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Official Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix thread
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Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
turk128 said:
They aren't tracing the original pixels, not by a long shot.
That's how they do the sprite work. A whole bunch of detail that wasn't there is been added by them. Where they can afford to take variations they do; Notice how the HD sprite has hair that's toussled differently from the original.
The muscles are formed differently in the arm, and the wristguard has a different design/position.
But then, this is GAF. You'll get guys without a clue coming in talking shit, like they always do.
So what they are basically doing is a coloring book style tracing... then filling in with details that are just off (don't know why you keep on denying this), with colors that are far from flattering.Crayon Shinchan said:
I'm coming at this from an aesthetic point of view and, aesthetic, it's wanting.
Xenon said:
What were you expecting? A fully fledged prequal to streetfighter4? Your expectations are way too high.
What's worse is after all this overanal analysis of the sprites, you're all going to have a massive bitchfest when the game comes out and you find out the animation is choppy, the sound effects are ripped straight out of SFIIHF and it doesn't support true widescreen.
I'm going to break it to you now, STHD is not going to be spec****ingtacular. Its just ST with new sprites. Its just an experiment. Its going to priced as a budget title. And I myself, cannot ****ing wait for this to come out. You haters can keep on hating, I'm gonna enjoy the game for what it is.
QFT...the game is ST.... when it comes down to it, its not gonna look incredible or anything, they arent adding frames everything is being kept the same, but its being released at budget price as they have a minimal budget to work on this anyways. Capcom are the ones that made this choice.spoon! said:
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Jirotrom said:
I'm almost done inking her, she should be done in an hour or so
EDIT: Holy crap that Akuma pic is huge, resize plz
MickeyKnox
Member
Anyone want to toss me some original sprites, I'd like to take a shot at this.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
Raging Spaniard said:I'm almost done inking her, she should be done in an hour or so
can you upload the sprite you're tracing from for her?
I contemplated doing Morrigan after cammy, but was too tired when I finished up last night.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
MickeyKnox said:
Try the original Chun-Li... that way you'll get to compare it to Udon when they release theirs.
HD remix size is 400% original size btw.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Crayon Shinchan said:
Sure thing. I stretched my drawing a little bit though, since the sprite was squashed a tad, so it wont match perfectly ... but eh, I'm having fun.
If you're looking for sprites, Im gonna recommend this new app I found called Google. The magic resides within making an image search, typing the name of the character you want, press space then type "sprite", press Enter. Crazy.
One of the best place for the sprites (and character art in general)MickeyKnox said:
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters/chunli.html
Near bottom of page, there's also 2 pages of anigif of her in motion for reference.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
Raging Spaniard said:
Hur. I was more wondering which exact frame you were redrawing her from.
â Narayan
Member
Yeah, I hate this shit. The hugest offender, for me, is when someone says that God Hand is a shitty game, when they haven't even played it. HURRRR, dillwads.Crayon Shinchan said:
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Crayon Shinchan said:
Oops, my bad.
Im basing it off the one on the top left:
http://sdb.drshnaps.com/sheets/Capcom/Other/Darkstalkers/MorriganVS.png
(and Im changing those child bearing hips a bit, holy crap)
It's a great place, perfect for me since I'm more a fan of the art/animation of SF and how it evolved over the years. Being surrounded by friends who were pro-level SF players really does make you appreciated being an observer more than a player.bigben85 said:that site is awesome! I remember all those artwork I used to love in my childhood. Good job posting it!
BTW great sketch, love the loose style (I appreciated the larger scan so much more). Very much reminds me of SF style character rough sketches found in Capcom art books. By any chance were you at Fanime? Saw an artist with similar sketch style in the artists' alley there.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Jirotrom said:
Oh dont worry, she could still give birth to a grown man
Ether_Snake
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Raging Spaniard said:Yes, because "the actual artist" would HIMSELF redraw every single frame for the whole game.
Come on now, thats not how games work.
They COULD have setup the Alpha style guide and go for that, but in those Alpha illustrations the awesome lies on the COLOR WORK which Capcom USA has already acknowledged that eventually they would like to get to that l;evel of color detail.
I dont defend these guys much, but I give them props for trying this out, see if it sticks and if it does, then maybe go insane for the next project. Rock on.
Sounds like fun, I'll give it a shot
No way, what looks like crap with the HD remix is the line art, it sucks. The SF Alpha were great. They just had to take that route, hire an actual Japanese artist who is good at that stuff and who can match the style. But they are not doing that. It looks wrong, it doesn't look like Capcom's work, it looks like some outsourced work made by people who obviously have never done animes before.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
Ether_Snake said:
Stop talking shit when you don't know shit. Seriously. You're not going to take the top gif I posted (i.e. SF2 Chun-Li) and turn it into the bottom one (SFA2 Chun-Li) no matter how high you pump the res. Because that's what the Udon guys have to deal with.
As much as I too think it's wrong... the problem isn't because they didn't get a Japanese studio to do it. There's plenty of Westerners who can do great anime art (and some with trully awesome hybrid art). The problem probably is the budget and, kind related, time.Ether_Snake said:
tahrikmili
Member
bigben85 said:
Nice but he sorta looks like he has a beer belly
Since everyone's started pasting their art here's a Ryu by me.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21352747/
MickeyKnox
Member
Thanks, I'll work on it after I get back from Mocca.Crayon Shinchan said:
Try the original Chun-Li... that way you'll get to compare it to Udon when they release theirs.
HD remix size is 400% original size btw.
tahrikmili said:Nice but he sorta looks like he has a beer belly
Since everyone's started pasting their art here's a Ryu by me.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21352747/
ok lets continue with the street fighter fan art here is something i did a long while ago
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/43457943/?qo=8&q=by:tribalx24&qh=sort:time+-in:scraps
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
He's all D<turk128 said:
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Ok, heres my quick-as-shit Morrigan sprite remake. Took longer than I wanted to and, like I mentioned before, changed some stuff due to my own personal taste (which may very well suck)
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
bigben85 said:cool. that must have taken quite a while with all the coloring
I do think the outside leg/thigh should appear larger than the inside leg, or equal to.
was it difficult to do?
Thanks! I disagree about the leg, but whatev, no big deal.
Difficulty wise: It depends on the artist, for me the hardest and most time consuming things are figuring out the poses and the layout, so if you already give me that, the rest comes much easier (hence this only taking 2 to 3 hours from sketch to finish). This was also good practice for me to practice inking digitally, so its a good exercise, might do some more in this vein, actually.
I want to join the party !
This is a redrawing (a recoloring more precisly) of the SNK vs Capcom Chaos vega sprite i did long time ago. But anyway, it would be too long for anybody to do a lot of this.
And the fact that modern snk sprite are already higly detailed helped a lot.
I also did a Chun-li Third Strike one but i don't find it anymore ^^'
This is a redrawing (a recoloring more precisly) of the SNK vs Capcom Chaos vega sprite i did long time ago. But anyway, it would be too long for anybody to do a lot of this.
And the fact that modern snk sprite are already higly detailed helped a lot.
I also did a Chun-li Third Strike one but i don't find it anymore ^^'
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
Morrigan given the Crayon treatment.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
That is shit hot.orioto said:I want to join the party !
This is a redrawing (a recoloring more precisly) of the SNK vs Capcom Chaos vega sprite i did long time ago. But anyway, it would be too long for anybody to do a lot of this.
And the fact that modern snk sprite are already higly detailed helped a lot.
I also did a Chun-li Third Strike one but i don't find it anymore ^^'
