Guerrillas in the Mist
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I wonder if these "expert" analysts get their insights into the gaming industry from their teenage daughters telling them the "app store is soooo hot right now"?
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Not only are handhelds done for, CNET writer doesn't think Vita will come out in NA
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I wonder if these "expert" analysts get their insights into the gaming industry from their teenage daughters telling them the "app store is soooo hot right now"?
Phonomezer
Banned
July 2010: GAF: Kinect will bomb, Microsoft will leave the gaming industry.
Unfortunately not, according to one of the Iwata asks they wanted it as a system level feature but didn't have enough time. I'm hoping it makes if for WiiU though.
A big update for 3DS could do that, though some old games could get fucked in the process.
walking fiend
Member
haha, thizzzz iz zooo goood, zooo goooood.
WTF is this shit man, I mean, seriously what's wrong with them?!
Molly Wood, Tech Interests:
WTF is this shit man, I mean, seriously what's wrong with them?!
Molly Wood, Tech Interests:
ah, what?!
It will happen one day on iTV/Apple TV. The thing will come packaged with a controller one day I guarantee it. Then as diminishing returns really sets in most people won't be able to tell the difference between iPad 8 and PS5 (or won't care, which is almost there anyway) and that will be the end of the world as we know it.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
So, after being proven wrong by the 3DS, everyone who predicted the doom of all handhelds is just moving on to the Vita. Expected. I look forward to the goalposts moving once again after the Vita is successful.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Not involved? Try telling that to the media.
So the Vita will be ambassadored?
Dog Problems
Banned
Haha, I noticed that too. I'm hoping it's just an abbreviation for something else. Or it could be, "LOL I like something controversial, notice me!"
And if it isn't we should brace ourselves for years of having Vita being the butt end of jokes, and "I was right!!!!1111one" comments.
I'm sure Sony can come up with 20 old shitty games.
Mobile game developers aren't saying these things. Even the companies behind the phones aren't saying it. Only Analysts and the 'community', so these whole 'shovelware' claims just seem bitter.
Father_Brain
Banned
I expected to see Don Reisinger's name attached to this piece of idiocy, but then I remembered that he only predicts doom for Nintendo.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
There is plenty of bitterness coming from both sides of the argument. It's not like the people who hate phone games are the only ones bringing them up in these types of threads.
Pretty much but with a paid system.
Why? Sony has a pretty good library.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
There's three reasons I want to buy a Vita:
1. Games.
2. I appreciate the amount of effort Sony put into making this device, especially when compared to the seemingly mediocre effort put forth by Nintendo with the 3DS.
3. To prove analysts like this wrong.
1. Games.
2. I appreciate the amount of effort Sony put into making this device, especially when compared to the seemingly mediocre effort put forth by Nintendo with the 3DS.
3. To prove analysts like this wrong.
SneakyStephan
Banned
It's what's 'in' right now, so every two bit 'journalist' or random is trying to leech off it to get their 5 minutes of fame/hits/their own brand name mentioned.
I agree that it's getting really tiring.
People are such whores.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Not to imply anything nefarious, but I would prefer there was more transparency - in regards to reason - when mods/admins move/delete posts (and close/delete threads). I understand that explaining a thread move or deletion (or, alternatively, a post move/deletion) is an inability owing to software, but it takes all of about five seconds to post why you're closing a thread.
Edit: Edited to seem less world-ending.
We generally leave notes when we're locking a thread for any reason that isn't immediately obvious by looking at the thread. The real issue is that people who make bad enough threads to have them locked typically are so myopic that they don't get it. The biggest reasons threads are locked:
- Dupe (mod leaves note if users haven't already)
- Obviously inflammatory OP (OP typically juniored)
- OP derails own thread aggressively (OP typically juniored)
- Very old thread necro-bumped, thread locked to avoid confusion, often times new posts are split-bumped into new thread.
Last week of locked threads in gaming: Dupe, Necro-bump of thread that was no longer accurate, transitioning to new thread, inflammatory OP / dupe discussion, obviously terrible OP, dupe / thread immediately gone to shit, crazy necro-bump of troll thread. All of these reasons should be pretty obvious from a simple context read of the threads.
We don't delete threads except in very rare exceptions. Porn spam would be one. I've mercy-deleted a few threads when OPs have asked for them to be deleted or when personal information has been involved. I can't think of any in months and months.
Thread moves do have a "redirect" link thing.
Most of the time when a mod deletes a post it's either to remove links to piracy or porn or personal information, resolve a bad derail (mod will typically leave a note in this case), or deleting a double post. If a mod deletes their own post, it's normally just one of those things where a user would edit out the post and write "Edit: never mind, not worth it" but since we have the delete button, we bother to post it. Other mods can see deleted posts--nothing is ever permanently deleted--so you shouldn't view a post deletion as anything different than a post edit from your perspective. There's nothing sinister afoot.
It's pretty laughable that people think Apple would have to buy anyone off.
bgassassin
Member
D0)000oMMMm#EEe3D!!11!
Incendiary
Banned
All localized games will now be EU exclusive muhahahahaha
December 2012: Wii U is doomed; will be crushed by Mayans and Conspiracy theorists.
Most likely, due to the PS3 being a disaster we can't really tell.
My dad who hasn't touched a game since Goldeneye on N64 loves playing Angry Birds on his iPad. People who don't normally game love to play those small games and I would only play them while waiting at my doctor's office, but I'll always prefer full games on a handheld than small games on my phone. It really is a fad for people who don't normally game, but for me, it's just something to do when I'm bored and don't have anything else nearby to play.
As a hardcore gamer, I'll take a full game experience over a $0.99 one. It's just like having casual and hardcore gamers and nothing has changed for me. Do I think Vita is doomed simply because of the casual games? No. Will it have a harder time selling the Vita to people now than they did with the PSP? Yes, but if the games are there, then so are the hardcore gamers which is what the core of their market has always been.
Two classes of gamers. The casual market will obviously be bigger now and Sony needs to tap into that with the Vita, but hardcore gamers aren't going to give up on handheld gaming completely when they want big games still.
As a hardcore gamer, I'll take a full game experience over a $0.99 one. It's just like having casual and hardcore gamers and nothing has changed for me. Do I think Vita is doomed simply because of the casual games? No. Will it have a harder time selling the Vita to people now than they did with the PSP? Yes, but if the games are there, then so are the hardcore gamers which is what the core of their market has always been.
Two classes of gamers. The casual market will obviously be bigger now and Sony needs to tap into that with the Vita, but hardcore gamers aren't going to give up on handheld gaming completely when they want big games still.
thehypocrite
Member
fixed.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
This is all obviously a ploy to increase Japanese sales by making the Vita a collector's item. "Own a piece of history! Get the legendary cancelled Playstation, worth thousands on eBay!!!"
JosephManderley
Member
These "journalists" have to do something to earn their latest freebie iGadget and invite to the next Apple love-in.
Because that worked for PSX, and PSPgo lol
The Bookerman
Member
The hell!!!! What is gamestop gonna do with my preorder money!!!
They get iPad 3's early for each article they write I believe.
30% chance i kept my pogs from the previous comeback. I'm ready Pog-GAF.
Also, obligatory " Sony saving you the trouble of canceling your pre-orders" comment.
I think a danger is the growth of opinion pieces due to blogs etc.
*news* articles should be fact checked and held accountable for errors etc.
But the plethora of blogs seems to give everyone a voice. While that's great, I think there is a point where a large media organisation stops being a personal blog, and becomes a more formal editorial, and needs to be held to higher standards
CNET for instance, is a respected tech website for the mainstream. Stuff like this is misguided at best, and financially damaging at worst
*news* articles should be fact checked and held accountable for errors etc.
But the plethora of blogs seems to give everyone a voice. While that's great, I think there is a point where a large media organisation stops being a personal blog, and becomes a more formal editorial, and needs to be held to higher standards
CNET for instance, is a respected tech website for the mainstream. Stuff like this is misguided at best, and financially damaging at worst
The problem is that people keep pushing iOS gaming as this replacement for more traditional games on dedicated handhelds. If you're big on the whole 'bite-sized portable gaming' experience, that's great. To be fair, though, the stuff you find on the dedicated handhelds is deeper than the typical app store game - and it's the draw of those systems for those of us who are looking for that.
Personally, I like the whole 'console gaming on the go' approach that Sony took with the PSP, even though that earns it a lot of ridicule around here. I want to see the Vita do well for the same reason. That's my kind of gaming, and I don't want to see it squeezed out of the marketplace. I'm sick of hearing that it's inevitable that this is going to happen. The media and internet buzz surrounding new products really does seem to impact how they perform, too, which makes all this negative coverage even more irritating.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
The designers had different focuses. Nintendo was trying to create something with a good power to cost ratio that would be easy and inexpensive to develop for. I'm willing to bet that this approach was part of what attracted Capcom and Monster Hunter 4. Sony was trying to follow the PSP philosophy and create a miniature console with the kitchen sink thrown in; as a piece of technology I find it incredibly impressive. As a viable mass market device, I'm unconvinced.
I think the $1-2 games are great e.g angry birds/cut the rope/doodle jump. They are unique and were clearly built for the platform in mind. Games such as nova, dungeon defenders, GTA III etc are horrible on the other hand. They are console-like experiences that are ruined by touch controls. A while ago I saw the GTA III mobile thread which praised the controls. Well since then I've since bought it.....and and it controls horribly. In my opinion mobile games have their strengths and weaknesses. Developers should focus on those strengths instead (angry birds/doodle jump). I'm not saying they can't make games like Riptide GP/Infinity Blade. Why wouldn't they? they're high quality successes. However, for me these types of games drain my all important battery life so end up being played at home with a charger near by...which kinda makes my phone not so portable anymore.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
So this is what bored tech and finance writers do on a slow news week at home with the folks, huh?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Oh yeah!? Well there are more good titles on DS or PSP than iOS! Do you see what I did there?