I swear these numbers only go up. Last time I looked at most companies' requirements, these were preferred. Now it's required? Oh you don't have a AAA title shipped. Good luck getting in the industry.
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Halo |OT14| They call it Halo
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I swear these numbers only go up. Last time I looked at most companies' requirements, these were preferred. Now it's required? Oh you don't have a AAA title shipped. Good luck getting in the industry.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Eh... when you have a company that has an almost open wallet, they're allowed to be as picky as they want.
There's a difference between getting a start in the industry and joining the biggest first team that Xbox has.
Steelyuhas
Member
Yeah it's a product of the times, I don't fault the game for that. I compare the gameplay design and how it actually plays as intended.
Stopped right there, snowball's chance in hell.
Yeah if you want to be a designer/engineer for a game developer, you pretty much have to cut your teeth for a "lesser" developer for a lack of a better word in order to get the chance to work for one of the developers making the biggest and best AAA games.
Obviously there are exceptions, we even meet a 343 guy at PAX (a software engineer) that starting work there on Halo 4 straight out of college.
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And now, because HaloGAF will find this supremely entertaining, Bungie even releases patch notes for their website.
User 73706
Banned
Well, it is an asym...
If they took out all the asymmetric maps from the CTF playlist, there would only be Adrift and Harvest left. It's a strange problem to have when they should know what gametypes they're developing maps for.
CTF is just not good, that's what happens when you do things just for the sake of change. They probably ran into the issues of people getting spoints for picking up the flag over and over again but instead of solving that dilemma someone thought it would be cool to hold the flag and the bastard idea was born.
Looks coolnew page
So my friend over at SomethingAwful.com created this website: http://halocustoms.com/, which is a pretty useful place to arrange custom games quickly or plan sessions ahead of time with like-minded players. It has a small user base since it was just released, but has already shown to do exactly what it's intended for pretty well. My friend had at least one map put into MM for Halo: Reach and is an active member of Forge Hub and other nerd webpages.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QkSa...layer_embedded
xxjuicesxx
Member
Yea I hope they reverse those god awful CTF changes in the next Halo.
Never. No company will ever admit it was wrong.
If not, there's always Halo 6.
Bungie came down hard on themselves for Halo 2--to the point that I think they treated some of their successes as failures (gimping the Arbiter/Covenant storyline in Halo 3.)
Time certainly gives people space to talk more honestly about things. But game development is certainly a hard business to be honest.
BlueScrote
Member
It was really refreshing to hear those stories. I absolutely love honest developer post mortems.
Saber did a pretty good one in GD for Anniversary. Unsurprisingly, the bad lip sync was a result of motion capturing without properly reviewing the data. Pretty much screwed the pooch on that one, which was a shame--goofy Halo aside most of the revised visuals were pretty top-notch.
Reagan's BR
Banned
My wish list for Halo 5:
-Fun
-Fun
I actually really like the new CTF. I think the old style is better but this is still really good.
Poker Face
Member
I wonder if there will be a Halo game bundled with the new Xbox. Not Halo 5, but a spinoff game like ODST or Reach.
You gamers are so entitled.
I would not consider Reach a spin off. Also I doubt it the earliest I think we will see a new Halo game on the new Xbox will be in 2014 with (hopefully) Halo 2 HD and then the year after that have Halo 5.
xxjuicesxx
Member
So you like the old way better, you should instead phrase your post like this:
"I like the old way better than the new way"
To sound more salty. Based off your limited amount of CTF games, cause lets be honest who the hell plays CTF? Its bad compared to what it used to be...
5v5...who is the ad wizard who came up with that one...that goes for all objective. Objective is 4v4, every Halo player knows that.
I like it too, although I would have rather had the carrier dedicated to holding the flag (and given full movement options) instead of pulling a magnum out of the aether.
MrGreencastle
Member
Yeah, I mean Halo 3 came out almost 2 years after the Xbox 360 launched. If the console launch is this year, then a Halo 2 HD in 2014 and Halo 5 in 2015 makes sense. I wonder if there will be a Halo title developed for the NextBox launch... Also, will Halo 5 be on the 360 as well? Halo 4 was announced as the start of a trilogy for Xbox 360. I think Microsoft might have plans to sustain with the 360 for awhile as well.
I'll put it this way. It's not as good as Halo 3 and earlier. But it's better than Halo Reach. Talking stock matchmaking gametypes here, not MLG.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Objective used to be a little more methodical. Like finding all their players, getting them 3-4 man down and then compromising their field of play and taking their objective followed up by a strategic setup to pull the objective or secure a bomb plant.
Meanwhile on top of that they have respawn timers not working properly, with sprinters/jetpackers able to get to where they need to get to quickly, it becomes a much more chaotic frantic mess of who gets better location spawnage.
We have several examples of teams who all went neg while our team went completely positive but were able to hold the ball more...because respawn timer stunk, and they got better spawns. Even though we were clearly the superior team.
Also spawn sides are still funky. Which doesn't allow much team suppression and tactical positioning.
Still MLG is the only people to correctly understand the weighting of slaying in objective gametypes, if Bungie/343 had it their way everyone would be rushing Oddball in Sword Base for all of eternity only for us to get all those delicious kills.
People give MLG a lot of shit, but they know their way around objective maps and gametypes.
BlueScrote
Member
Wait what?
User 73706
Banned
Next CTF should allow flag dropping with the switch weapons button and slow people down to previous games' carrier speeds. But you also get a Halo CE pistol with slightly nerfed range in solid gold.
Every character in ODST was terrible. Writing and characterization low point of the series by a landslide.
BlueScrote
Member
I'd like to politely disagree on that.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
On the objective discussion...
Over all Halo games I've never moved to play the MLG settings when discussing objective specifically. I understand many of you prefer that style of play and I fully understand the teamwork and practice involved for MLG objective.
Do I want to play that when I get on matchmaking? No
Why?
1. I don't want to organise my regular team of 4 or 5 players every time I play. I always compete to win but I'm not into having the same strategies and/or teammates every game I play.
2. I don't want the same experience every time I play. For me MLG objective is a small selection of maps, gametypes, sandbox and therefore experiences. I like the variety objective has throughout all Halo games. If you look at MLG objective over all the Halo games you'll understand my perspective here of far lesser experience variety.
3. I like vehicles, asymmetrical maps and more from the default sandbox with respect to objective.
I do prefer Halo 2 or 3 objective maps/gametypes/settings over Halo 4 but I've been enjoying CTF in Halo 4 all the same. There is still plenty of timing and skill in there but not as great as the previous objective. I do commend the changes for bringing back population to objective but that could just be the new smell of Halo 4 doing that all the same. Once again playlists provide the segmentation required here, MLG playlist is probably happy with some voting options between objective and slayer where default objective is pure all votes point to objective. Another point of difference I prefer default for.
Over all Halo games I've never moved to play the MLG settings when discussing objective specifically. I understand many of you prefer that style of play and I fully understand the teamwork and practice involved for MLG objective.
Do I want to play that when I get on matchmaking? No
Why?
1. I don't want to organise my regular team of 4 or 5 players every time I play. I always compete to win but I'm not into having the same strategies and/or teammates every game I play.
2. I don't want the same experience every time I play. For me MLG objective is a small selection of maps, gametypes, sandbox and therefore experiences. I like the variety objective has throughout all Halo games. If you look at MLG objective over all the Halo games you'll understand my perspective here of far lesser experience variety.
3. I like vehicles, asymmetrical maps and more from the default sandbox with respect to objective.
I do prefer Halo 2 or 3 objective maps/gametypes/settings over Halo 4 but I've been enjoying CTF in Halo 4 all the same. There is still plenty of timing and skill in there but not as great as the previous objective. I do commend the changes for bringing back population to objective but that could just be the new smell of Halo 4 doing that all the same. Once again playlists provide the segmentation required here, MLG playlist is probably happy with some voting options between objective and slayer where default objective is pure all votes point to objective. Another point of difference I prefer default for.
User 73706
Banned
MrGreencastle
Member
That's great and all, and I tend to agree, but from the MLG guys perspective, they have nothing to play in matchmaking. A whole community relegated to the custom game lobby that for some reason no one has thought of including the courtesy of a browser. That sucks, even if you don't like that play style. A lot of people are just bored more than anything, because their game isn't in Halo 4. And they happen to be the more hardcore multiplayer fans, and so are also often the most vocal. Hell, my two favourite gametype are still not in yet, but are coming later, and I generally have never enjoyed 4v4 Halo, so I'm in the same camp of boredom and disappointment until that stuff is added - but the team could have most definitely operated quicker and more transparently. I choose to blame it on Halo 4 being their first title, and there being hiccups, but I seriously hope they can get on top of this stuff with reckless abandon in the future. I'll play more then, gametypes allowing (Doubles and BTB Skirmish).
xxjuicesxx
Member
Guys snip his post please I really dont want to see it.
But lemme guess it says something like:
"I know people liek MLG but I like normal objective and vehicles so let me play that, also people are playing objective again cause 343 saved it (completely ignoring the fact that the objective playlists are practically dead)"
But lemme guess it says something like:
"I know people liek MLG but I like normal objective and vehicles so let me play that, also people are playing objective again cause 343 saved it (completely ignoring the fact that the objective playlists are practically dead)"
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
I completely agree they deserve a playlist and their settings in matchmaking. I'm still gob smacked at the Forge and classic settings. Fuck I want assault back bad as well as the flag indicator removed from the top of my head.
Nah, out-of-the-box DMR start (I think that's fair, if not totally vanilla) Reach CTF on Zealot or Asylum beats any of the combinations in H4 CTF matchmaking.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Never saw MLG do:
Coagulation 2 or flag/bomb
Relic 1 flag/bomb
High ground 1 flag/bomb
Ivory tower 1 flag/bomb
Zanzibar 1 flag/1bomb
Hang Em High 1 flag/bomb
Sidewinder 2 flag/bomb
Burial Mounds 1 flag/bomb
Headlong 1 flag/bomb
Waterworks anything
Containment anything
Turf 1 flag/bomb
Terminal 1 flag/bomb
Valhalla 2 flag/bomb or 1 flag/bomb
Ghost town 1 flag/bomb
Longshore 1 flag/bomb
Boneyard
Boardwalk
Tempest
Powerhouse
Never seen MLG do a flag run in a hog
You get the point, there is plenty about objective that is great and non-MLG. Fine many of you love MLG objective, be my guest and play it, I totally agree is has the demand to warrant a playlist. Most likely as I stated before a playlist that has voting for slayer/objective.
I'd like to stick to default objective thanks.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Give me some of what you're smoking please.