Wii said:http://gameinformer.com/b/news/arch...ds-successor-already-being-developed-for.aspx
Late 2010/Early 2011, JUST AS I HAVE FORSEEN
GAF->Internet->GAF
Wii said:http://gameinformer.com/b/news/arch...ds-successor-already-being-developed-for.aspx
Late 2010/Early 2011, JUST AS I HAVE FORSEEN
TunaLover said:"When Mr. Miyamoto goes to Mr. Iwata and says. 'I have this great idea and I can't do it on the Wii,' that's when there will be a next generation console. What that includes we'll see. I think Mr. Miyamoto himself has said that he himself is very interested in a high-definition experience, but to be 120 percent crystal clear, HD by itself in our view is not enough to go for a new console past the Wii. (Our new console will be) consistent with what we brought to market with Wii and with DS. It will be mainstream. It will be encouraging more and more consumers to get into this category that we love. It will provide new, unique, compelling experiences that are meaningful to that large potential consumer base. Those are the principles that drive us." - Reggie Fils-Aime
In a recent interview, I think it was today
seady said:It has been a long time since we have a true new hardware (not upgrade/slim etc)... we have never waited so long...
Fatalah said:The economy.
AceBandage said:I'd say it has more to do how Sony and MS jumped into this generation.
They thought "We have to go big and bad! No matter the cost."
Except that it really bit them in the butt.
Skiesofwonder said:"I think a hallmark of Nintendo is that we are constantly trying to innovate. I think we would have been embarrassed to do what our competitors are currently doing. So, all I can tell you is that we will innovate. We will provide something new. Something that the consumer and the industry will look at and say 'Wow, I didn't see that coming.'"
:lol
I can't believe someone hasn't made a thread about this yet. *hint hint*
Not at all, unless it was super-fast RAM. The first generation iPhone had 128MB RAM.Snakeyes said:I wonder if 128 MB of RAM would be expensive to put in a handheld today.
Skiesofwonder said:"I think a hallmark of Nintendo is that we are constantly trying to innovate. I think we would have been embarrassed to do what our competitors are currently doing. So, all I can tell you is that we will innovate. We will provide something new. Something that the consumer and the industry will look at and say 'Wow, I didn't see that coming.'"
:lol
I can't believe someone hasn't made a thread about this yet. *hint hint*
TunaLover said:The embarrasment comes from not having a purpouse to do that, they throw new machines for the sake to strike gold somehow, but without a proper vision aside of the me too factor.
Maxrunner said:where did he said that?
Mr. Wonderful said:Not at all, unless it was super-fast RAM. The first generation iPhone had 128MB RAM.
Skiesofwonder said:Yeah, I understand. I actually agree with Reggie on that. It is embarrassing for the game industry as a whole.
But, what I find funny is that the President of Nintendo of America actually has the balls to come out and say something like that. He didn't side-step the question or sugar-coat it... he just said exactly what was on his mind.
Reggie, still kicking ass and taking names. Loving it!!
http://kotaku.com/5492102/the-next-wii-will-innovate-the-race-to-motion-is-embarrassingquot
Fatalah said:I would say that the disastrous economy is the common thread that separates 1990-2006 videogaming, from 2006-present..
I think it's pretty easy to argue that Move is the copycat of copycats from Sony in a long time. Not that it is a bad thing for the industry, but it is what it is and not everyone would be wholly content with that if they were in Sony's shoes.Skiesofwonder said:"I think a hallmark of Nintendo is that we are constantly trying to innovate. I think we would have been embarrassed to do what our competitors are currently doing. So, all I can tell you is that we will innovate. We will provide something new. Something that the consumer and the industry will look at and say 'Wow, I didn't see that coming.'"
:lol
I can't believe someone hasn't made a thread about this yet. *hint hint*
Skiesofwonder said:He didn't side-step the question or sugar-coat it... he just said exactly what was on his mind.
This post makes me scared of Nintendo fansDrGAKMAN said:I feel like I'm going back to the drawing boards again with my console/portable hybrid.
I thought I had thought out all the kinks of making a portable/hybrid "home kit" to hook up to your TV. The hooking up isn't really the problem (HDMI, power/recharge, a stand/clamp to put in front of or on top of the TV) but rather, I can't get past some issues I'm having in both planning/design. The biggie is, what about current Wii owners...I thought it would be as simple as having the "home kit" double as a sensor bar/WiiSpeak for the current Wii, but it's not so simple when you factor in that you'd basically need an extra power source *and* USB (for Wii's WiiSpeak) which *really* get's tight on top of the Wii's other cords plus the HDMI for the hybrid...
It's probably confusing to understand as I'm explaining it from my POV (of brainstorming about a hybrid for so long), but then I thought about what if people have multiple consoles even and then they get camera's/peripherals to possition around their TV for those other systems as well??? What if Nintendo plans to impliment some kind of camera system of their own for the current or next Wii? That's a lot of shit to have hangin' around your TV and a hybrid might just be too over the top!
So, back to the drawing boards. I love the idea of having a hybrid console/portable...but it's an all or nothing situation I see...it can't really be in stages with "home kits" and goofy hook-ups. I had great plans, but...for the type of consumer Nintendo is going for (everyone), it might be a turn off.
There was an article I read about Nintendo possibly approaching next-gen in stages and in some ways (like how the Wii Remote has been "upgraded") it made sense. I thought much the same way in regards to making consoles and portables converge, but really, if/when that happens I think it has to be more clear-cut that that's what it is...and that it would be all-in-one (no "home kit") or two distinctly seperate systems that could play the same games.
You also have to factor in the timing...these platforms (whether distinctly seperate or hybrid systems) would have to launch close enough to each other for it to make sense. I was thinking (and still do to a lot of degree) that the timing for market possitioning, hardware power level, software resourcing and industry readiness to such a drastic approach would be ready in time for Nintendo's "next-gen". I figured since Nintendo "held back" the Wii a generation and that the next generation for their handhelds would essentially be a GCN/Wii-level platform that the timing was right for a hybrid or *more likely* a universal platform that played the same games.
Imagine (if the rumors were true about a Tegra deal) a Tegra 2 based DS2 followed by a Tegra 3 based Wii2 that both played the same games off either DD or a new holographic storage card. 2011 for DS2, 2012 for Wii2...I dunno anymore, but either way, I'm back to the drawing boards.
DrGAKMAN has.... issues. Its best to just ignore his posts as otherwise you just embolden him to write more lengthy pseudo-intellect jargon.peakish said:This post makes me scared of Nintendo fans
Atomski said:I predict the resurrection of the Gameboy. DS was never meant to replace it.
Because everyone should generalize their opinion of an entire group based on what one person does.peakish said:This post makes me scared of Nintendo fans
Is this all you think about in your spare time?DrGAKMAN said:I feel like I'm going back to the drawing boards again with my console/portable hybrid.
I thought I had thought out all the kinks of making a portable/hybrid "home kit" to hook up to your TV. The hooking up isn't really the problem (HDMI, power/recharge, a stand/clamp to put in front of or on top of the TV) but rather, I can't get past some issues I'm having in both planning/design. The biggie is, what about current Wii owners...I thought it would be as simple as having the "home kit" double as a sensor bar/WiiSpeak for the current Wii, but it's not so simple when you factor in that you'd basically need an extra power source *and* USB (for Wii's WiiSpeak) which *really* get's tight on top of the Wii's other cords plus the HDMI for the hybrid...
It's probably confusing to understand as I'm explaining it from my POV (of brainstorming about a hybrid for so long), but then I thought about what if people have multiple consoles even and then they get camera's/peripherals to possition around their TV for those other systems as well??? What if Nintendo plans to impliment some kind of camera system of their own for the current or next Wii? That's a lot of shit to have hangin' around your TV and a hybrid might just be too over the top!
So, back to the drawing boards. I love the idea of having a hybrid console/portable...but it's an all or nothing situation I see...it can't really be in stages with "home kits" and goofy hook-ups. I had great plans, but...for the type of consumer Nintendo is going for (everyone), it might be a turn off.
There was an article I read about Nintendo possibly approaching next-gen in stages and in some ways (like how the Wii Remote has been "upgraded") it made sense. I thought much the same way in regards to making consoles and portables converge, but really, if/when that happens I think it has to be more clear-cut that that's what it is...and that it would be all-in-one (no "home kit") or two distinctly seperate systems that could play the same games.
You also have to factor in the timing...these platforms (whether distinctly seperate or hybrid systems) would have to launch close enough to each other for it to make sense. I was thinking (and still do to a lot of degree) that the timing for market possitioning, hardware power level, software resourcing and industry readiness to such a drastic approach would be ready in time for Nintendo's "next-gen". I figured since Nintendo "held back" the Wii a generation and that the next generation for their handhelds would essentially be a GCN/Wii-level platform that the timing was right for a hybrid or *more likely* a universal platform that played the same games.
Imagine (if the rumors were true about a Tegra deal) a Tegra 2 based DS2 followed by a Tegra 3 based Wii2 that both played the same games off either DD or a new holographic storage card. 2011 for DS2, 2012 for Wii2...I dunno anymore, but either way, I'm back to the drawing boards.
XiaNaphryz said:Because everyone should generalize their opinion of an entire group based on what one person does.
swerve said:It's not that shocking of a statement. He didn't say *THEY* should feel embarrassed, just that if Nintendo were in the position where they felt it necessary to release hardware primarily to pick up on the trends started by the other guys, they'd feel embarrassed. Their culture has long been to strike out on their own, win or lose.
Yes.DeathbyVolcano said:Why, yes, yes they should.
Well they would both be poor decisions but I suppose option B is the more viable of the two.DrGAKMAN said:Actually, I was just thinking out loud again and regurgitating thoughts since I had kept saying that I was going to show off my hybrid concept. I figured to talk about it now that this thread has slightly-resurrected due to GDC rumors.
Here's a question...
What do you guys think is more viable for Nintendo to do:
A) a console/portable hybrid
or
B) a universal format that plays across both their console & portable systems
DrGAKMAN said:A) a console/portable hybrid
DrGAKMAN said:B) a universal format that plays across both their console & portable systems
*giggle*selig said:I could care less
Thunder Monkey said:*giggle*
Clamshell good.Reallink said:I would agree. Dual screens bring nothing to the table, probably add unnecessary cost in manufacturing, and really only detract from the experience if anything.
Yeah. I often find GAKMAN's speculation crazy, but he has hit a grand slam or two.Diffense said:I still remember how everyone was laughing at Gakman's mockup of the Wii controller and it turned out to be the closest thing to what was actually revealed.
DrGAKMAN said:B) a universal format that plays across both their console & portable systems
Plinko said:Here's my insane prediction for the next Wii (as I fully expect them to include something nobody has thought of):
It is it's own projector. No TV needed. Not holographic or anything like that--just is a console/projector hybrid.
DrGAKMAN said:I feel like I'm going back to the drawing boards again with my console/portable hybrid.
I thought I had thought out all the kinks of making a portable/hybrid "home kit" to hook up to your TV. The hooking up isn't really the problem (HDMI, power/recharge, a stand/clamp to put in front of or on top of the TV) but rather, I can't get past some issues I'm having in both planning/design. The biggie is, what about current Wii owners...I thought it would be as simple as having the "home kit" double as a sensor bar/WiiSpeak for the current Wii, but it's not so simple when you factor in that you'd basically need an extra power source *and* USB (for Wii's WiiSpeak) which *really* get's tight on top of the Wii's other cords plus the HDMI for the hybrid...
It's probably confusing to understand as I'm explaining it from my POV (of brainstorming about a hybrid for so long), but then I thought about what if people have multiple consoles even and then they get camera's/peripherals to possition around their TV for those other systems as well??? What if Nintendo plans to impliment some kind of camera system of their own for the current or next Wii? That's a lot of shit to have hangin' around your TV and a hybrid might just be too over the top!
So, back to the drawing boards. I love the idea of having a hybrid console/portable...but it's an all or nothing situation I see...it can't really be in stages with "home kits" and goofy hook-ups. I had great plans, but...for the type of consumer Nintendo is going for (everyone), it might be a turn off.
There was an article I read about Nintendo possibly approaching next-gen in stages and in some ways (like how the Wii Remote has been "upgraded") it made sense. I thought much the same way in regards to making consoles and portables converge, but really, if/when that happens I think it has to be more clear-cut that that's what it is...and that it would be all-in-one (no "home kit") or two distinctly seperate systems that could play the same games.
You also have to factor in the timing...these platforms (whether distinctly seperate or hybrid systems) would have to launch close enough to each other for it to make sense. I was thinking (and still do to a lot of degree) that the timing for market possitioning, hardware power level, software resourcing and industry readiness to such a drastic approach would be ready in time for Nintendo's "next-gen". I figured since Nintendo "held back" the Wii a generation and that the next generation for their handhelds would essentially be a GCN/Wii-level platform that the timing was right for a hybrid or *more likely* a universal platform that played the same games.
Imagine (if the rumors were true about a Tegra deal) a Tegra 2 based DS2 followed by a Tegra 3 based Wii2 that both played the same games off either DD or a new holographic storage card. 2011 for DS2, 2012 for Wii2...I dunno anymore, but either way, I'm back to the drawing boards.
selig said:Another popular theory from back then before the wiimote´s unveiling. I also think that it´s a possibility, but then again...you have to have room for a projector, and they are expensive to replace the Glühbirne, once it´s used for a long time. But me, too, expect something crazy like that. Projector, 3D-visor, or something we´r not thinking of,yet. I cant stop thinking at the Miyamoto-quote, where he said "I´d love to bringt the game out of the TV, into the room". Hopeful wish, or a hint? Who knows.
selig said:Another popular theory from back then before the wiimote´s unveiling. I also think that it´s a possibility, but then again...you have to have room for a projector, and they are expensive to replace the Glühbirne, once it´s used for a long time. But me, too, expect something crazy like that. Projector, 3D-visor, or something we´r not thinking of,yet. I cant stop thinking at the Miyamoto-quote, where he said "I´d love to bringt the game out of the TV, into the room". Hopeful wish, or a hint? Who knows.
Earl Cazone said:it could use one of those new portable projectors which are also implemented in cellphones
What would be the point? Families (which even more now than before the Wii is the main focus) have TV sets. Projectors costing as much as they already do would make the price hit the roof of the console and it would be much more of a hassle to manage for casual gamers setting everything up.Plinko said:Here's my insane prediction for the next Wii (as I fully expect them to include something nobody has thought of):
It is it's own projector. No TV needed. Not holographic or anything like that--just is a console/projector hybrid.
peakish said:What would be the point? Families (which even more now than before the Wii is the main focus) have TV sets. Projectors costing as much as they already do would make the price hit the roof of the console and it would be much more of a hassle to manage for casual gamers setting everything up.
(Well at least you think they're thinking of something completely different than you so I'm only commenting on the idea itself)
peakish said:What would be the point? Families (which even more now than before the Wii is the main focus) have TV sets. Projectors costing as much as they already do would make the price hit the roof of the console and it would be much more of a hassle to manage for casual gamers setting everything up.
(Well at least you think they're thinking of something completely different than you so I'm only commenting on the idea itself)
selig said:I dont think it´s very likely that Nintendo integrates a projector into their next system, BUT I can see the merits of that idea.
Basically, Nintendo frees the consumer from the need of a TV. The wouldnt only make Nintendo independent from other companies products, but would also neutralize any differences in what kind of game experience you get. Everyone would get the same experience for their money, not rich guy would be able to buy a better device, because there wouldnt be one. It´d be a great approach into a more fair age of gaming. Still, I cant see a projector becoming reality. Rather 3D-visors
Fixed.JohnTinker said:If DS2 is coming, I had better finally get my damn portable VC for GB/GBC/GBA/GG/NGP/WS/Lynx games.
DrGAKMAN said:What if Nintendo plans to impliment some kind of camera system of their own for the current or next Wii? That's a lot of shit to have hangin' around your TV and a hybrid might just be too over the top!
nightez said:My only wish is that Nintendo goes back to designing powerful hardware again. This is the 1st generation where Sony had a more powerful machine than Nintendo.
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