It's perfectly fine if you enjoyed the show OP, but don't try to convince us the writing was good or even consistent. Even the creators admitted that they were making shit up as they went along:
N: With KLK, the whole staff (with me included) submit ideas, like Hey, this would be cool, and the series layout keeps changing.
pretty much. I didnt finish the show, I was actually loving it at first as a parody of fanservice anime, but then I started thinking "if the parody has as much if not more fanservice than what they are targeting, is it still a parody?" and it bummed me out
Also, if it weren't for Mako, I would feel completely comfortable in calling Kill la Kill a bad show. She's easily the best thing about the whole enterprise.
I'll start off by saying that I enjoyed the show. At first I was very well put off with how over the top it was. However, after a few episodes the show really began to take into its own.
The show contains a very unique tone with a storyline that goes with it. The first half of the show revolves around how Japan is under the control of a Nazi High School dictator(s?) and the fight to freedom. However, midway through the show pulls a 180 and focuses on alien lifeforms. On paper this sounds ridiculously stupid, but the show handles it very well. This is because the characters, world, and plot evolve with the premise. The "bad" guys are not longer the bad guys and many things aren't what they seem. I feel that is sort of what made or break this show, that it stayed consistent all the way through its madness.
Obviously the show isn't perfect. Some of the character design is really dumb, especially when Matoi's main outfit goes into power mode. The explanation they gave for this was incredibly dumb. Mako's monologues also became extremely annoying. However these are things that anime fans can overlook.
However there was anothing thing that bothered me about the show, which is what is in the thread title. As anyone reading this thread knows, the latter half of the show revolves around how clothes are actually alient invaders from outerspace. This results in people often being naked for multiple obvious reasons. Now a lot of this seems very strange, but you eventually get used to it. However, what is odd are many...how do I say this....sexual moments in the show. Most notable the pussy-rub-life-fiber turn off, the cage spanking, the three way titty grabbing, and etc. It all just seemed so...off to me. I mean if I would have randomly started watching the show during those episodes I would have thought the show was some high budget hentai or at least an actual good Ikki Tousen rip-off. I never really got why the mother kept molesting her daughters.
Besides those things I found the show to be great and it is personally in my top 10 list. I'd recommend it
It's perfectly fine if you enjoyed the show OP, but don't try to convince us the writing was good or even consistent. Even the creators admitted that they were making shit up as they went along:
I see this thrown around now and then as if it's a bad thing, when it isn't. A lot of stories are made up as they go, the thing is, manga is released in chapters, so authors can't go back and edit for clarity or anything.
But a lot of novel authors just make shit up and fix the problems in the editing process.
As a style of writing, it's perfectly fine.
That being said, I do not like KLK. Tried a few episodes and had to stop. It made me cringe and feel dirty. I'd rather get caught watching porn than that show; porn is easier to explain.
Ok anime with a great cast and animation, but an absolutely nonsensical plot that would have been at least acceptable if it wasn't padded out with so much pointless bullshit.
It really should have been only half the length it was. I remember watching the first few eps while they were airing and going "wow, this pace is so fast! They must have a LOT planned for this show with how much they're cramming into a single episode!" and for as great as those episodes were, the rest of the series just spiraled into a boring mess. Ragyo and Nui basically became Team Rocket in terms of overstaying their welcome, and the only other particularly interesting thing about the latter half was the money dude who was essentially a filler villain who could have easily been cut out.
This show came out of nowhere to become my #1 favorite anime of all time. I loooooove this show. Just when I thought anime was over for me, Kill La Kill and Attack on Titan came in to save it for me. So yes, Kill La Kill saved anime, for me. After seeing the first episode, I was thinking "I don't know wtf I just watched but I think I liked it." By episode 3 I was like "Holy fuck, yes, all of this! More! MORE! GIVE IT TO ME!"
Loved the characters, loved the story, loved the equal-opportunity fanservice (which is almost always played for laughs rather than sexiness), loved the references and homages to past anime series, and loved how creepy, squicky, and absolutely fabulous Ragyou was. World's Best Mom. And it has the benefit of both the sub and dub being good (with the sub edging out the dub by a small margin. AOA should feel proud of making such a great adaptation of what I and many thought was un-dubable).
This is a show I wish I could watch again for the first time, but I still love it and enjoy it each time I re-watch it.
I'm not Cipher Peon, but I didn't hate Gurren Lagann, but I sure didn't like the first half very much. The 2nd half was ok. I enjoyed Kill La Kill orders of magnitude more.
This show came out of nowhere to become my #1 favorite anime of all time. I loooooove this show. Just when I thought anime was over for me, Kill La Kill and Attack on Titan came in to save it for me. So yes, Kill La Kill saved anime, for me. After seeing the first episode, I was thinking "I don't know wtf I just watched but I think I liked it." By episode 3 I was like "Holy fuck, yes, all of this! More! MORE! GIVE IT TO ME!"
Loved the characters, loved the story, loved the equal-opportunity fanservice (which is almost always played for laughs rather than sexiness), loved the references and homages to past anime series, and loved how creepy, squicky, and absolutely fabulous Ragyou was. World's Best Mom. And it has the benefit of both the sub and dub being good (with the sub edging out the dub by a small margin. AOA should feel proud of making such a great adaptation of what I and many thought was un-dubable).
This is a show I wish I could watch again for the first time, but I still love it and enjoy it each time I re-watch it.
Sure if you want to pretend that's all the show as trying to be, go ahead. You don't try to write a character like Ryuko (poorly that is) though in a show where there are no stakes and no messages trying to be pushed. Just as TTGL was a bombastic, over-the-top show with a message and heart, so was KLK trying to be (they share the same head writer). KLK just failed due to massive rewrites in the middle of the show and what not.
Why do most of the popular/successful anime in recent years go for that crowd, then? Obviously, not every show is like KlK, but there's a reason that anime (and other bits of Japanese media)'s been getting a more negative reputation, lately.
What crowd? What shows? You're going to have to name names.The most recent "mega-popular" shows would be stuff like Attack on Titan and Tokyo Ghoul. One Punch Man is a rising star. Stuff like Yamato 2199, Ping Pong and Space Dandy have all garnered a ton of praise in the the Western fandom. Madoka is only a few years old. Anime with a primarily female audience in mind is booming with stuff like Free! You got bad but still popular shows like SAO and Fate/Stay Night. Older properties are coming back into the limelight with the recent/upcoming people adaptations of Parasyte, Hunter x Hunter and Jojo. NONE of these shows (SAO comes closest I guess) engage in irreverent fanservice in the way KLK does. Like I'm not going to argue there isn't a lot of sexual fansevice across modern (or even older shows as much as people let their nostalgia tell them different) anime but there are a ton of shows that don't use or use it sparingly/sensibly. Spend less time whining (this is directed more at everybody) and more time looking/asking for what you want
"no, but you see, the over the top fanservice, THAT'S THE JOKE"
Yeah. I get it.
It got old, and at a certain point you're not telling the joke, you're just being what you're "laughing at".
Also, if it weren't for Mako, I would feel completely comfortable in calling Kill la Kill a bad show. She's easily the best thing about the whole enterprise.
I'm not Cipher Peon, but I didn't hate Gurren Lagann, but I sure didn't like the first half very much. The 2nd half was ok. I enjoyed Kill La Kill orders of magnitude more.
Also, if it weren't for Mako, I would feel completely comfortable in calling Kill la Kill a bad show. She's easily the best thing about the whole enterprise.
Its cool. Sorry, in retrospect that sounds more flippant than I intended. What I meant to say was, "If you're asking if I just hadn't seen much anime prior to KLK, I have been watching anime for a pretty long time."
Also, if it weren't for Mako, I would feel completely comfortable in calling Kill la Kill a bad show. She's easily the best thing about the whole enterprise.
I'm not Cipher Peon, but I didn't hate Gurren Lagann, but I sure didn't like the first half very much. The 2nd half was ok. I enjoyed Kill La Kill orders of magnitude more.
I see this thrown around now and then as if it's a bad thing, when it isn't. A lot of stories are made up as they go, the thing is, manga is released in chapters, so authors can't go back and edit for clarity or anything.
But a lot of novel authors just make shit up and fix the problems in the editing process.
I liked the first third of the show and I enjoyed Ryuko, but I didn't care for much else. Its pretty mediocre and a disappointing follow up if you consider the team's last show. Gurren certainly wasn't perfect, but it was damn better than this.
How enertaining is the fighting/action for this show? The fan-service doesn't do anything for me, but I heard Kill La Kill had a lot of battle shonen themes.
How enertaining is the fighting/action for this show? The fan-service doesn't do anything for me, but I heard Kill La Kill had a lot of battle shonen themes.
Its....fine. Its certainly heavy on the action, but a lot of it is very poorly animated and others are just boring to watch. The Ryuko vs Satsuki fights are the best of the show though.
How enertaining is the fighting/action for this show? The fan-service doesn't do anything for me, but I heard Kill La Kill had a lot of battle shonen themes.
How enertaining is the fighting/action for this show? The fan-service doesn't do anything for me, but I heard Kill La Kill had a lot of battle shonen themes.
If only there were more anime like KLK. Proves you can still make original work and don't need a big budget to be a success. Also one of the rare ones with it's own standout sense of style and fun. Solid mix of comedy, absurdity, action and hot blooded-ness.
Episodes what was it 17-18-19(?) were some of the finest, most rip-roaringly enjoyable in anime. Had some draggy parts but they were usually only one or two episodes.