Lets just do everything
this will only costs 2799$ to print at Kinko's
Lets just do everything
Cool.
As with many things, White was already there implicitly. It's the sum of all the other colors.
Developed at an ad agency. That's probably the biggest thing to me.
Poor Gilbert Baker.
White on top and black on the bottom? Yeah that might go over so well.
I thought the rainbow of colors meant inclusion of everybody already?
I don't like it. The old flag is so iconic and integrated in our community and this will only further ostracize POC from the LGBT community. Do more to make POC feel welcome in the community instead of adding brown and black to a flag
In any event it's a good way to start the arguments. So good work ad agency?
By that logic wasn't brown in there already, too? I've never been great with colors, but I'm pretty sure some combination of the others will give you brown.
Okay, but if that is the logic than more than one particular "color" is missing.
I know this comment will be unpopular and Eurogaf here, but the logic should be logic.
The rainbow flag already represented every human being, regardless of color, sex, or sexual orientation. Changing it feels like going against the spirit of the flag and movement.
Colored people should feel just as included in the original flag as anyone else, without needing to adapt it.
Surely we can all agree this is a good flag
Yes but the rest of the rainbow sorta represents white because white light is just all the colors combined
So even in electromagnetic radiation white people can't recognize they are represented everywhere
Black hole, swallowing everything?
About Damn time black got added
Looks really bad tbh, it's not even a rainbow now
Also, isn't the rainbow supposed to represent diversity in the first place eitherway and not litterally have the colors represent people?
No, it doesn't make sense at all actually.
I'll preface this by saying I'm a brown, gay man. There is much to be said about how people of color are treated in the LGBT community. That is, not particularly well; there is a clear higharchy: whites at the top, blacks at the bottom and everyone else in between. I do believe this needs to be tackled, and that it often gets swept under the rug.
I do not like this new flag however. In fact, I might just actively hate it. The first reason is a bit shallow: its ugly. You have the rainbow.... and then black and brown. It doesn't fit and it doesn't really look nice.
The second, more important reason is that the pride flag does not explicitly include ethnicites and thats the point. Its supposed to be a sign of welcome for everyone. This betrays that completely. By adding black and brown, they are taking away from that underlying theme.
What about Asians (Which itself is a group of a wide range of unique cultures) ? What about Latinos? First Nations? Shouldn't they get representation here too? Thats the problem this flag introduces, and its a problem the original avoids by design. The original flag implicitly includes everyone by explicitly including no one. This flag explicitly includes only two groups and therefore explicitly excludes everyone who doesn't get their own color. I see this as leading to quite the slippery slope where everyone else needs their own color on one flag and suddenly we have just as many colors as we have in the LGBT*.... acronym (which is to say, a lot).
Different ethnic groups are not supposed to have their own color on the flag because it betrays the point of the flag, which is to unify. This divides. This reminds us how fractured the LGBT community is. Now, maybe to some thats a good thing. It shows people how far we have to go. But that turns it into a symbol of negativity, wheres its supposed to by a symbol of happiness and well, pride.
This. It feels like scraps. Like "Ok, sure if you insist, you can have your own special place on the flag, separate from the rest of us"
Looks really bad tbh, it's not even a rainbow now
Also, isn't the rainbow supposed to represent diversity in the first place eitherway and not litterally have the colors represent people?
Whoa there, buddy!
My apologies, I am not American or a native English speaker, my apologies, I guess it should be people of color, then? Mea culpa.
My apologies, I am not American or a native English speaker, my apologies, I guess it should be people of color, then? Mea culpa.
If it's a rainbow flag, it should technically be possible to put only white on the flag, but black should not be on there. It's a silly argument anyhow. It's a flag, color it however the fuck you want.Technically black should be the only colour on the flag, since it is made up of every pigment.
In America, black people are just called black. People of color kind of has a bit of negative history, I think. It's not the biggest deal.
Anyways, you didn't know better, no harm no foul. I had to be corrected a few times as well.
Nah, I was just being sarcastic dude.
Seems like they are mixing messages. The original flag includes everyone already. Might be more effective to come up with a brand new symbol to represent their cause.