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Halo |OT14| They call it Halo
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The Librarian
Banned
What do you mean? I have a code for the map pack (LE purchase) but I haven't downloaded any of the maps because I don't play the game.
Digital Extremes, Certain Affinity, and 343 Industries are gangbanging its corpse.
No you're not, you, somewhat poorly, agreed with what I said.
I mean, I'm not really sure where the controversy lies. Do people just want to ignore the significant drop in sales from Halo 3 to ODST?
Shake Appeal
Member
Me neither. Did Ghal quit completely, too?
The P of Poland
Member
Yes. He mostly just plays Skyrim now, like me.
The difference is, you wrongly attributed that to ODST being a bad game, rather than the massive increase in popularity that COD enjoyed between the two launches.
Rest in pieces (NSFW)
Steelyuhas
Member
User 73706
Banned
Are you ignoring the fact that it was a campaign expansion-gone-full retail game? Why would you possibly expect a spinoff to do as well as Halo 3?
No, that's the ENTIRE point I've been making since the beginning of this never ending argument.
No I haven't, I have stated hundreds, perhaps now thousands of times that I think ODST is a great game. I did so earlier, I had also stated in THAT VERY POST, that launching the fully priced ODST against MW2 was an absolutely disastrous move. Not once had I EVER stated ODST damaged the series due to the quality of the game.
Conor 419 said:
I mean, what!? You've both taken exactly what I said, and criticised me for not saying it.
Garrett 2U
Member
Steelyuhas
Member
StalkerUKCG
Banned
This is true. He has never said that ODST was bad.
While i completely disagree with him that ODST damaged the Halo Brand I can see how he could form that opinion (even if it goes against what evidence supports).
He believes ODST damaged the brand because it had poor marketing and launched at full price.
The P of Poland
Member
I see. Apologies. I'm still not entirely sure what you propose to have done instead, though.
I appreciate this is a gesture of goodwill, so thanks. I have to dispute the last point however, because I don't think I've claimed the marketing (which I believed to have been excellent, though misleading) was poor. The main points, at their core, boil down to Microsoft launching a fully priced expansion pack vs MW2.
Budget title with emphasis that it is only an expansion to Halo 3. Appropriately priced it wouldn't have suffered the critical backlash it recieved, it would also have not left many of those who bought it at launch feeling ripped off. More positive reception and the lower price would have in turn probably led to better sales and and the critical acclaim this title deserves. This ultimately would have led to a stronger anticipation of Reach.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
This is pitiful that we, as a Halo community (not just GAF), have to SCAVENGE for fun in Halo 4's MM.
Seriously, the hell with MM and limiting players to what the devs want you to play. I'd much rather have a Custom Games Browser with 2892730482734 games where I could find exactly what I want, even if it's only the same 10 people out of thousands online that I find similar interests with.
That's the problem people have with the idea of a CGB right? Too many options? Well... that's how communities are born and relationships are made. New friends are rarely met through MM, imagine how fun Halo would be if they constantly expanded upon improving the online structure they've had since Halo 2 instead of keeping the same, tired and limited shit..
What a disappointment. I used to love playing games on a service like XBC where everyone was together in one place. Going from games like Camo/PP/stickies only to 2v2 on Chill Out to Hog Wars to 2 hour long games of CTF. Games right there, advertised in one simple spot with ease of access. Shit's backwards now breh..
They should experiment with something like giving the player a good selection of filter options so they could match people up accordingly based on those parameters:
^Possibly a better way to do MM? IDK, but anything is better than what we have at this point IMO.
Seriously, the hell with MM and limiting players to what the devs want you to play. I'd much rather have a Custom Games Browser with 2892730482734 games where I could find exactly what I want, even if it's only the same 10 people out of thousands online that I find similar interests with.
That's the problem people have with the idea of a CGB right? Too many options? Well... that's how communities are born and relationships are made. New friends are rarely met through MM, imagine how fun Halo would be if they constantly expanded upon improving the online structure they've had since Halo 2 instead of keeping the same, tired and limited shit..
What a disappointment. I used to love playing games on a service like XBC where everyone was together in one place. Going from games like Camo/PP/stickies only to 2v2 on Chill Out to Hog Wars to 2 hour long games of CTF. Games right there, advertised in one simple spot with ease of access. Shit's backwards now breh..
They should experiment with something like giving the player a good selection of filter options so they could match people up accordingly based on those parameters:
- Radar: On/Off
- Loadouts: Restricted/Custom
- Teams: Yes/No
- ---If Yes, then you can choose between a few options like Doubles, 4v4s, BTB.
- etc. etc.
^Possibly a better way to do MM? IDK, but anything is better than what we have at this point IMO.
xxjuicesxx
Member
ODST stunk. People were like "What the hell is this, wheres the MP?"
Then they were like "Halo Reach? Why are the making it CoD!? Oh well it cant get worse than this!"
Then they were like "Halo 4...
whyyyyyyyy"
Then they were like "Halo Reach? Why are the making it CoD!? Oh well it cant get worse than this!"
Then they were like "Halo 4...
whyyyyyyyy"If this ever happens, I'm out of Halo. It's the biggest bullshit in history of gaming, that people can rent a server and kick people, just because they are good or just because they have the power to do so.
ODST stunk. People were like "What the hell is this, wheres the MP?"
Then they were like "Halo Reach? Why are the making it CoD!? Oh well it cant get worse than this!"
Then they were like "Halo 4...
People who thought that about ODST are really dumb and didn't understand how it was developed
Agreed. I seriously think every game with support for dedicated servers, especially those that popularized the trend in the first half of the 90s, are one of the biggest blemishes on the history of gaming.
You shouldn't have to and don't have to be aware of a game's development cycle to form an opinion on the final product.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Fyrewulff - I spotted your Binary/Light Rifle bug in the a cutscene just now - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlQeLoTUoZE&t=14m55s
MS positioned it as the next big Halo game with price, marketing and release scheduling, it was their fault, not the consumers.
Moa
Member
So I'm reading through a topic on Waypoint for people to submit their maps for Matchmaking.
One map was designed for 4v4, and is slightly smaller than Haven, but has a Banshee, Ghost & Mongoose on it.
Another guy remade Uncaged, another guy remade Countdown and one final guy remade Ascension & Hang 'Em High.
I'm crying.
One map was designed for 4v4, and is slightly smaller than Haven, but has a Banshee, Ghost & Mongoose on it.
Another guy remade Uncaged, another guy remade Countdown and one final guy remade Ascension & Hang 'Em High.
I'm crying.
Well, go into developer servers then? I don't see the issue. Battlefield 3's system is definitely not without its faults, but it still works pretty amazingly.
Either way there shouldn't be a server browser without matchmaking along with it.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Like half the people in this world have below Average IQ!
Plus noone gives a shit how the game was developed they just expect to get a full game when they pay full price. Not everyone nerds out and reads every detail before buying something, sometimes people are busy working and banging chicks.
Even with standardized 343 servers?
I hate abusive server admins just as much as you do, but I hosted a server on BF3 a few times with settings and maps I enjoyed and had a great time.
what kind of monster are you
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
As much as people would like to discredit what Conor is saying, there's actually truth to it.
This is the reality of the mentality of people, people.
This. Halo turned into Nintendo with its franchise:
This is the reality of the mentality of people, people.
This. Halo turned into Nintendo with its franchise:
Molasses.
Steelyuhas
Member
One that likes fun
When I played BF3 last time, they weren't any official DICE servers in Europe and I really hated it, to get kicked from a server, when we were dominating or played differently.
I don't know, but I wouldn't give the server-admins the ability to kick people...
YourExWife
Member
Latvian Hitman
Member
Too bad- then rent your own server or play on the official ones.
The BF3-style model mentioned in the post you're replying to would be the best thing to ever happen to the Halo franchise, IMO. Sure, you're eventually going to run into assholes that kick you for no reason, etc.- but in not too much time you will find good servers run by good people, you'll favorite them, and you'll play on them. Besides, it's not like there's any shortage of griefing, lag-switching, host-booting assholes to bump into in regular MM as it exists now. If you want to play a game online with strangers, assholes are always going to figure into the mix.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Just got a capture box and have never used one. I'm streaming some Far Cry 3, can someone let me know if it's working alright?
http://www.twitch.tv/deadlycyclone
http://www.twitch.tv/deadlycyclone
Latvian Hitman
Member
Yep- it's looking normal to me. I think you're good to go.
There are DICE servers in every region, unless you're looking for certain obscure gametype/map combinations. I've played a shitload of BF3 and I've had kicking/banning issues maybe a handful of times. Again, alongside a matchmaking system having a custom game browser could be one of the best things to happen to Halo in a long time.
RIPIP
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Cool, it's a bit choppy on my PC so I wanted to make sure 1080p wasn't too much.
Steelyuhas
Member
I think the BF3 setup would be near perfect if matchmaking only put you in official DICE servers instead of lumping them together. Then if you wanted to, you could browse the servers for custom ones if you'd like.
xxjuicesxx
Member
play it on your personal computer.
Shake Appeal
Member
In a funny way, Far Cry 3 is to Far Cry 2 what Halo 4 is to Halo 3.