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Major Nelson confirms Deal of the Week on XBLM starting Feb 23rd.
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The Faceless Master
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why would they have a sale that excludes almost half of their members?
i mean, i already have gold till 2010 and already have braid, but i will never see the logic in the whole demos gold thing and especially this promotion.
why would someone who has silver spend $30, $50 or even more other countries to save $5 or less?
i mean, i already have gold till 2010 and already have braid, but i will never see the logic in the whole demos gold thing and especially this promotion.
why would someone who has silver spend $30, $50 or even more other countries to save $5 or less?
Confused101
Member
Oh god damn it...
Just bought Braid last night for full price. At least the game is well worth it. Still sucks though. Could've gotten a couple more Rock Band songs with those extra 400 points.
Just bought Braid last night for full price. At least the game is well worth it. Still sucks though. Could've gotten a couple more Rock Band songs with those extra 400 points.
MirageDwarf
Member
Seems pushing people to covert into Live Gold is much more attractive motive for MS.The Faceless Master said:
UpperCaseN
Member
arrrrgh! on the fence about Braid. my head says yes, but my backlog says no! GAF, convince me to buy this game
The Faceless Master
Member
well, from that leaked document, gold has been dropping, and may soon be below 50%, if it's not already, so they're not doing a very good job of that.MirageDwarf said:
Psychotext
Member
Flipped around... why not provide incentives for someone on the fence about a gold membership to jump in or reward people who already have? This is all pretty standard business practice.Proc said:
bigGIRLSblouse
Member
Bamelin said:
Well then that actually could justify having a gold account. I fully understand not wanting to pay but considering all of my monthly bills Xbox Live is at the VERY bottom as far as cost. I really never could understand anyone being upset over 4 bucks a month yet I see what they spend piles of money on in the pick up thread.
I wish it was free also but it really is not that big of a deal. For half the cost of a movie you get a month of live... But we have been down this road before, those that are against it will always be no matter if it was a dollar a month.
How is this any different than you folks getting pissed at Sam's Club members from getting discounts on items?
That's not fair! I'm not a member and I can't buy that 5 gallon tub of nacho cheeeeeeeeseeee. Fuck yooouuuuu!
Heh, actually, my Sam's here lets anyone buy their gas. But as a member, I get it for five cents a gallon cheaper. Hell yeah, perks for being a member are great. You want the discount, sign up.
That's not fair! I'm not a member and I can't buy that 5 gallon tub of nacho cheeeeeeeeseeee. Fuck yooouuuuu!
Heh, actually, my Sam's here lets anyone buy their gas. But as a member, I get it for five cents a gallon cheaper. Hell yeah, perks for being a member are great. You want the discount, sign up.
The problem is that Microsoft has done limited timed promotions in the past that opened up to all members. Now recently they have made these discounts to gold members only. They are simply just taking out features from silver members to increase the value of a gold subscription.
Dimmuxx said:
Go to Xbox.com Marketpalce > My Account > Manage Payment Options > Remove the card you don't want to use
bigGIRLSblouse
Member
Wario64 said:
Is that not how every subscription based system works if it has a number of levels of membership?
PhlivoSong
Member
Firestorm said:
I listened to the podcast and from the language he used, it seems as though every Monday there is going to be a new deal on XBLM going forward. He didn't mention a time frame, and he even made a comment about them having plenty of content to use. So it seems as though every Monday will start a new sale and every Wednesday will have a new arcade game. Pretty good idea.
Hoping this helps Braid sell a few thousand more copies as well.
bigGIRLSblouse said:
It isn't nearly as bad Xbox live silver/gold. Whereas its EVERY demo with XBL its one demo every other month with PSN. Guess what, I played the afro samurai demo last week on PSN but its still locked for me on XBL.
Yes, I would bitch if that changes and they create a new paying tier for PSN or make QORE the exact same as the XBL Gold/Silver Shenanigans.
Psychotext said:
I honestly have no idea how you can post that with a straight face. Lets use a real world example.
I don't play online with XBL. Paying for Gold is a waste of money for me. I would like to get Braid at the cheaper rate, but paying for XBL would actually cost me more since the multiplayer aspect does absolutely nothing for me. Hence I would be screwed either way. Oh well, i'm not buying Braid then.
Hey, thats alright. I'm just voicing a concern. I can live without with all the other games out there, the question is if MS is listening or do they even give a shit. I can take it or leave it really, but just letting them know how I feel about it.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
I agree. Silver members are customers, too.The Faceless Master said:
Makes me love Steam even more. Steam's model is pretty much perfect. Microsoft seems to be the antithesis of Steam when it comes to selling games. I really hope the next console uses Steam. If the PS3 or PS4 and Valve were somehow able to work out a business relation, I think it would be a massive success.
But I will take deals of the week over nothing on XBL. Maybe the success will make more deals happen per week.
PIMPBYBLUD
Member
Wallach said:
You did not make a bad decision...
The Faceless Master
Member
the point Wario64 was making is silver got the demos and promotions, and instead of making gold better, they made silver worse.bigGIRLSblouse said:
gold still offers the same amount of value it always had.
Psychotext
Member
It's really very easy.Ponn01 said:
You think that maybe, possibly this deal isn't really aimed at you? They're trying to give people who might be interested in a gold membership a little extra incentive. You're obviously not interested, you just want Braid cheaper. Obviously it's going to cost you more otherwise the deal doesn't work out from a business perspective does it.Ponn01 said:
I do see the argument made by others that this is actually taking away promotions from silver users... but we don't know that's actually happened yet (they were previously a here and there thing, rather than this which is obviously weekly.).
SapientWolf
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I don't think this is about money. This is about entitlement. Gamers are one of the most spoiled types of consumers. We have enjoyed constant prices and increasing value for years. So gamers are extremely sensitive to any changes that run contrary to this trend.soqquatto said:
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
bryehn said:
dam dam and dam, was actually just going to purchase it until I read that, that really is stupid, I don't play games on-line so why would I need live ? seems unfair to me.
Narpas Sword0
Member
D4Danger said:
tried it on an expired card:
This payment option cannot be removed at this time. Please contact Xbox LIVE Customer Support.
I'm sure they will be happy to auto-bill that expired card though.
Spruce Moose
Member
I was waiting for Braid to drop in price, but because it's Gold only (I don't have the time/lifestyle to play online) I guess my wait continues. 
No sale from me MS, not that you corporate ****s give a shit.
No sale from me MS, not that you corporate ****s give a shit.
How will digital content transfer to the next xbox?
800 points is decent, but I'll be able to get it for 10 dollars on pc ( hopefully steam) soon enough if I wait. Then that PC copy will still work 5 years down the road. Can't say the same for a XBLA purchase moving from one system to the next.
And yes, Live is getting its ass kicked by Steam.
800 points is decent, but I'll be able to get it for 10 dollars on pc ( hopefully steam) soon enough if I wait. Then that PC copy will still work 5 years down the road. Can't say the same for a XBLA purchase moving from one system to the next.
And yes, Live is getting its ass kicked by Steam.
The problem is that there isn't anybody on this proverbial fence. I don't think you'll find anyone in this or any other related thread that's said, "Oh, well I'll sign up for Gold now!". The gap between someone who will pay $50 a year for a service and someone who refuses to do so is pretty huge. Some mild, time-limited discounts aren't going to to change much of anything.Psychotext said:
This will alienate more people than it will entice -- which is ultimately the issue.
Psychotext
Member
Oddly enough I was speaking to two people that renewed their gold accounts (previously expired) this weekend to get the deal. There may not be many on the fence, but there are some.
Psychotext
Member
I wish they'd get around to introducing the gifting of games. There's loads of things I'd buy for people.