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Hillary Clinton Selects Tim Kaine As VP
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Expect more of this. Most likely he is going to give an aside during the convention in spanish.
RustyNails
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That's horrible.
Look at this guy talkin funny words.
I agree with your sentiments, but I disagree with the notion that people should grow thicker skin and "grow up." I will completely admit that Hillary Clinton is far from my preferable candidate, and I was completely on the fence about voting for her or voting for third party up until today. However, further research and in-depth, civil conversations between friends and family is what ultimately led me down the realization that the only viable option is for Hillary to win in November. Especially since I live in a swing state (Ohio).
The difference is, if the people I talked to about it would have come at me with this elitist sense of whatever -and questioned my intelligence, my will to fight for progressive causes, and the like, that has happened with other posters here- I would have been completely disinterested and tuned them out. That's what people tend to do when others are attacking them and dogpiling on them. Yes, it's just randos on the internet. And yes, that shouldn't persuade someone to vote one way or other. However, unless they are putting on some big, bad persona on the internet, that's pretty indicative of how they're speaking to others in their personal life.
I hope that all of you that are using this as an opportunity to attack everyone on the fence, that instead you choose to approach them in a way that doesn't automatically have them tune you out. Trump supporters use these tactics and it's abhorrent, but doing the same thing makes it somehow better because it's for a better cause? Come on. You guys are better than that. We are the party of compassion and acceptance, so start acting like it and speaking in that manner.
Are you implying that the average white man isn't empathetic towards other people?
QuantumZebra
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Question to Americans what exactly are your reputable television news stations because CNN while seemingly not being as bad as Fox is pretty fucking bad if it allows some outright xenophic trash like this on air.
bangbang i'm a timpani
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lol what? shes barely beating a raist lunatic who has no campaign infrastructure
Bruce Springsteen
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But not Gears of War 2 level good
Not only is he a white guy, but he's a white guy who believes in Jesus (he was a missionary) and is technically anti-abortion.
Technically.
Other non-white people?
The majority of them vote Republican so... Do with that what you will.
Him and Biden basically have the same stance on the issue, I imagine he's gotta find a way to reword Biden's answer on abortion for the VP debate.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Better speaker than Hillary.
Relates awfully well to regular people.
Fights for minorities and actually gets shit done.
Champion of gun control.
Very impressive human being.
Relates awfully well to regular people.
Fights for minorities and actually gets shit done.
Champion of gun control.
Very impressive human being.
QuantumZebra
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Racism, ignorance, sexism, and populism run deep in the U.S.
I think that's largely ignoring how bipartisan that nation has become. Republicans and Democrats tend to vote their parties regardless of who is running. If Trump couldn't care away Republicans, nobody will.
As a White man, I tend to agree. While I may not be like that, nearly every White man I know is. In particular, people of other races.
A Link to the Past
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I am excited
You Are Viewtiful
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Kaine's a Democrat though, so the reasoning doesn't apply. I would prefer a more diverse ticket, but to say Kaine's a bad pick because he's white is something else. I hope people get over it, the ticket is already historic as it is.
Bruce Springsteen
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An expected but solid pick. My heart wanted something exciting to mix it up, but this was the smarter route. Take no chances against Trump. Kaine seems like a straight up good dude too, so no complaints.That's a fucked up, blanket statement to make.
I can understand some of the sentiment. In the year 2016, we have 4 White people on the ticket. This country is moving away from the White majority so it is frustrating that minorities aren't better represented here. That being said, Clinton will be the first woman president and that's never happened either.
I think Kaine is a fine pick. I'm not going to say that there isn't a minority leader in politics that couldn't have done his job, but, I know Clinton has her reasons.
I think Kaine is a fine pick. I'm not going to say that there isn't a minority leader in politics that couldn't have done his job, but, I know Clinton has her reasons.
The person I'm responding to was asking if the poster they were responding to was implying that the average white male was unempathetic towards minorities because they were pointing out that Kaine's empathy is different from what was expected.
My response was that the majority of white males vote Republican, meaning that yes, this is the case.
RPGCrazied
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Didn't know much about Tim, but after hearing him speak, my concerns are laid to rest. I feel very comfortable voting for this ticket.
if you have to pick between Fox News, CNN, or MSNBC, go with MSNBC. Rachel Maddow alone makes the channel preferable.
Bruce Springsteen
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It's just based on my own experience.... as a minority in this country
Lord Frieza
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MSNBC is probably the best, for my money, but even they aren't particularly good. It's starling how bad American news media is. I've basically stopped watching/subing to any of them and stick with Al Jazeera.
Barely? As of now, she has a pretty healthy lead on Trump based on polls, both nationally and demographically. The Diabloing thread rubbing off on you, maybe?
GAF and most Americans like to trash the media as a whole, but they completely forget there are so many fantastic options that they refuse to tune into.
Aaronology
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Again, the majority of white males vote Republican.
For a generalization, it's backed pretty strongly by fact.
A lot of good people are Republicans too. Don't make the mistake of thinking every Republican is now supporting Trump. To even suggest that every single white Republican is not empathetic to minorities is disgusting.
Generic Power Ranger
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Strongly against animal rights ? Did i read that right. What.
Man must have caught one too many pidgeys and got sent over the edge !
Man must have caught one too many pidgeys and got sent over the edge !
RPGCrazied
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Not this white male.
Aaronology
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They are not empathetic enough to not back a party that is actively antagonistic towards minorities. So...
Look at the Republican platform.
If you vote for a party with that as their platform, you're not an empathetic person, no matter what you like to think of yourself. Fact.
Right. Hence my responding in the affirmative that the average white male (in America at least) is unempathetic. Not all.
That's not what was said. A lot are, I would even argue most, as in the majority. Just look at how we vote. It's disgusting. But no, not everybody. I'm not, a lot of GAFers aren't, millions aren't, but millions are.
And what about Republicans or those that lean Republican that end up voting for Clinton/Kaine? Or the people who will abstain from voting because for whatever reason they don't want Clinton/Kaine elected?
RPGCrazied
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They still voted or assholes like Romney and probably would have voted for Ted Cruz.
Good thing my exact words were "most white males vote Republican" and "If you vote for a party with that platform" then, isn't it?
Mind, not voting for Trump doesn't mean they're not voting for Republican Governors and Congressmen who support the same platform.
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