Anton Sugar
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Almost forgot about that. Our audience gasped, haha.
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Jurassic World |SPOILER THREAD| Lifting Up the Dinosaur's Skirts
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Almost forgot about that. Our audience gasped, haha.
Hoskins is the head of Security for Jurassic World and the Head of InGen Security. Once Masrani bit it would assume chain of command in a crisis would likely lead to him in charge especially since with his weasel ways he ran to the board of directors to usurp power.
Masrani was another Hammond in the sense he was blinded by his vision. Hoskin makes the comment to Owen about militarization and how Masrani has so much money invested all over the place he does not even know what he is funding or owns.
Wu and Hoskins are basically doing all kinds of sneaky shit behind the scenes with Masrani funding it all unaware
Anton Sugar
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Seriously, though: why would the raptor and the rex fight each other? What would possibly motivate them to? They're not natural enemies or anything like that. They're just two predators, and there is no reason for them to fight.
Calcium
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Off topic, but I saw some behavior in my theater that I've never seen before. A family snuck a giant plastic bag in and emptied the tub of popcorn into it and went back for refills. They must have done this 5-6 times before the movie started. It was ridiculous.
I disagree with this because it is kind of stepping on the ending of the first movie. The two would absolutely fight, but given that they both just got knocked around by Indominus they decided against it.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Why did Wu not tell Masrani what the I-Rex was made of? I thought he was the CEO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTWo9oLJOWk
Calcium
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Masrani wouldn't have agreed with the level of genetic manipulation Wu was achieving. Better to keep it a secret so he could have his fun (plus whatever deal he had with Hoskins).
brianmcdoogle
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Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Masrani specifically asked him and Wu said something like "I'm not allowed to tell you". Seemed strange since Masrani owns everything.
Also - Hoskins was clearly consulting with Wu - did he know that the I-Rex was part raptor? It's never really made clear. If he does know that then it makes his plan to send the Raptors against it even dumber.
Anton Sugar
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I don't know if using the deus ex machina from Jurassic Park is a good way to establish their relationship, though. As awesome as that sequence is, it's been widely criticized for how out of the blue it is.
I think TLW is a better example, maybe. Raptors and Rex naturally stay in completely separate parts of the island because they don't want to compete with each other. They're not at war.
Regardless, I just don't see any reason why two beaten-down, injured predators would want to fight. To me, that would feel contrived.
It seems based on Hoskins monologue at the end that Wu and Him made the Indominus solely for Military application. The Park was a good cover for their Test Subject. Masrani was Hammond 2.0 in the sense he was in it for the awe and inspiring nature of the Dinosaurs. Everything Wu and Hoskins was doing would never have been approved.
Hoskins has a big smile on his face while the Indominus is out wrecking havoc. So one could begin to assume that perhaps this all going down plays directly into a plan he had. He very likely has some very interested buyers into militarized Dinosaurs. I mean even Wu at the end is getting concerned as he's put into a Helicopter wondering what's going on and is their deal still in tact.
Calcium
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Not sure why he'd say he wasn't allowed to tell Masrani. As for Hoskins knowing about the raptor DNA in the Indominus I'd say that is a certainty. He had a whole spiel about the Indominus right before one of the raptors was kind enough to remove him.
I told my wife that she probably didn't even die right away, given she wasn't directly bitten by the mosasaur(sp). She definitely got a raw deal. Haha
brianmcdoogle
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I don't think it's fair to assume the wrecking of the park was part of some intricate grand-scheme plan, but rather him just seeing an opportunity and seizing upon it. Honestly, the movie spells out everything in such obvious ways that if they didn't explicitly have him say he planned it all from the beginning, there's no reason to suspect it. He simply saw the chaos, the opportunity, and took it.
I think you need to stay within the already established bounds of the films if you're going to critique the already silly scene of dinosaurs, brought back to life by man, fighting one another. Sure, they might want to stay separated a la TLW (I'll take your word on this since I haven't seen that movie in well over a decade) but we know explicitly that when mixed, they fight and fight to the death. Nevertheless, its a tiny detail in a mess of a scene anyway.
I thought it was copyright, trade secrets, or legal liability that was preventing him from telling about the DNA cocktail because he sure acted as if he "couldn't" say, rather than simply not "wanting" to say.
And, maybe Hoskins thought once Owen discovered Indominous was part raptor, he would be able to tame it and ride on its back to Iran to kill ISIS or something.
Calcium
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Another thing that really bothered me was several instances of characters not seeing something right in front of them until the camera sees it. The two that stuck out were the kids in the Gyrosphere asking "Where are all the dinosaurs?" then the camera turns to show them in an open plain with like a dozen dinosaurs around them. Then the two guards (gate guards the kids drove to in the old jeep) that didn't see all the flying dinosaurs coming toward them until the camera panned up. You didn't see those? Really?
Anton Sugar
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I don't understand the confusion over this scene. It didn't seem like the dinos were all around them--felt more like they rounded a corner into an area where they were all grazing. Pretty sure the gyrosphere was moving that whole time.
Calcium
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They were in an open field. There is no way they didn't see the dinosaurs in the distance. In order for the dialogue to make sense they would have had to turn a corner or something.
Ultimadrago
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My inner child got a dino-gasm from the final battle.
BrightLightLava
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Chris Pratt is incredibly charismatic. That's basically undeniable. He's charming in Parks and Rec, he's charming in Guardians of the Galaxy, he's charming in The Lego Movie, and there's every indication that he's charming in real life. So what happened here? Was the the dialogue or the directing or the editing? How did they make him so awkward and stilted?
Eh, anyway. It was about what I was expecting. Not amazing, not enough wonder. But it was fine. Cool ending. Some people are acting like the movie kicked their dog.
Eh, anyway. It was about what I was expecting. Not amazing, not enough wonder. But it was fine. Cool ending. Some people are acting like the movie kicked their dog.
Calcium
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I thought Pratt was fine. He did the best he could with the material he had. So did Bryce, really. I've seen complaints about both performances, but I thought they were likable enough.
I think the movie had just the right amount of wonder. They were never going to match the original in that department, so it's probably good that they didn't try to. Gray was in awe and genuinely excited to see everything and his brother (Don't remember his name. Sad.) wasn't impressed. The kids kind of worked in that regard, supporting the films criticism of audiences today.
The dying Apatasaurus had me close to tears, but seeing that little baby Trike picked up and dropped I think I even said "no not the babies!!" out loud. Poor thing got flipped onto its back with its little legs flailing around. That one kid did NOT want to leave though. Don't blame him. I would want to ride one of those things so bad.
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I liked Pratt but I just feel he doesn't really suit being an authority figure well. Never really conveyed the emergency of the situation when it first broke out and didnt really seem that angry at the fuck up
BrightLightLava
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One of the flying dinosaurs looked like the rest, but had basically a tyrannosaurus head. Is that a known dinosaur? It looked like those photoshopped mashups of animals.
Calcium
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That's a Dimorphodon. It's real.
Surprised how not awful this was. Thought going by the trailers it'd stink but ended up being a very watchable film.
Edit - Also, I knew I spotted his face on the desk
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369610/trivia?item=tr2514075
Edit - Also, I knew I spotted his face on the desk
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369610/trivia?item=tr2514075
BrightLightLava
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Nothing can compare to the magic of the first film. Nonetheless, Jurassic World was the first JP sequel that did not disappoint me. It's far from perfect, but I enjoyed it thoroughly. I could have done without the annoying children. But seemingly every Jurassic Park movie must have a child in danger; even if the premise is patently stupid, Lost World. They weren't as annoying as the children from 2 and 3, thankfully. The tactical raptor squad met my expectations. And the T-Rex rightfully reigns supreme. I nearly threw my pop at the screen when it seemed they had fed the T-Rex to the I-Rex. But she made an improbable comeback! The thought of a repeat of JP 3 was nauseous. I hope the fifth movie shows the T-Rex moving to the 2nd island to massacre the Spinosaurus. I want the rematch. But the T-Rex will win this time.
So...that raptor used the T-Rex as a noble steed at one point right? Or were my eyes messing with me?
And John Williams is a god. Movie reminded me of such.
And John Williams is a god. Movie reminded me of such.
HP_Wuvcraft
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So, bets on JW2? I don't think they'll go full Dino Commandos.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Can't wait to see what brilliantly intelligent character they cook up to play the role of "the last guy who tried this literally got eaten but I'm sure I'll be alright"
Razgriz-Specter
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Yeah Rex was injured, while the Raptor lost its pack and was alone.
Had no problem with it.
Wu escaped with the embryos. There's going to be a sequel. My bet is that Malcolm was actually the mastermind behind the experiments. He's always been an agent of chaos.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Do they ever explain how they control the population now? Are all the dinos still female? Wu mentions that they still use frog DNA.
They're all still female.
Yep, same. favourite scenes"Raptors got a new alpha" and "open paddock 9" had me and my friends all
Mr Wu seeming evil / like an ass was weird. Didn't get that impression of him from the first movie
DrForester
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Movie needed an Avengers 1 after credits sequence with Grant, Ellie, Malcolm and the kids watching the news and all say "Those fucking idiots"
Yesss! I need some kinda reaction from the original group, even if it's just that.
TheAbsolution
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Damn, that would've been great.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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I kinda wished Malcolm was visiting the park for the first time during the movie or something. Something was missing without him laying around pointing out how everyone that runs the park is an idiot for the whole movie. The computer guy kinda had that role though.
Awh man, just got back from seeing this. It was definitely a very good movie. Just like Pratt, I also was bonding with those raptors, which explains why I got like internally pissed off during the raptor heel turn scene when Pratt, and one of his raptor children were in a bonding stare off sort of situation then all of a sudden a fucking rocket launcher ruined that moment. I gave that moment alone 5 sins.
Poor raptor children
I know right? I'm glad the evil, hefty dude (Forgot his name) got what he deserved.
CreepingFear
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I absolutely teared up and was transported to my childhood when the T-rex was let out of his Paddock. I rank Jurassic World above Lost World and Jurassic Park 3. Nothing can touch the original. I'm hoping SW7 will give me similar moments. I know "Chewie, were home" did the same for me.
BigJonsson
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Loved all the callbacks to JP1
Chris Pratt needs to be the next coach of the Toronto Raptors
Product placement was hilarious and made total sense
Samsung and Verizon on the island and spotty cell phone coverage was kinda funny
Are they ever going to find the Barbasol can filled with embryos that Nedry lost?
Chris Pratt needs to be the next coach of the Toronto Raptors
Product placement was hilarious and made total sense
Samsung and Verizon on the island and spotty cell phone coverage was kinda funny
Are they ever going to find the Barbasol can filled with embryos that Nedry lost?
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