There are plenty of really great deals across both console storefronts all of the time but neither come close to being as good as Steam and probably never will be.
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Microsofts FY2017 Q2 Earnings - Xbox Live MAU 55m (up 14,5%) Gaming revenue $3.595bn
- Thread starter hanspampel
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There are plenty of really great deals across both console storefronts all of the time but neither come close to being as good as Steam and probably never will be.
Obliterator
Member
BC for 360 on Windows 10 could be pretty big imo. I know I would love it, especially if they would find a way / allow you to increase the resolutions on some of those older games.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Attach rate is almost meaningless now with everyone buying $5 games in holiday sales and MS/Sony just giving away 2 to 3 games every month to every subscriber.
hanspampel
Banned
Unknown?
Member
How? Most 360 games are already on PC. It's only be good for a few titles. The rest would be inferior.
Obliterator
Member
I'm part of the minority that prefers the Xbox App vastly over Steams layout. I also buy MS games digitally so it would be cool to be able to play all those exclusives at 1080p (if they allowed this) on my PC that are nowhere near Steam.
Being able to play all those older Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable etc. titles again but in higher resolutions would be amazing.
xabbott
Member
I just wish Sony would allow me access to my digital PS1 and PS2 games on my PS4. Even if they had to charge me an "upgrade fee" to get the versions with trophies. That would be more tolerable than the current situation. Not to mention they could really leverage PS Now to allow access on a wide range of devices.
Despite the doom and gloom around here for Xbox/Microsoft. I feel they've made a lot of efforts and investments in making apps/games come with you across devices. I would have never suspected play anywhere support on 3rd party titles.I didn't expect the 360 titles to keep coming at the rate they have been. Now, a future where my XB1 purchases or even 360 titles play on a PC years from now is not out of the realm of possibility.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I'm pretty sure GAF (and a good chunk of the internet) would lose their shit if MS announced you could play RDR, Bayonetta, Lost Odyssey, Crackdown, Blue Dragon, and Halo 1-Reach tomorrow on your PC.
Though for the latter it's kinda baffling that MCC still isn't on PC, especially since Halo 6 is almost guaranteed to be multiplatform.
Neuromancer
Member
I logged onto my Xbox 360 a few days ago. I'm doing my part!
Captain Tuttle
Member
Yeah without selling the 360 though
Chaostar
Member
Haha I think some people thought "looking" was a typo. Sorry guys it was a bad joke
not sorry at all 
Bits N Pieces
Member
$1billion in digital transactions in 3 months? Fuckin hell.
Obliterator
Member
Indeed there are quite a few 360 games that aren't on PC whatsoever. BC would be pretty damn sweet on PC, and could be a useful tool for them to try and get some more people downloading the Xbox App and getting involved with their ecosystem. In fact I don't see any reason why they shouldn't do it, other than I'm sure it wouldn't be easy to implement.
But man it could be a pretty big thing for them.
Jaguar Victory
Member
I hope the powers that be put more emphasis and resources towards making the Windows 10 store a fucking utopia.
DLMN8TR works on the MS Store right? What's the latest man? Are the download issues and discoverability getting sorted soon? I don't game on PC much so I'm not really vested in that beyond hoping for the best for PC-GAF.
Papacheeks
Banned
That's a straight up lie. Go say that to deals in 2015 where they had the cheapest price for The witcher 3.
They also had the cheapest price that year for Wolfenstein the Old blood i got it for 6 dollars as apposed to steams 10$.
They have deals all the time that are super cheap and on par to steam.
Here's a sale from just this past week
Lord of the Fallen $3.99 in a time not in Black Friday or in steam's case winter sale, or summer.
AntraxSuicide
Banned
Two deals does not at all mean PSN is close to Steam.
Papacheeks
Banned
You need to get out more outside of certain ecosystems.
Here's one from just past week
And that's just for one week. They did days of Christmas for over 4+ weeks after Black Friday deals during all of December.
They are heavily inspired by the way steam discounts it games and are a close second.
Also this past week Batman Arkham Knight was $4.99 on PSN.
hanspampel
Banned
not required, but they asked you to create or link a live account on the first start
AFAIK (i could be wrong about this, so correct me if i'm wrong)
do you use 2 different accounts on mobile and the console?
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I've been using Windows 10 on my PC since it came out, and even I'm not among those MAU numbers for a Windows 10 PC. I'm apart of the 55 million strictly due to my Xbox One, and to a lesser degree, my Google Nexus 6P. I'm not even signed into the xbox app on my PC. I just went to it to see if it somehow automatically logged me in without me having to do so myself (something I'm aware you are not suggesting that it does), and it indeed didn't auto log me in.
So you definitely have to log in manually. With the setup being as it is, and with by far the heaviest Xbox Live activity happening on Xbox consoles, like the 360 or Xbox One (anyone dispute this?), there's really no sense trying to downplay the numbers by trying to make it appear like Windows 10 PCs account for some significant portion of the 55m. They almost certainly don't. And this doesn't even account for the possibility that if someone is logging into the Xbox App from their PC, they most likely also have an Xbox console.
SneakersSO
Member
Probably.
Actually...I just opened the Xbox app on Windows 10 for the first time and it did, fact, automatically log me in.
LukasTaves
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There's no trick. There was a reason why they expanded their services and games to pc and guess what, that reason was to get pc gamers to use it.
michaelius
Banned
How many xbox 360 era games don't have native pc version ? Outside of Microsoft first party almost nothing.
Digital distribution is super important to the big publishers nowadays. I don't think they'd even consider making a game that can't be released that way any more.
You need a Microsoft account to access Solitaire because it's now part of the Windows 10 Store. And it serves ads unless you pay to get rid of them.
LukasTaves
Member
And that's why they are pushing the unification of the Microsoft store across all platforms.
Herp Derpington
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Are we comparing just every day deals along with some flash sales and other specials or are we comparing summer and winter sales? If so Live and PSN don't really compare IMO.
Obliterator
Member
Off the top of my head a few of the big ones are Red Dead Redemption, Bayonetta, Lost Odyssey.
Not to mention why are we suddenly pretending like having BC on 1st party games isn't a big deal? People have been asking for Halo on PC for years
CrimsonEclipse
Member
I think you're right, though can't remember the last time I saw him popped in the a thread.
CrispyBoar
Banned
This. Attach rates is much more important than just having higher console sales.
I wonder what the attach rate is for PS4?
Come on dude most of those games I've gotten in years past in humble bundles.
Considering they've sold over 400 million software...probably damn good.
Obliterator
Member
PS4 attach rate is 7.5 games. Not counting free PS+ games
SenjutsuSage
Banned
It didn't do that for me at all. It found my old xbox live account, since my login account for windows isn't the same as my main xbox live account, but it still requested that I log in manually. It only found the record of my account and showed me the gamerpic, but it didn't auto log me in.
It probably does if you have logged into windows 10 using the same windows Id that is connected to your live account. I know that regular ass people like my parents and my brother have never once even seen the Xbox app nor browsed the App Store.
Papacheeks
Banned
So you got Batman Arkham Knight for less than 4.99 through humble bundle?
And got The witcher 3 2 years ago for 24.99 through humble bundle?
Papacheeks
Banned
Flash sales are not every day deals they do them each month regularly, and the prices of AAA games go on sale on PSN just as much as they do on steam in the off months.
That's my whole point, they are doing a really competitive job on PSN and haven't been around nearly as long as steam. And my whole point before derailing was they do sales more often than xbox live, and usually at cheaper prices because of Plus.
I don't think that's completely fair to say. Xbox Live does weekly sales as well, it's just that they don't attach special names to them the way PSN does most of the time.
Why would he count as two users? Unless he using two different accounts?
LukasTaves
Member
That's why they say monthly users, that numbers go up and down the whole year during usage. Obviously more usage during holidays.
Papacheeks
Banned
Difference is you have to have Gold to get games like titanfall on sale for 50% off.
PSN you don't, you just get an added discount on top if it's stack-able for that sale, or is a PS+ inspired sale.
The last one from this past week were regular sales, and I dont have plus but could get Tomb Raider Definitive, and Bataman Arkham Knight for $4.99.
Here's just plain game deals right now on xbox without needing live.
Obviously they have bigger sales that dont require live, but I see more on PSN especially on threads here than I do Microsoft.
Obviously there are one off deals that are great. Look at that list of games under $5. I did get Witcher 3 on PC during a sale for somewhere around $30. Steam is consistently the cheapest place to buy games and thinking otherwise is suspect to me. That's not even taking in consideration places like CD keys where you can buy keys for close to half off on the day of release.
Steelyuhas
Member
No, that should be one. But it would include someone that played an iOS game that uses Xbox Live accounts even if they've never played on an Xbox before.
Shpeshal Nick
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Pretty good.