Dump the tablet, $199 price, release new zelda and 3d mario.
Bam.
20 million sold overnight.
LOL no.
Dump the tablet, $199 price, release new zelda and 3d mario.
Bam.
20 million sold overnight.
But, you can already do that.Since they need to rewrite the OS to make it less awful, why not add the pro controller or wii remote to control the UI?
Since they need to rewrite the OS to make it less awful, why not add the pro controller or wii remote to control the UI?
Redesign the system, change the logo so that the U part is not ugly and amateur looking and at the same the Wii part is less noticeable. That should help the marketing.
LOL no.
The only way you could ditch the Gamepad is to completely relaunch the console. It DEFINES the Wii U.
It's a $150 albatross hanging around the Wii U's neck. The system won't sell for over $199 and it won't hit $199 without taking a huge loss or dropping the tablet.
Ok, so what's wrong with relaunching a failing system?
ouch.
Pointless.
Changing the name. Dropping the gamepad. Anything like that does nothing and shouldn't be done.
Clear and simple marketing will do away with any confusion as to what the system is. This has not been and for that reason alone heads should roll at Nintendo. Then games, games, and more games from Nintendo along side clear and simple marketing of the games will sell the system to people.
Nintendo needs a DS-lite turnaround. Have 3D Mario U, Mario Kart U, Windwaker HD, Wii Sports U, and a more attractive (to the eyes) console/pad ou this holiday season for $250 with NintendoLand installed.
I know it sounds drastic, but they need drastic. Hopefully Nintendo has something along those lines planned for this holiday season.
For the 3DS the games would actually look better without 3D. It would free up resources.I wonder how the 3DS and Wii U would have turned out without 3D and the tablet. Probably the same games but much cheaper systems.
I'm struggling to think of any major partnerships Nintendo has made with Western brands that would lead you to believe that.
I mean, if Nintendo was all about major partnerships, why isn't Sing Party the ultimate karaoke machine, with a huge selection of songs freely available? They could do a partnership with Apple - like this song you just sang? Buy it on the iTunes store with your Wii U iTunes App!
Look at TVii - they partnered with a bit player, that apparently hasn't updated the app to fix the problems in the US release, and it's not even released yet in the UK. It's still not working with DVR's or Netflix.
Moral of the story: Nintendo stinks at partnerships.
Not every game uses the Tablet as an essential aspect even as things are though. Many games likely could be easily redesgined to eliminate it.Its pretty much too late to drop the tablet considering how many games are in development 1st party wise
and not everyone would patch games because 3rd party sales have been so bad.
Dump the tablet, $199 price, release new zelda and 3d mario.
Bam.
20 million sold overnight.
And then what? No more sales after that? Because you basically described the Gamecube...
I never said they should change the name, because that's not something they could do that easily. This is what I meant:
Right now gamecube sales would be a huge improvement.
And no, i didn't say there wouldn't be anymore sales. Overnight was just an exaggeration of quick sales.
Has anybody actually bought a Wii U for the tablet? Specifically for the tablet? My only interest in the system is for HD Nintendo games. The tablet does nothing for me except inflate the initial cost of the system.
Once you use the Gamepad enough, you understand why it's integral to the console. This is why Wii U owners are rather adamant about it.Not at first but now after using Off Tv play is pretty much a big factor on what games I get.
that would not help
As long as that Wii is in the front of the U people would still assume it is a add on called the U tablet for Wii
Wii should be removed entirely or nothing will change.
It's a $150 albatross hanging around the Wii U's neck. The system won't sell for over $199 and it won't hit $199 without taking a huge loss or dropping the tablet.
Ok, so what's wrong with relaunching a failing system?
I said this before launch! Release a WiiU as Wii 2 and make pad optional. You guys really can't see the elephant here? Third party devs and more to the point publishers - don't wanna make a game that isn't cost-easy to port between HD consoles. Next gen Xbox & ps3 development is rumored to be easy as easy can be for devs. They will not be making concurrent releases on wiiu if the game is even possible to dumb down to wiiu specs. And then your asking them to add pad functionality? To a comparatively non-existent user base?
You're right. The issue is value.It's more like $75 to Nintendo directly.
Your assertions about it not selling due to price is a bit silly. It's not about price. It's about value. Nintendo has a value-perception problem. It doesn't require a reboot, relaunch, rebrand, or redesign. It requires software. It requires feature expansion. It's failing because they haven't yet developed value-rich support around the system.
It's more like $75 to Nintendo directly.
Your assertions about it not selling due to price is a bit silly. It's not about price. It's about value. Nintendo has a value-perception problem. It doesn't require a reboot, relaunch, rebrand, or redesign. It requires software. It requires feature expansion. It's failing because they haven't yet developed value-rich support around the system.
Dump the tablet, $199 price, release new zelda and 3d mario.
Bam.
20 million sold overnight.
Please don't put this man in charge of any company or nation.
HMV are selling it for £199 with Nintendo Land and Zombi U! Seriously considering getting one.
I would really like to have been a fly on the wall at Nintendo from 2008 onwards.
"We need to plan a successor to the Wii".
"I'm tiiiiiiired, can't we do it tomorrow?"
I'm waiting for the premium to hit £150 bundled with NSBU and Nintendo Land.Better deal than you guys were getting.... about on par with what they are selling for in the USA. I'm not on board with the current USA prices, so I guess perhaps it is a relative thing, since the consoles normally cost more over there.
You could always wait and see. I think Nintendo is going to be launching some bitching bundles for £250... or even £200.... but only time will tell.
Of course if it gets cheaper in Europe... then perhaps the sales in the USA will take an even greater hit?
Personally, I think the marketing and the name (causing confusion as to its distinction from its predecessor) are bigger barriers than lack of games
Major partnerships? Who said anything about major partnerships?
You really think that's going to be the major upgrade to Wii Fit? You have a separate screen, a microphone, an upcoming community update - I have to assume they're going all in with partnerships with weightwatchers groups / group weight and fitness tracking with friends, and will advertise the shit out of it.
To most people, the tablet controller's value is lower than even a 360 controller.
Dumping the unwanted controller and lowering the price to $200 would give the system half a chance of living.
Not at first but now after using Off Tv play is pretty much a big factor on what games I get.
Not at first but now after using Off Tv play is pretty much a big factor on what games I get.
You do? I really don't. It doesn't matter what the fuck the name is if there's not a competent software library. It's not exactly rocket science.
Yeah I do agree that Nintendo are having trouble supporting the Wii U but I think it speaks more about their first forays into HD development rather than inability to support two platforms. Wii and DS did a mighty fine job co-existing with the both of them turning the Nintendo brand into a powerhouse and since the switch between GC and Wii was so minor they already had development tools they were used to. The whole "they can't support two platforms at once" argument doesn't convince me the slightest.
2 years of a Wii software drought should have been spent working on the new software for the Wii U but I'm inclined to believe that if all Nintendo's main teams have been busy doing games for the Wii U (and why shouldn't they?) then I think there ought to be a good line-up behind the scenes waiting to come out that's been held back on account of development issues.
..but if everyone wants off tv play..it really does mean Nintendo should dump the Gamepad.
There's no point in the Gamepad being any more than an add-on if dual screen play isn't used in any meaningful way.
If games aren't designed around the concept of using both screens..then bundling a second screen is ultimately a waste of money.
Honestly, this. Off-tv play should be required. Its the best thing about the gamepad, bar none.
From a retailing POV it does matter. As i said earlier in this thread, there are people who think this is just an add-on for the Wii like Wii Fit.
in hindsight I've have shipped a more powerful standard machine with a motion sensing pro controller, and had the tablet as a day one optional accessory for off-screen play, also supporting remoteplay via wifi (with added lag)
Considering their launch failure with Fire Emblem and Lego City Undercover, it seems to me that the western branches secretly want to see Nintendo in flames.