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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)

Driver86

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Here you go...
Fucking time of day... I had to load the track 4 times before find it.
I don't have the car he used because I don't have 500k to buy it now.

HIS PIC


GTS PIC

Please don't feed the troll, you are exactly falling into his trap: replicate his pics taken in the worst points of the track with the worst time of day, an all the other trickes that he use. Moreover your pics are from standard PS4 so he can compare them with PC ultra settings to better denigrate GTS that is his only purpose
 
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Nice shots......Nothing touches GTS on TOD levels, perfectly lit and depicted unlike Forza at dusk, dawn or night...…….GTS is like a generation ahead in lighting......
The need for validation and confirmation bias around here is


"Maybe if I throw this inflation comment in about how great GTS looks it will more greatly root my views in reality with others"
 

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GTS real Laguna seca screenshots (various TOD)








Nice you just proved my point again clown, nice lighting with high quality materials and lower tracks details. And funny enough you post 80% of the time images of GTS in dark lighting conditions lol. You tryna hide every bit of low detail but its still visible, and your shots look low rez and blurry. And funny enough you didn't take the shots in the same place because you now even the lighting woulnd't hide the low details on those locations. But keep doing this clown stuff, you even warned your friend to stop posting and making your selfs look stupid. You act like a litlle kid that cries about everything because your piece of plastic doesn't deliver what others can. And if its a shitty lighting condition and tod for GTS then its the same for Forza, its the same tod and track and car so stop fucking posting random pictures with different tod and calling them "REAL LAGUNA SEGA" while calling mine fake and crying. You are really pathetic, a waste of time.
 

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Forza is better in every single aspect. GT has stopped in time, although GTS in some regards is a step in the right direction.
Not close to GTS actually; not in visuals, not in details and ATD, not in motorsport, not in driving feel and certainly not in online...….Check how many people are still playing GTS compared to Forza, it's not even in the same ballpark....



OTOH: That third pic where the sun glints over the Ford from Driver86 is really impressive...…..
 

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Not close to GTS actually; not in visuals, not in details and ATD, not in motorsport, not in driving feel and certainly not in online...….Check how many people are still playing GTS compared to Forza, it's not even in the same ballpark....



OTOH: That third pic where the sun glints over the Ford from Driver86 is really impressive...…..
I mean, the PS4 sold twice what the XB sold or more... and GT is a much bigger franchise.
 

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I mean, the PS4 sold twice what the XB sold or more... and GT is a much bigger franchise.
Well Forza is on PC too and if people claim GT has fallen and people don't buy it as before, it can't be a good excuse...….

GT = PS4
Forza = XBOX and PC with a better score as people like to point out...

I guess people just prefer GT for it's better authenticity for motorsports, driving model and more realistic graphics....
 

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Well Forza is on PC too and if people claim GT has fallen and people don't buy it as before, it can't be a good excuse...….

GT = PS4
Forza = XBOX and PC with a better score as people like to point out...

I guess people just prefer GT for it's better authenticity for motorsports, driving model and more realistic graphics....
More spin than a merry-go-round here
 

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Well Forza is on PC too and if people claim GT has fallen and people don't buy it as before, it can't be a good excuse...….

GT = PS4
Forza = XBOX and PC with a better score as people like to point out...

I guess people just prefer GT for it's better authenticity for motorsports, driving model and more realistic graphics....
OR the reality is PlayStation 4 has had a very poor generational cycle for racing games and people who enjoy them are starving for something to play (insert GTS) while on Xbox the community has been inundated with quality racing games all generation and there's not only a wider breadth to choose from there is less reason to move on.

Also PC has a massive number of well established racing titles, least of which is Forza Motorsport. This is not only the first Forza Motorsport game on PC, it's attached directly to the Windows Store which is incredibly unpopular so it's a huge shock there that attachment is not high.

You guys crack me up, the amount of reaching and self patting on the back is incredible. Come to grips with reality, please.








 
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OR the reality is PlayStation 4 has had a very poor generational cycle for racing games and people who enjoy them are starving for something to play (insert GTS) while on Xbox the community has been inundated with quality racing games all generation and there's not only a wider breadth to choose from there is less reason to move on.

Also PC has a massive number of well established racing titles, least of which is Forza Motorsport. This is not only the first Forza Motorsport game on PC, it's attached directly to the Windows Store which is incredibly unpopular so it's a huge shock there that attachment is not high.

You guys crack me up, the amount of reaching and self patting on the back is incredible. Come to grips with reality, please.








I posted the comparison also 2 pages ago and the tod and lighting is literally the closest it ever was between the 2. And they start crying that i choose the worst tod for GTS wich is 80% of the time day light in GTS. The track details and in game car details are just lower, they can't accept that and start accusing you for something they are doing like touching up the picture's. And even in there own shots you can see the low detail they post it them selfs but are still in denial that it looks better and sharper wich is really pathetic. They are the biggest trolls on Neogaf, and they even got banned a couple times for that and yet they still post the same shit.
 

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I posted the comparison also 2 pages ago and the tod and lighting is literally the closest it ever was between the 2. And they start crying that i choose the worst tod for GTS wich is 80% of the time day light in GTS. The track details and in game car details are just lower, they can't accept that and start accusing you for something they are doing like touching up the picture's. And even in there own shots you can see the low detail they post it them selfs but are still in denial that it looks better and sharper wich is really pathetic. They are the biggest trolls on Neogaf, and they even got banned a couple times for that and yet they still post the same shit.
Oh I know the run around, they don't like nearly matching ToD, they don't like noon, everything is a conspiracy theory, they like to amp up morning and evening shots because they're dark, hide details and overblow lighting highlights and shadows.

I know their game, it's toddler level.
 

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OR the reality is PlayStation 4 has had a very poor generational cycle for racing games and people who enjoy them are starving for something to play (insert GTS) while on Xbox the community has been inundated with quality racing games all generation and there's not only a wider breadth to choose from there is less reason to move on.

Also PC has a massive number of well established racing titles, least of which is Forza Motorsport. This is not only the first Forza Motorsport game on PC, it's attached directly to the Windows Store which is incredibly unpopular so it's a huge shock there that attachment is not high.

You guys crack me up, the amount of reaching and self patting on the back is incredible. Come to grips with reality, please.
Inundated? by what Forza? What are those racing games that are not Forza that's not on PS4...

All the other racers are on PS4 and the majority of them run better on PS4 from launch 2013...….Also, if you want a little variety in your racing, there's Wipeout at 4k native 60fps. Redout is better on PS4 and both GTS and DC have VR modes for an experience you can't get on XBOX......I'd say racing wise PS4 is definitely ahead......
 

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Inundated? by what Forza? What are those racing games that are not Forza that's not on PS4...

All the other racers are on PS4 and the majority of them run better on PS4 from launch 2013...….Also, if you want a little variety in your racing, there's Wipeout at 4k native 60fps. Redout is better on PS4 and both GTS and DC have VR modes for an experience you can't get on XBOX......I'd say racing wise PS4 is definitely ahead......
Well guess what, they don't run better anymore and haven't for over two years now, interesting how that happens when better hardware comes out. Wipeout is variety? Okay, well they're all old games from other PlayStation platforms thrown into a collection, the VR mode is a novelty and fun for a bit but that's it. Driveclub? DRIVECLUB? It's not a good game, it improved but it's still not great. Even worse it's being taken offline killing the only thing that even makes it worth playing. Hell you can't even access some cars if you're not in a club of a certain level so game content will be lost in its entirety.

So that's what PS4 has to offer? That's it? Old Wipeout games and a middling arcade racer which is not only shutting down but the studio was closed down as well? Great prospects. Anyways Forza has been the king of racing games for two generations now, Xbox doesn't need anything else, they've got all the bases covered from the simulation fan to the arcade racer, and they've continually executed reverence, content and quality.

It took over 5 years for the PS4 to get a solid racing game, and I say 5 because the game was barebones for nearly a year. Over the last 6-8 months GTS has finally been shaping into something acceptable.
 
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Well guess what, they don't run better anymore and haven't for over two years now, interesting how that happens when better hardware comes out. Wipeout is variety? Okay, well they're all old games from other PlayStation platforms thrown into a collection, the VR mode is a novelty and fun for a bit but that's it. Driveclub? DRIVECLUB? It's not a good game, it improved but it's still not great. Even worse it's being taken offline killing the only thing that even makes it worth playing. Hell you can't even access some cars if you're not in a club of a certain level so game content will be lost in its entirety.

So that's what PS4 has to offer? That's it? Old Wipeout games and a middling arcade racer which is not only shutting down but the studio was closed down as well? Great prospects. Anyways Forza has been the king of racing games for two generations now, Xbox doesn't need anything else, they've got all the bases covered from the simulation fan to the arcade racer, and they've continually executed reverence, content and quality.

It took over 5 years for the PS4 to get a solid racing game, and I say 5 because the game was barebones for nearly a year. Over the last 6-8 months GTS has finally been shaping into something acceptable.
No matter how you try to deny GTS and DC, they were the most iconic racers this gen...…..The games were not marked down because of their quality gameplay...….GTS and DC excelled in gameplay, they were marked down because of content, at least neither had a huge microtransaction problem, had the best after-release support period.….As it stands, the reason people still talk so fondly about both games and play them to this day is because of how great and exhilarating the racing was/is on those games....

Everybody knows Forza is a farce online, even hardcore Forza fans say so, like Super GT, it just cant compare to GT......Productions, everything is way over Forza, when you're spectating online races and tournaments in GT you feel like you're watching a real race.......Forza is like a twitchy Destruction Derby that takes you out of immersion quicker than Rosie O Donell at the Vegas Bunny Ranch.....
 

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No matter how you try to deny GTS and DC, they were the most iconic racers this gen...…..The games were not marked down because of their quality gameplay...….GTS and DC excelled in gameplay, they were marked down because of content, at least neither had a huge microtransaction problem, had the best after-release support period.….As it stands, the reason people still talk so fondly about both games and play them to this day is because of how great and exhilarating the racing was/is on those games....

Everybody knows Forza is a farce online, even hardcore Forza fans say so, like Super GT, it just cant compare to GT......Productions, everything is way over Forza, when you're spectating online races and tournaments in GT you feel like you're watching a real race.......Forza is like a twitchy Destruction Derby that takes you out of immersion quicker than Rosie O Donell at the Vegas Bunny Ranch.....
Iconic? Are you for real lol?

Driveclub was just a bland and generic racing game and it got knocked heavily for that well beyond the content issues. If it didn't look the way it does no one would give it a passing thought, that was its draw and appeal, not its gameplay. GTS is solid in gameplay but it's by no means perfect and it has a host of issues all its own, Forza does as well.

The reality is the only real problem facing Forza has been online racing and how that's managed which I no doubt assume will be completely rewritten in Forza 8. Everything else though has been solid, good physics simulation, proper motion, knocking and jerking with uneven terrain and sense of speed are on point due to excellent motion blur, depending on the car and displacement of the engine the vehicles will actually shake, tons of cars, a full career, good graphics to a degree and sound design, an unmatched amount of real race tracks etc.

GTS has been like DLC the game, a product which wasn't ready, and frankly still isn't but it's getting there adding bit by bit. It also looks really good in certain degrees and has excellent lighting, however I find the physics to be a bit odd and overtly rigid.

One of the biggest issues with GTS beyond the piecemeal content is the lack of impact as if you're actually driving a high powered car, it's very lifeless. The game has no motion blur which kills a sense of speed, everything feels floaty, there's no reverberation from the car and tracks barely telegraph the surfaces you're driving on. Steering and overall control feels robotic and the feeling of analog haptics are just nearly non existent.

You can just see this in motion, without having to even touch a controller, it doesn't look right. It's like you're driving on a cloud just taking a sunday drive.


Neither game is perfect but in my opinion Forza has less of a traversal to climb in terms of what needs to be done.
 
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OR the reality is PlayStation 4 has had a very poor generational cycle for racing games and people who enjoy them are starving for something to play (insert GTS) while on Xbox the community has been inundated with quality racing games all generation and there's not only a wider breadth to choose from there is less reason to move on.
You are absolutely right about lack of more racing games on PS4. But actually everything that Xbox has, so does the ps4 (F1, Asseto Corsa, Project Racing, Dirt Rally, GRID, WRC 8) So the only thing it doesnt is Forza and Forza Horizon. And thats aboout the only thing the xbox users have to play :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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You are absolutely right about lack of more racing games on PS4. But actually everything that Xbox has, so does the ps4 (F1, Asseto Corsa, Project Racing, Dirt Rally, GRID, WRC 8) So the only thing it doesnt is Forza and Forza Horizon. And thats aboout the only thing the xbox users have to play :messenger_tears_of_joy:
I wouldn't frame it that way because it's a disservice seeing as Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon have been continually the highest rated racing games of the generation. So to assert that the "only thing" it has above the PS4 for racing is that; is laughable.

It has all of those multiplatform racers and the two best beyond them.

 
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Nice you just proved my point again clown, nice lighting with high quality materials and lower tracks details. And funny enough you post 80% of the time images of GTS in dark lighting conditions lol. You tryna hide every bit of low detail but its still visible, and your shots look low rez and blurry. And funny enough you didn't take the shots in the same place because you now even the lighting woulnd't hide the low details on those locations. But keep doing this clown stuff, you even warned your friend to stop posting and making your selfs look stupid. You act like a litlle kid that cries about everything because your piece of plastic doesn't deliver what others can. And if its a shitty lighting condition and tod for GTS then its the same for Forza, its the same tod and track and car so stop fucking posting random pictures with different tod and calling them "REAL LAGUNA SEGA" while calling mine fake and crying. You are really pathetic, a waste of time.
You are the only one that are crying. You are really pathetic, a waste of time. (cit.)

The track on GTS is simply perfect, and all your (and of your friends) attempts to misrepresent the game are just pathetic



on FM 5/6/7 the track looks completely different from the real one (hills shape and position, trees position, a lot of non existing structures along the track, and a lot of other details). Probably it's not even laser scanned. Only a blind can't notice this

 
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Inundated? by what Forza? What are those racing games that are not Forza that's not on PS4...

All the other racers are on PS4 and the majority of them run better on PS4 from launch 2013...….Also, if you want a little variety in your racing, there's Wipeout at 4k native 60fps. Redout is better on PS4 and both GTS and DC have VR modes for an experience you can't get on XBOX......I'd say racing wise PS4 is definitely ahead......
If Wipeout is being counted then we must count Forza Horizon 1 and via bc 4k on XbX
 

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Top gear 20 best driving games of the decade

1 Forza Horizon 4
2 Mario Kart 8
3 Gran Turismo Sport
4 Assetto Corsa
5 DiRT Rally 2.0
6 F1 2019
7 Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit
8 Rocket League
9 Blur
10 Forza Motorsport 7
11. Project CARS 2 (2017)
12. Driveclub (2014)
13. rFactor 2 (2013)
14. The Crew (2014)
15. Mudrunner: A Spintires Game (2017)
16. Grid (2019)
17. Euro Truck Simulator 2 (2012)
18. Driver: San Francisco (2011)
19. RaceRoom Racing Experience (2013)
20. Split/Second: Velocity (2010)


https://www.topgear.com/car-news/ele...-decade-10-1#8

GT Sport is the pinnacle of console simulators and Gran Turismo 7 in all but name, with a handling model that’s intuitive and convincing and a structure that borrows the best bits from real life racing.





GT haters in this moment →



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DynamiteCop!

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Top gear 20 best driving games of the decade

1 Forza Horizon 4
2 Mario Kart 8
3 Gran Turismo Sport
4 Assetto Corsa
5 DiRT Rally 2.0
6 F1 2019
7 Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit
8 Rocket League
9 Blur
10 Forza Motorsport 7
11. Project CARS 2 (2017)
12. Driveclub (2014)
13. rFactor 2 (2013)
14. The Crew (2014)
15. Mudrunner: A Spintires Game (2017)
16. Grid (2019)
17. Euro Truck Simulator 2 (2012)
18. Driver: San Francisco (2011)
19. RaceRoom Racing Experience (2013)
20. Split/Second: Velocity (2010)


https://www.topgear.com/car-news/ele...-decade-10-1#8

GT Sport is the pinnacle of console simulators and Gran Turismo 7 in all but name, with a handling model that’s intuitive and convincing and a structure that borrows the best bits from real life racing.





GT haters in this moment →



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Still seeking outside validation are we? Well in that case.


1 Forza Horizon 4
2 Mario Kart 8
3 Gran Turismo Sport


 

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You are the only one that are crying. You are really pathetic, a waste of time. (cit.)

The track on GTS is simply perfect, and all your (and of your friends) attempts to misrepresent the game are just pathetic



on FM 5/6/7 the track looks completely different from the real one (hills shape and position, trees position, a lot of non existing structures along the track, and a lot of other details). Probably it's not even laser scanned. Only a blind can't notice this

Top gear 20 best driving games of the decade

1 Forza Horizon 4
2 Mario Kart 8
3 Gran Turismo Sport
4 Assetto Corsa
5 DiRT Rally 2.0
6 F1 2019
7 Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit
8 Rocket League
9 Blur
10 Forza Motorsport 7
11. Project CARS 2 (2017)
12. Driveclub (2014)
13. rFactor 2 (2013)
14. The Crew (2014)
15. Mudrunner: A Spintires Game (2017)
16. Grid (2019)
17. Euro Truck Simulator 2 (2012)
18. Driver: San Francisco (2011)
19. RaceRoom Racing Experience (2013)
20. Split/Second: Velocity (2010)


https://www.topgear.com/car-news/ele...-decade-10-1#8

GT Sport is the pinnacle of console simulators and Gran Turismo 7 in all but name, with a handling model that’s intuitive and convincing and a structure that borrows the best bits from real life racing.





GT haters in this moment →



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I know it burns you deep but just put salt on it troll


And still it has nothing to do with the thread.
 

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Oh I know the run around, they don't like nearly matching ToD, they don't like noon, everything is a conspiracy theory, they like to amp up morning and evening shots because they're dark, hide details and overblow lighting highlights and shadows.

I know their game, it's toddler level.
Look how they tryna derail the thread again wich they fail AGAIN lol. They are soo blind they can't see the nr1 in the list they post smh, whe are dealing with blind people really i told this last year also. They have some weird vision where they see different things that whe don't see, delusional fucks.
 

Driver86

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Still seeking outside validation are we? Well in that case.


1 Forza Horizon 4 ARCADE
2 Mario Kart 8 ARDCADE
3 Gran Turismo Sport SIM

GTS is the best console sim of the last 10 years

the xbox users have their sim only at 10° position

I'm sorry... today is a very bad day for you and all the other GT haters :(

I know it burns you deep but just put salt on it troll


And still it has nothing to do with the thread.
GT sport at launch was the demo of what is now, my dear troll go home

PS

This forum is pure shit, there is a group of GT haters allowed to troll and offend in every single post and their friends mods tolerate this and protectd this situation

Posting here is only a waste of time

Fuck you!
 
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This user has been removed from the thread. You have complained about the quoted user many times in the past, yet you are regress into even more juvenile off-topic bait.
GTS is the best console sim of the last 10 years

the xbox users have their sim only at 10° position

I'm sorry... today is a very bad day for you and all the other GT haters :(



GT sport at launch was the demo of what is now, my dear troll go home
 

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i was not so impressed from laguna seca in GTS , its just not all about ligthing or textures , its more then that, i like that more hard more slippery control of cars in forza over this . in GTS you can allways do that good lap , and in cars with 200-300hp they wont even go sideways in corners much they just grip, and i think it should not be this way ... well if thats realistic then i want more fun , because its game and we need more fun , so i like forza way of handling cars more i guess.
 

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i was not so impressed from laguna seca in GTS , its just not all about ligthing or textures , its more then that, i like that more hard more slippery control of cars in forza over this . in GTS you can allways do that good lap , and in cars with 200-300hp they wont even go sideways in corners much they just grip, and i think it should not be this way ... well if thats realistic then i want more fun , because its game and we need more fun , so i like forza way of handling cars more i guess.
GTS operates with an unrealistic amount of traction and stability control, it makes driving almost infallible. Cars stick to the tarmac to a degree, but not like this.
 

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GTS operates with an unrealistic amount of traction and stability control, it makes driving almost infallible. Cars stick to the tarmac to a degree, but not like this.
yes and i think it was mostly this way with GT games i allways felt like in real life even 90hp car would be more fun then 300hp car in GT game.
 

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Edit: Ah Sunhilegend, makes sense now. Using fake edited gifs to represent gameplay 😂
I guess besides cherrypicking/staging, crop and contrast he's faking the lighting, reflections, ambient, suspension, traction, drifting and the whole response of the cars on track too...
 
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I guess besides cherrypicking/staging and contrast he's faking the lighting, suspension, traction and the whole response of the cars on track too...
Well hes admitted to running the gifs through after effects and photoshop to change the colours and lighting yes.

So what else has he fiddled with?

Point is theyre not an accurate representation of the game like his HZD gifs.
 

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Well hes admitted to running the gifs through after effects and photoshop to change the colours and lighting yes.

So what else has he fiddled with?

Point is theyre not an accurate representation of the game like his HZD gifs.
I get your point, but what you can do with a console video capture is very limited. You can do some filters, tweak a bit of colors and so, but it's not like a game's Photo Mode or Reshade on PC, where you can add GI and all sorts of advanced Depth based effects. Sunhilegend gifs stand out more because of staging and cherrypicking.

Anyway, what caught my attention more about those were the drifting and the realism of the car behavior on track. There is nothing fake about that.

 
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My gripe with racing games is that they mostly feel to sterile, I did not enjoy Forza Motorsport or GT...ever. Despite I bought multiple installments. My choice is Forza Horizon, because it's the only racing game which brings me the feels™...