 to refocus on racing ? Sure, especially after the unbalanced economy on the storefront caused by the painter earning way too much compared to racers.
Would I want them to drop the livery aspect ? Absolutely not, Forza would loose pretty much all of its "soul" IMO.
What's wrong with the shifter?brotkasten said:For 240 bucks I got a pretty good wheel, a shifter that doesn't suck and a decent set of pedals. With the Fanatec you only get a pretty good wheel for a higher price. I didn't like the standard pedals that much and the shifter is laughable.
On the flipside, there are plenty of us who think that the Fanatec is the better package, InsideSimRacing included.brotkasten said:The G27 is the better package in my opinion and I won't pay 100 bucks more just to play Forza with a wheel.
G Rom said:You see, I disagree completely with you there and I think it's one of the biggest difference between GT and Forza actually. GT isn't oriented toward tuning and customizing contrary to Forza.
I like the fact that in Forza I can buy a car and make it my own by tuning it, buying a livery and all that shit. I like how I can tune a car to compete with better cars or even supercars.
Pepto said:What's wrong with the shifter?
antiquegamer said:I have to agree with him, the shifter do suck. The H-gate one stuck constantly and mine eventually broke, but the sequential shifter work fine. Standard pedal is good but Logitech one is better.
Anyway, I really don't understand why Logitech doesn't make Xbox 360 wheel aside from the fact that may be they don't feel that there's a viable market for it.
You sir deserve a cookie.amar212 said:My point is that overall tuning-approach - where Forza obliterate all competition with options and execution, no doubt about it - should be made more "real". I would like to see handicaps of tuning where inappropriate modification (slamming only biggest turbo on some 2.0 engine for example without any other improvements) would not take you anywhere and eventually would destroy the car. It would call for introduction of "ownership/maintenance" approach of course, but it would also add a whole new dimension into everything.
In light of existing deep and all-around approach to tuning itself I would really like to see that overall mechanical and component-wear be introduced, together with some "tuning-consequence" algorithm.
But nevermind, I am sure that many improvements are in the oven and there are just few days until the pie is ready
Again, I got a complete set from Logitech for 240. For that price you won't even get the wheel from Fanatec, let alone pedals and a shifter. Considering that Forza is the only racing game worth playing on the Xbox, I don't think that the Fanatec is the better deal. Sucks that you have to pay 100 bucks to get a good shifter.Psychotext said:On the flipside, there are plenty of us who think that the Fanatec is the better package, InsideSimRacing included.
Related, I'm looking forward to getting the clubsport shifter.
And GT5 is the only racing game thats worth playing on the PS3, so the better deal is to have the wheel that lets you play on XBOX, PS3 and PC.brotkasten said:Again, I got a complete set from Logitech for 240. For that price you won't even get the wheel from Fanatec, let alone pedals and a shifter. Considering that Forza is the only racing game worth playing on the Xbox, I don't think that the Fanatec is the better deal. Sucks that you have to pay 100 bucks to get a good shifter.
For at least 100 bucks more, yeah. At least Forza 4 doesn't have a permanent driving aid anymore what makes the wheel useless.soundscream said:And GT5 is the only racing game thats worth playing on the PS3, so the better deal is to have the wheel that lets you play on XBOX, PS3 and PC.
saladine1 said:I know that's all too much for a console game aimed at the masses but boy oh boy, wouldn't it be wonderful if the world was Wonderland!
How does it make the wheel useless?brotkasten said:For at least 100 bucks more, yeah. At least Forza 4 doesn't have a permanent driving aid anymore what makes the wheel useless.
$100 is worth being able to use it on all platforms.brotkasten said:For at least 100 bucks more, yeah. At least Forza 4 doesn't have a permanent driving aid anymore what makes the wheel useless.
When I bought my Fanatec wheel it was actually the same price as the G27 (No-where was selling the G25 in the UK... not that it's a comparable wheel).brotkasten said:Again, I got a complete set from Logitech for 240. For that price you won't even get the wheel from Fanatec, let alone pedals and a shifter.
saladine1 said:You sir deserve a cookie.
That's exactly what I've been requesting for years!
In reality, whack on a truck turbo on a little Charade, car won't move. Whack in a massive cam into an engine with an ultra low compression ratio, car won't even idle. 1000hp motor without a beefed up diff or gearbox equals blown parts strewn across the track.
You would have consequences for a bad upgrade or tuning decision. Blown motors,blown turbos,oil and water blowouts, temp problems, ignition problems...etc.
I would also love to have the ability to really concentrate on building a bulletproof motor and driveline in indiviual steps:
Bore,hone,deck,grout filling,4 bolt main conversions,dome,flat or dish top pistons,stud or shaft roller rockers,milling and porting heads,valve sizes,thinner gaskets,high or low rise manifolds,port matching,injecting a carby motor and vice versa,6/71 or 8/71 blowers with pulley sizes etc..
Gearbox and diff mods such as corvette servos,manualized auto's, big or small stall converters, transbrakes,Powerglides, Muncies, Borg Warners, 9 inch diff conversions,mini tubs,link rears,strengthened tailshafts, wide rubber, cheesecutters at the front..etc..etc..etc
I know that's all too much for a console game aimed at the masses but boy oh boy, wouldn't it be wonderful if the world was Wonderland!
Fair enough.Psychotext said:When I bought my Fanatec wheel it was actually the same price as the G27 (No-where was selling the G25 in the UK... not that it's a comparable wheel).
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saladine1 said:Who wants a job at Turn 10?
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E3 bitches, we shall see FM4 at E3!
G Rom said:Seems like Turn 10 really is growing. The screenshot/video jobs, a new addition in the community team and now that.
It's probably related to FM3's success. Last time I checked, the leaderboard was very close to 4 million entries. All in all, the game is probably sitting at 5 or 6 million of copies sold so Microsoft probably granted more things to Turn 10.
Anyway, less than one day to go now.
Nah, I can see him walking out to this though:skyfinch said:If Dan walks out to that song, I will freak!
skyfinch said:If Dan walks out to that song, I will freak!
saladine1 said:
Subaru WRX STi
Dan is not walking on stage. He will drive on stage. In this, while this plays.G Rom said:We all know that this is what needs to be played while Dan walks on stage and then screams "THIS IS FORZA 4 !!!!", like a boss !
Broman1978 said:Damn!!! TOMORROW We will see Forza 4!!!
I feel like a little kid the night before Christmas \o/
Shaneus said:
With studio pictures, which reveal they have been working on Project Gotham Racing 5.Spaceman Spiff said:So we've got the MS press conference tomorrow, the IGN live show demo Tuesday, and the dedicated FM4 event Wednesday. In addition, there's the press writeups from the Turn 10 studio tour a while back, and all the official news and media from FM.net.
Should be enough to keep us busy for a while.
Bring it.
brotkasten said:I expect a 458 in the background, but Dan won't drive it. It will still look badass.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Dan_Greenawalt_unveiling_Forza_Motorsport_3_at_E309.jpg/800px-Dan_Greenawalt_unveiling_Forza_Motorsport_3_at_E309.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]
I've never seen that picture before! Pretty much what I was visualising. More hoping that the smoke would be generated from Dan lighting em up in a 458, but beggars can't be choosy.