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Halo: Reach 1st DLC Announced - Noble Map Pack - 11/30/2010
- Thread starter Plywood
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Dani said:
Do you think this because Bungie/Microsoft want to see Halo 3 continue to sell?
Personally I think that they could convert Halo 3 maps over to Halo Reach without any additional artwork. Massage the map data into whatever format Halo Reach needs, charge us for content we already paid for in Halo 3, and presto. Instant money.
Diablohead
Member
That brownish looking cave with the boogers in it? that was more like the most boring and worst looking area in the entire Reach campaignDechaios said:
AwesomeSyrup
Banned
I'd prefer mostly new maps designed for Reach's gameplay. It's quite a bit different from Halo 2/3 and maps like Sanctuary and Ascension don't play very good with the additions to Reach.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Falagard said:
Map fatigue. We've been playing on the Halo 3 maps for years. They may see it that they need to give them a break to build demand for them.
For example, I know many folks that wouldn't want to see Sandtrap, Valhalla, Avalanche or Standoff for quite some time if ever again yet I'd buy them in a heartbeat for Reach if given the chance.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Chrange said:
Your definition if "defending to the death" must be loose.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
My wish is that Bungie would pop out about 20 forge world maps to put into matchmaking...no remakes, just simple yet fun maps. Not to be particularly offensive, but me and my friend made a map in 2 days that I believe plays better than many of the aesthetically pleasing yet otherwise stale maps in mm. Seriously, some of Bungie's maps seem like they have completely disregarded the gameplay mechanics (particularly movement), merely focusing on making things line up visually. I want to sprint between cover, I want to deflect grenades off of angled structures made just for that purpose. I want my actions to feel connected to my surroundings. Take Reflection for example. I know it's a remake and all, but there is just 0 flow to that level. The center area is awful; a random circle of blocks that provide no cover, steps (the sand-garden area) that are too big to properly jump around on, and don't get me started on the upper level. I do apologize for the rant, but I just don't understand how it takes 3 years for the level designers to come up with most of this stuff. All I want is some maps that feel good to maneuver my character through, is that asking too much?
ElRenoRaven
Member
JesseZao said:I think the only thing that would please all of us, would be to have a Halo 1&2 'HD' Collection. That way we could continue to play those beloved maps without trying to fit them into Reach. Sounds like a good first project 343i
Hell I'd buy that in a heartbeat. I've said that time and time again.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
PsychoRaven said:
Agree on some of those. I would love to see Turf/Terminal, they would work together well in one map, but with a forge variant separating them into different maps. Take down the border for one giant awesome BTB/Invasion map? That would a be a good way to get 2 remakes and a new map in one map alone. But...I dont think it would ever happen. =/
That said, I cant wait for new Maps.. I agree, the price is sad, but its been like that for every halo 3 map pack. Plus, new forgeable maps are always welcomed.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Was waiting for this. Glad to see more bigger maps here because BTB is sorely lacking in good ones. Day one for me, especially since I'll probably have gotten 800 free points from that bing thing until then. I've gotten 400 so far, but I keep forgetting about it.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Magic 8 ball says "All signs point to sarcasm".Trickster said:
Well I'm glad we're getting new maps, but I did feel ripped off with the awful selection that shipped with the disc.
RE: Halo 2 maps
I'm a little sad that Waterworks or Headlong didn't make it in to this first pack. Without a doubt Halo 2 had the best maps of the series, though I think some of the smaller ones won't work as well in Reach as they did in 2. But the BTB ones can be good for BTB or Invasion.
RE: Halo 3 maps
Not as terrible as the Reach selection, but not really needed at this point (or ever)
RE: Modern Warfare
Depending on how you value old maps, MW2 DLC either comes out as a bit cheaper or a bit more expensive per map. The big difference though is that they don't lock you out of playlists for not buying every DLC like H3 did, if you don't have a map and that map happens to come up, you can just exit the lobby and search again. Plus there was a large selection already on the disc, and most were seperate from the campaign levels.
RE: Halo 2 maps
I'm a little sad that Waterworks or Headlong didn't make it in to this first pack. Without a doubt Halo 2 had the best maps of the series, though I think some of the smaller ones won't work as well in Reach as they did in 2. But the BTB ones can be good for BTB or Invasion.
RE: Halo 3 maps
Not as terrible as the Reach selection, but not really needed at this point (or ever)
RE: Modern Warfare
Depending on how you value old maps, MW2 DLC either comes out as a bit cheaper or a bit more expensive per map. The big difference though is that they don't lock you out of playlists for not buying every DLC like H3 did, if you don't have a map and that map happens to come up, you can just exit the lobby and search again. Plus there was a large selection already on the disc, and most were seperate from the campaign levels.
NullPointer
Member
Hear Hear. Remakes are at best nostalgia trips, and at worst they are imbalanced for Reach and easily broken by AA use.Raide said:I would actually like more new maps that make use of the AA's. Leave the remaking to ForgeGAF.
Jex
Member
No god damned remakes. It's embarrassing enough that they basically placed Blood Gulch into matchmaking, considering how woefully unbalanced it is for Reach's various new mechanics.
Maybe in the final map pack they'll cater to these demands, but Forge is definitely the way to go for those at the moment.
Maybe in the final map pack they'll cater to these demands, but Forge is definitely the way to go for those at the moment.
To be quite honest, I really don't like Forge for remakes. Sure some may play like the old ones, but visual design goes to shit. Forge World is very monotonous. If Bungie (or I guess 343) can create some classics of their own with new DLC maps then great, we won't need remakes. But I'm yet to be impressed with any of the original Reach maps. At least this time they're not forced to make them work in both campaign and matchmaking.
Two BTB maps, though I cannot really tell how large or small they really are. BTB did need more love since Paradiso and Hemorrhage were the only true BTB maps at the current point since they haven't adjusted Spire and Boneyard, yet.
Anchor 9 looks good for a quality Team Slayer and Rumble Pit contest. Could prove me wrong. I do wish for more 4v4 symmetrical maps, however, as that's where Reach is mostly lacking.
Plus Halo 3 maps overall were trash. Getting 5 or so maps out of 24 which I considered above average isn't something to bloat about.
Anchor 9 looks good for a quality Team Slayer and Rumble Pit contest. Could prove me wrong. I do wish for more 4v4 symmetrical maps, however, as that's where Reach is mostly lacking.
We had no sense in getting a large remake from Halo 3. The favorite from that game in BTB was Valhalla, another two-sided map where its best played in a symmetrical environment. Reach already has two of those and lacks solid 1-sided maps for BTB. That's where the focus, I hope, lies. As I said before, as it looks, both of these are for your 1-sided flavor, which is a very good thing.
Plus Halo 3 maps overall were trash. Getting 5 or so maps out of 24 which I considered above average isn't something to bloat about.
The Librarian
Banned
Kibbles said:
Mr. Enigma
Member
I'm really saddened and disheartened at people's willingness to bend over to pay $10 for 3 maps.
I don't know if this has been mentioned in this thread yet, but Reach is seriously lacking in good 4v4 maps. The vast majority of people prefer to play 4v4 matches, it's a minority that play Big Team Battle, so I don't understand why they continue to cater to that crowd.
Halo: Reach is in dire need of a couple more decent competitive maps.
Halo: Reach is in dire need of a couple more decent competitive maps.
AnEternalEnigma said:
Depressing sod. Choose something worthwhile to be emo about please. I'm saddened and disheartened about the 5 children with cancer I met today.
Maps look beautiful. Will be nice to have a bit more big team variety. A bit disappointed that the expanded Forge pallete will be essentially an extension of Forge World. We have enough daytime outdoor forerunner stuff.
Also wish it was coming a bit sooner. I know it's close to release but this game needs maps fast. Or at least some community implementation. Have they even detailed how that is going to work, aside from their new Forge contest? Can't wait to get some Invasion variants. I've played some amazing custom Invasion maps.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
2 of the 3 look interesting to me. Unfortunately I don't think I can convince myself to pay 10 bucks for it because of those 2.
I'll wait...
edit: If the videos of the docking bay look awesome then I may bite. I need to see how the low grav pans out.
I'll wait...
edit: If the videos of the docking bay look awesome then I may bite. I need to see how the low grav pans out.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Sho_Nuff82 said:
This is the "Please don't trade it in for Black Ops!!" strategy.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Presco said:
There's why the map price bothers me. This game has no maps and they're going to charge us 1/6 of the retail price to add just three more.
Also, nice job invoking kids with cancer as a way to protest an opinion you don't agree with. You sound like a very classy individual.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
yes.Sir Fragula said:
NullPointer
Member
Read the thread - its not going to work like Halo 3.Mr. B said:
Yes it would be better if they had 5 maps for $10 but I've been playing a lot and having a good time so I'm ok with paying $10. I'm the kind of guy that puts the most hours into only my favorite games. If there is dlc for a game I'm putting a lot of time into, I'll pay up, especially since Halo maps have a lot of value to me because you can play many different game types on each. I see myself playing Halo for many more months, so spending $10 is not a problem. If it was $10 a map I wouldn't be interested but this is fairly reasonable.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
NullPointer said:
is it like mw2s's system?
NullPointer
Member
Now sure what MW2's system is. I bailed out of that game once the DLC hit.Foxy Fox 39 said:
But here is what we have to go on so far:
urk said: