Probably. And for the sake of 'optimization'.
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Metro: Last Light PC performance thread
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Probably. And for the sake of 'optimization'.
I will, of course. But the new Metro really doesn't look THAT great and in comparison to the console power it's also running on, 60FPS on a 660ti (if you get rid of some of the bells and whistles) should be just a standard.
Yes, the CM posted in this very thread.
plumpblumpkin
Member
I have to say, the FOV is terrible. I'm already feeling sick just within the first 15mins...
Come on 4A.. Do you even WANT me to play your game? At this rate, I'm just gonna put it aside just as I did 2033 because of something so simple can't be fixed..
Jesus.
Come on 4A.. Do you even WANT me to play your game? At this rate, I'm just gonna put it aside just as I did 2033 because of something so simple can't be fixed..
Jesus.
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Deleted member 17706
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Has there been any official recognition of the shadow flickering/corruption issue from either the developer or AMD?
jim2point0
Banned
No way at all to disable it. You can still use SMAA. You might want to enable a small amount of LumaSharpen to counter FXAA blur.
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Deleted member 17706
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Replying to myself, but I found a statement from AMD.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1391248/metro-last-light-lag-on-ati-cards/10#post_19970228
AMD said:
Hopefully they get this sorted out fast so I can actually play the game without having to switch to DX9 or whatever.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Not seeing a difference, though my lcore is from my mouse gaming driver (g400), not keyboard. Guess the AMD issues override the lcore issues for me.
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Deleted member 17706
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Something interesting I'm seeing in the benchmark:
I have Tesselation set to very high in the benchmark setup program before running the benchmark. My GPU is a 7970, so it definitely supports tesselation. Maybe this is why the shadows and lighting look all messed up in the actual game?
I have Tesselation set to very high in the benchmark setup program before running the benchmark. My GPU is a 7970, so it definitely supports tesselation. Maybe this is why the shadows and lighting look all messed up in the actual game?
That's just a glitch in the benchmark. You are using it.
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Deleted member 17706
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Oh, OK.
In that case, I really don't know what's up. I got 38 average FPS with those settings and experienced no shadow/lighting glitches in the actual benchmark. Wonder why they are present in the actual game. Very frustrating.
angular graphics
Banned
It seems they released it.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/43160/discussions/0/810924774395015649/
New update: ATI patch in distribution
Dictator93
Member
Can any AMD guys also say whether this helps with performance?
I am curious if the performance problem lies with the driver or the devs and their choice of coding.
Really good news, probably in EU we download this tonight when they officially release the game.
angular graphics
Banned
BTW: includes FOV fix!!
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Baconsaurus Rex
Member
It's the 9.6mb update I'm guessing? Will check if it's fixed now.
Alcoholikaust
Member
Steam patch for HDMI cable users is up
not sure if FOV is changed..
not sure if FOV is changed..
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Another benchmark run with the new patch on i7 3770K, 16GB DDR3, 7970 OC got 48.91 Average Framerate.
Last night's pre-patch run gave me 41.43 Average Framerate.
It should again be a little smoother if I had it run twice in a row thanks to the loading hitches in the beginning.
Also note it should be frame limited to 59fps with Afterburner despite the Max. Framerate there shown to be a little higher.
I think it seemed overall a lot smoother, like the part that shows the burning area from the side as people run through it didn't momentarily go down to 20fps.
But at the same time there could be a bigger improvement I think, and the stuttering spikes are still there, even when in the game's main menu and in DX9 as before.
Edit: letting it run twice it almost got the exact same results, just a higher Min. Framerate probably because of missing some stutter in the beginning as I speculated before.
Total Frames: 8367, Total Time: 171.1418 sec
Average Framerate: 48.92
Max. Framerate: 61.56 (Frame: 4196)
Min. Framerate: 13.56 (Frame: 1217)
But wtf at all that spiking, that's what they should prioritize.
Last night's pre-patch run gave me 41.43 Average Framerate.
It should again be a little smoother if I had it run twice in a row thanks to the loading hitches in the beginning.
Also note it should be frame limited to 59fps with Afterburner despite the Max. Framerate there shown to be a little higher.
I think it seemed overall a lot smoother, like the part that shows the burning area from the side as people run through it didn't momentarily go down to 20fps.
But at the same time there could be a bigger improvement I think, and the stuttering spikes are still there, even when in the game's main menu and in DX9 as before.
Edit: letting it run twice it almost got the exact same results, just a higher Min. Framerate probably because of missing some stutter in the beginning as I speculated before.
Total Frames: 8367, Total Time: 171.1418 sec
Average Framerate: 48.92
Max. Framerate: 61.56 (Frame: 4196)
Min. Framerate: 13.56 (Frame: 1217)
But wtf at all that spiking, that's what they should prioritize.
New update: AMD fixes and FOV
A patch has been released on Steam to fix issues with AMD hardware, and improve performance for these cards. It's live now, but might take a few minutes to reach everyone. Restart your client or verify local files if it doesn't download automatically.
It also fixes a shadow visual corruption bug on AMD 7xxx cards, and fixes an issue with the game starting only in 3:1 resolution on some TVs.
In addition, you can now customize the FOV this way:
After starting the game up, the user.cfg will be updated with the r_base_fox attribute. You can find this in %LOCALAPPDATA%\4A Games\Metro LL\. Tweak it at your leisure!
http://steamcommunity.com/app/43160/discussions/0/810924774395015649/
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r_base_fov 69 = 95 HOR FOV I believe. It's the setting I'm using and looks great.
A patch has been released on Steam to fix issues with AMD hardware, and improve performance for these cards. It's live now, but might take a few minutes to reach everyone. Restart your client or verify local files if it doesn't download automatically.
It also fixes a shadow visual corruption bug on AMD 7xxx cards, and fixes an issue with the game starting only in 3:1 resolution on some TVs.
In addition, you can now customize the FOV this way:
After starting the game up, the user.cfg will be updated with the r_base_fox attribute. You can find this in %LOCALAPPDATA%\4A Games\Metro LL\. Tweak it at your leisure!
http://steamcommunity.com/app/43160/discussions/0/810924774395015649/
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r_base_fov 69 = 95 HOR FOV I believe. It's the setting I'm using and looks great.
You can use MSI Afterburner. The OSD Server has a framerate limit option and it works perfectly well in my experience.
Hmm, so when I first played the game, I had a tessellation option available but now it has disappeared. In addition, performance has tanked. I was initially seeing a near perfect 60 fps but now I'm not able to hold it at all. Any ideas? What's going on here?
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
If you changed it to DX9 or DX10 api then tessellation won't work and that option is disabled. Check your config file and change the api line to 2 if it's 0 or 1.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Yep, MSI Afterburner is great for that, I dunno why so few recommend it, when I was googling for that I only found suggestions for stuff like DXTory and Frame Limiter and whatever else. Afterburner works great.
-bakalhau-
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This can happen if you started your game in safe mode - I did that once and had to switch to DX11 via the .cfg file, in the api line. Just switch it from a 0 or 1 to 2.
Anyone finding the Physx implementation sub-par? In visual terms at least. I find it has no performance impact so that is good. But particles are not that much and cloth simulation is turned on whether or not you have Physx turned on.
I had a firefight yesterday that benefited greatly from PhysX IMO.
thanks downloaded it but I cant find where is fps limiting section
) is it in setting>monitoring or somewhere else?Artistic limitations, Metro 2033 had crap textures too (and the outdoors had awful textures). They are technically sound and high res but they don't look good because not much time is spent on them. Compare that to a game like Castlevania or Uncharted, which appears to have much superior texture quality and consistency, even though they are made for consoles and the actual resolution of textures are lower than Metro.
After reading the Kotaku review (hur hur) it said people are having issues with framerates when using HDMI HD TVs.
Reading through this thread, it seems like some people are running on TVs and not monitors.
Any one had this issue?
I mean on a HDTV for the PC using HDMI instead of monitor. But if using a monitor or a VGA connection its fine. Just in the Kotaku review it stated:
I suppose if worse comes to worse I can swap from HDMI to VGA for the game.
This should run ok on my PC, this PC of mine when running at 720p on HDTV can manage no problem on that res.
Q6600 2.4GHZ
4GB RAM
6870 1GB AMD card.
Reading through this thread, it seems like some people are running on TVs and not monitors.
Any one had this issue?
I mean on a HDTV for the PC using HDMI instead of monitor. But if using a monitor or a VGA connection its fine. Just in the Kotaku review it stated:
I suppose if worse comes to worse I can swap from HDMI to VGA for the game.
This should run ok on my PC, this PC of mine when running at 720p on HDTV can manage no problem on that res.
Q6600 2.4GHZ
4GB RAM
6870 1GB AMD card.
thanks downloaded it but I cant find where is fps limiting section
Look in your Start Menu for MSI Afterburner -> MSI Afterburner On-Screen Display Server. (If clicking it seemingly does nothing, then it's already open and you'll need to click the system tray icon that has a pink "60" in the upper-left corner.) Click the spanner icon and then set your desired framerate limit.
found it thanks a lot mate
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
You can also enable single tray icon mode, I have it like that so I only have the GPU temperature showing in my tray rather than that, the afterburner icon and the osd server icon. Plus it has replaced fraps for me, since it has frame rate display and screenshot taking too (in .png for free!). It's such a great utility even if you don't use its fan control and overclocking functions, which I don't with this card yet, unlike the GTX285 I had.
Baconsaurus Rex
Member
Holy shit the patch worked really well. Much better performance and the flickering issues are gone.
File for me was in C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Local\4A Games\Metro LL\110000100005a67 Had to run the game once to generate the option in the config. Default was r_base_fov 50.625
Used http://www.rjdown.co.uk/projects/bfbc2/fovcalculator.php to calculate a new FOV of 64 (95 horizontal).
Default FOV:
64 FOV:
With a gun:
In that in-game intro I noticed some banding at the bottom of the screen where the game wasn't meant to be visible, so you may experience similar issues in other cutscenes.
Used http://www.rjdown.co.uk/projects/bfbc2/fovcalculator.php to calculate a new FOV of 64 (95 horizontal).
Default FOV:
64 FOV:
With a gun:
In that in-game intro I noticed some banding at the bottom of the screen where the game wasn't meant to be visible, so you may experience similar issues in other cutscenes.
Dictator93
Member
File for me was in C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Local\4A Games\Metro LL\110000100005a67 Had to run the game once to generate the option in the config file. Default was r_base_fov 50.625
Used http://www.rjdown.co.uk/projects/bfbc2/fovcalculator.php to calculate a new FOV of 64 (95 horizontal).
Default FOV:
64 FOV:
With a gun:
In that in-game intro I noticed some banding at the bottom of the screen where the game wasn't meant to be visible, so you may experience similar issues in other cutscenes.
I am debating whether or not I want to up my FOV... is the performance difference quite large?
Doesn't make a difference on SLI TITANs, but some folks may struggle if their performance is already marginal.
I dropped from 6fps at 1800p to -3.
HUGE boost in performance after patch!!! Game is actually playable now!
Ran some benchmark of the (most likely) configurations people with my card or similar setups might be running.
Specs: 2500k (stock), 8GB RAM, 7970 (No OC, 13.5 Beta drivers).
Maxed out, no AA, Tesselation Very High, no Physx:
Pre patch:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080; DX 11; Quality: Very High; AF 16X; PhysX: Disabled; Tesselation: Very High; Motion Blur: Normal; SSAA: OFF;
Post patch:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080; DX 11; Quality: Very High; AF 16X; PhysX: Disabled; Tesselation: Very High; Motion Blur: Normal; SSAA: OFF;
Maxed out, no AA, Tesselation Normal, no Physx:
Pre patch:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080; DX 11; Quality: Very High; AF 16X; PhysX: Disabled; Tesselation: Normal; Motion Blur: Normal; SSAA: OFF;
Maxed out, no AA, Tesselation Normal, no Physx:
Post patch:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080; DX 11; Quality: Very High; AF 16X; PhysX: Disabled; Tesselation: Normal; Motion Blur: Normal; SSAA: OFF
In the actual game I can safely say performance has doubled! Granted I have not progressed too much and just got outside for the first time but in the beginning scene where there's a bunch of dudes working out I used to get 14 FPS looking that way and when I turned around the opposite way I got 60 FPS, now I get almost 60 FPS locked everywhere I look.
When you go out the first time I got around 45ish and during combat 30ish, now I get 60ish and in combat around 45ish if not more.
No more shadow flickering anymore.
Great patch, I will actually start playing this today now that is fixed.
Ran some benchmark of the (most likely) configurations people with my card or similar setups might be running.
Specs: 2500k (stock), 8GB RAM, 7970 (No OC, 13.5 Beta drivers).
Maxed out, no AA, Tesselation Very High, no Physx:
Pre patch:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080; DX 11; Quality: Very High; AF 16X; PhysX: Disabled; Tesselation: Very High; Motion Blur: Normal; SSAA: OFF;
Post patch:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080; DX 11; Quality: Very High; AF 16X; PhysX: Disabled; Tesselation: Very High; Motion Blur: Normal; SSAA: OFF;
Maxed out, no AA, Tesselation Normal, no Physx:
Pre patch:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080; DX 11; Quality: Very High; AF 16X; PhysX: Disabled; Tesselation: Normal; Motion Blur: Normal; SSAA: OFF;
Maxed out, no AA, Tesselation Normal, no Physx:
Post patch:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080; DX 11; Quality: Very High; AF 16X; PhysX: Disabled; Tesselation: Normal; Motion Blur: Normal; SSAA: OFF
In the actual game I can safely say performance has doubled! Granted I have not progressed too much and just got outside for the first time but in the beginning scene where there's a bunch of dudes working out I used to get 14 FPS looking that way and when I turned around the opposite way I got 60 FPS, now I get almost 60 FPS locked everywhere I look.
When you go out the first time I got around 45ish and during combat 30ish, now I get 60ish and in combat around 45ish if not more.
No more shadow flickering anymore.
Great patch, I will actually start playing this today now that is fixed.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
That's a dramatic difference in your case, it's improved for me but it wasn't that bad previously except in some areas, I posted my results earlier. It's definitely smoother overall though. But the stuttering spikes are still there all over the place. And there's the occasional flickering visual glitch still, probably not because of GPU brand in this case however. I took screenshots of a few but I won't post because I didn't catch them...
Why's the colonel the only one with decent hair anyway? Everyone else looks to have some Bioshock style waxy hair stylization, or just textures on a head, or is bald, but his hair is proper good.
Why's the colonel the only one with decent hair anyway? Everyone else looks to have some Bioshock style waxy hair stylization, or just textures on a head, or is bald, but his hair is proper good.
SniperHunter
Banned
Awesome!
sammyCYBORG
Member
How playable would this be on a 6950 now after the patch?