It does cheapen the IP's image. Just like the last set of kinda shitty Metroids, or how a lot of spinoffs can cheapen the image of any IP (Final Fantasy is a good example).
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Nintendo Land Minigames Unveiled (Screens)
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It does cheapen the IP's image. Just like the last set of kinda shitty Metroids, or how a lot of spinoffs can cheapen the image of any IP (Final Fantasy is a good example).
I really don't agree with that at all. If you see Nintendo Land as somehow cheapening the properties it involves, then you've made a mistake in raising them up on an untouchable pedestal.
It's nothing but a way to add some familiar charm to a series of mini-games.
Hell, even if the mini-games were bad, it would fare far better in that regard than releasing actual poor entries in their respective series (a la Other M).
It's nothing but a way to add some familiar charm to a series of mini-games.
Hell, even if the mini-games were bad, it would fare far better in that regard than releasing actual poor entries in their respective series (a la Other M).
Nothing is being cheapened. At the end of the day, these are solid uses of the new controller, the graphics have a creative handmade aesthetic backed by some appealing tech, and they're all integrated into a theme park where both lesser-known and ultra-popular, well-respected franchises (Mario, Zelda, etc) are represented. It cheapens nothing because they're quality individual efforts made greater being part of a whole that includes marquee names like Mario.
However... I don't think these individual minigames will do much as "bridge" titles. I think they're fine by themselves, but many are so far removed from the basic gameplay of their respective franchises that they will do little more than make certain brand names more familiar. But perhaps that alone is enough to pique interest in, say, Pikmin 3 when it rolls around.
However... I don't think these individual minigames will do much as "bridge" titles. I think they're fine by themselves, but many are so far removed from the basic gameplay of their respective franchises that they will do little more than make certain brand names more familiar. But perhaps that alone is enough to pique interest in, say, Pikmin 3 when it rolls around.
SniperHunter
Banned
is this Nintendo's answer to home? Or is this a mini games collection?
That won't happen either.
Yeah, while I don't think NL cheapens these franchises, it definitely won't sell people on them, either. In Smash Bros., you play as the actual characters, with actual moves, using actual items in actual stages from their respective game series. In NL, you get some of the aesthetic... and some of the sound (like the remixed Dark World theme in Battle Quest)... and some of the gameplay motifs, like bow and arrows in Zelda... but on the whole it's something else entirely. It's not meant to capture the imagination in the same way.
But don't get me wrong: NL looks awesome. Definitely the coolest minigame collection Nintendo has released in quite some time. Definitely the most aesthetically appealing, too. Just don't expect it to act as a "brand ambassador" in the way Smash did. Especially as it's not bundled with the basic set and will be seen by only a fraction of the people who saw Wii Sports.
I got my NTSC Wii the week after launch and Wii Sports came in a cardboard sleeze. I doubt they changed it that quickly.
I wish that devs had learned in the Wii generation that if you're going to make a mini-game collection, implement a relatively small number of highly polished games with some replay value, instead of just shoving in dozens of shitty games into the same package.
Nintendo Land is a mini-game pack I can get behind.
Nintendo Land is a mini-game pack I can get behind.
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
Really? That's odd.
the latter, only with actually somewhat interesting games for a change.
I´m betting Nintendoland will recieve very, very high scores in reviews. Can´t see anything else happen. It has the potential to really sell the system until the end of the launch window.
As far as content, i think they outdid themselves. I have invested more hours into Wii Sports bowling and tennis than in SS and Goldeneye combined and if they have even the slightest amount of rewards/achievements or medals in this game, I shall be stuck in Nintendoland until my mid 30s....It seems like a really packed game.
As far as content, i think they outdid themselves. I have invested more hours into Wii Sports bowling and tennis than in SS and Goldeneye combined and if they have even the slightest amount of rewards/achievements or medals in this game, I shall be stuck in Nintendoland until my mid 30s....It seems like a really packed game.
The Mii theme-park concept is pretty clear, so I don't think it's going to lower the value of any IPs. But I guess if the games suck, it COULD lower the value of the Nintendo brand in general. But that Metroid Blast game is actually a clever way to reboot the Metroid multi-player concept, without cheapening the Metroid series.
I just realized I don't see a Kirby game and that's really surprising. Thought they'd do a Star Fox one too.
I just realized I don't see a Kirby game and that's really surprising. Thought they'd do a Star Fox one too.
"Set"? One doesn't make a set.
I think if the game does catch on it will certainly raise awareness of some franchises. Most of this games show gameplay characteristics of their respective main titles, like samus morph ball or pikmin commands. I could totally see customers showing interest in future iterations of this titles if they enjoy the attractions.
I have to ask about these bolded parts. I thought there was only one bad Metroid of late?
And Final Fantasy's spin-offs are so radically different from one another that it seems odd to me that you could say they all cheapen the image of the IP. Maybe Dirge of Cerberus was bad, but Type-0 was good, and Crystal Chronicles and especially Tactics were very good for it. I mean, how does one lump Tactics, Crystal Chronicles, Dirge of Cerberus, Dissidia and Theatrhythm all into the same boat when they all play radically different from one another?
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The only thing I don't like so far is that game configurations are uneven - some games are only single player, some only multiplayer. I think it would have been best if all 12 supported single or multiplayer thus leaving nobody out from enjoying them. It's that kind of inconsistent presentation that hurts a package.
Aside from that, I think there's way too much fannish cynism and hostility directed at this thing by many. Yo vidoegames and all that. This package is going to 'devalue' or, lord above 'insult' absolutely nothing. It's a Nintendo celebration. Jeeze.
The games look like a good evolution of the microgame concept started in a few of the Wii collections, but turned into ever so slightly meatier experiences. There is value in a collection of arcade style games. The trick is that a lot of the classic arcade games actually have some real depth to them and longterm playability - it's just their presentation that is simple and accessible. I'm hoping it's a balance that is struck by the games in this project.
Aside from that, I think there's way too much fannish cynism and hostility directed at this thing by many. Yo vidoegames and all that. This package is going to 'devalue' or, lord above 'insult' absolutely nothing. It's a Nintendo celebration. Jeeze.
The games look like a good evolution of the microgame concept started in a few of the Wii collections, but turned into ever so slightly meatier experiences. There is value in a collection of arcade style games. The trick is that a lot of the classic arcade games actually have some real depth to them and longterm playability - it's just their presentation that is simple and accessible. I'm hoping it's a balance that is struck by the games in this project.
Just that fast my opinion of Nintendo Land goes from not caring and happy it's a pack in for the deluxe version I'm getting (to hold me over until my games arrive in the mail) to actually being excited and very interested in playing now. Especially since the horde like mode in Metroid Blast has a decent number of levels by itself. I assume the other attractions are like this as well with different modes having several levels.
The single player aspect of the game was THE biggest concern for me. The focus on multiplayer and no talk of single player is what shaped my opinion of this game. That it's more single player then multiplayer greatly changes things for me.
I don't see why anyone would want to use the stylus on the gamepad to play these games. We finally get an HD Nintendo console so we can play on/view a DS screen? The girl playing the balloon game appears to be looking almost solely at the gamepad.
The games do look fun, however!
The games do look fun, however!
if you've only seen the single player games, I can understand how one might get that impression
they still look pretty awesome though, even so.
It looks like block fort from mk64, aka best mk battle level of all time! I federally want to try that game.
zerodayPopbot
Member
Not the Pikimin I was hoping to play at launch, but still, this looks good, and as a whole Nintendo Land is looking like my fav launch title after Mario.
hah yeah. my first thought too
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Am I the only one that thinks this stuff looks boring as hell?
How can the F-Zero minigame not have multiplayer? Seems like a rather obvious combination.
TDLink
Member
This also seems bizarre to me.
I don't think they explicitly said "single-player only", it was more "designed for one player but allowing for other people to interact" or some other flowery thing which probably just means "games that are fun for people to watch you play on the big screen".
Really, though. F-Zero without multiplayer? C'mon, Shiggy.
I haven't watched the Pikmin clip yet but all the others definitely support 4/5 players.
TDLink
Member
2-5 I believe for all of them though for some it lessens the experience with only 2 instead of 3.
For example, Mario Chase you would only have one toad chasing Mario...kind of obvious who wins that.
For Metroid Blast though they actually demoed it with just one person as a "Samus" and one in the gunship and it worked perfect since that game is cooperative.
In Pikmin Adventure it will be one as Olimar and one as a Pikmin but that will also work since multiple Pikmin aren't really required; both players will just play separate roles.
Its the opposite to me, fuck local multiplayer.
AdventureRacing
Member
Thought this game was going to be garbage but i'm turning around on it. The last week or so i've been very impressed by pretty much everything nintendo is showing.
Local multiplayer to me is at the very core of gaming and is essentially gaming at its best. The day local MP goes away i will become a PC only gamer.
Local multiplayer to me is at the very core of gaming and is essentially gaming at its best. The day local MP goes away i will become a PC only gamer.
I'd bet that this game will be seeing DLC minigames in the future as more games from their respective franchises start to come out.
Someone should have told Nintendo these things before they made Smash Bros. then.
Why wouldn't it? The only way Smash Bros. acts as a brand ambassador is aesthetically. You can't really appreciate a character in Smash Bros. like you can in their own stories because the characters are too out of context to allow for that. And the moveset doesn't accurately represent the gameplay style of the games they come from WHATSOEVER. So the only appeal to a franchise that Smash Bros. offers is "look how cool this character is" with no understanding of the game they come from.
NintendoLand is the opposite side of the same coin, making the hallmark about a simpler aspect of the gameplay from those franchises, rather than just an aesthetic hallmark.
Boil down Mario, and what is it? Running and jumping. So they made a mini-game about that.
Boil down Metroid, what is it? Running and shooting. So they made a mini-game about that.
Boil down Zelda, what is it? Medieval weapon fighting and puzzles. So they made a mini-game about that.
Of course, then there's things like Animal Crossing... you can't convey Animal Crossing's gameplay scope in a mini-game, so they just did something fun that borrows elements of the gameplay (collecting things out of trees and on the ground) and built a game around it. And not sure what they were thinking about with Donkey Kong.
But for the series listed above, NintendoLand does more to attract people to new types of gameplay than Smash Bros. EVER will.
SHIELD Pose is in Game & Wario though
Some impressions from NWR on Metroid Blast, really makes the game sound sweet. It's always the minor touches
So gives you a reason to pick the ship in this mode.
And nice balance between being so powerful and weak when blasted down.
Also screen of death-match
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressions/31750
Just read this article, they say Metroïd is awesome. Can't wait for other impressions.SHIELD Pose is in Game & Wario though
Some impressions from NWR on Metroid Blast, really makes the game sound sweet. It's always the minor touches
So gives you a reason to pick the ship in this mode.
And nice balance between being so powerful and weak when blasted down.
Also screen of death-match
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressions/31750
They have impressions of Mario Chase, which they call awesome
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressions/31720
And Pikmin Adventures, which they call.. amazing
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressions/31717
chertipros
Member
Wow, the screenshots in the OP look really good