If they're on the disc, finished, and you're still charging me for them despite the purchase I've already made, you have released an incomplete product and you don't deserve my money. I don't give a damn what the reason is. They pulled this shit with a lot of their other games. Does anyone not forget the "DLC" they had for Resident Evil 5 that Capcom outright lied about and claimed it was made separate from development, not on the disc, and all it took to play it was an unlock key?.
I'm going to make a "best pizza" voting thread. I hear mods like polls. As much as thread derailments at least, I'm sure. Pizza poll sounds like a gaming side topic, right? Don't wanna post in the wrong forum.
I'm going to make a "best pizza" voting thread. I hear mods like polls. As much as thread derailments at least, I'm sure. Pizza poll sounds like a gaming side topic, right? Don't wanna post in the wrong forum.
They'll be busy making Ultimate Darkstalkers IV by then.Honestly would be shocked if there isn't a super SFXTekken Game in 9-15 months if this sells well.
I don't care how many times they say there won't be. I don't fucking trust Capcom anymore.
Honestly would be shocked if there isn't a super SFXTekken Game in 9-15 months if this sells well.
I don't care how many times they say there won't be. I don't fucking trust Capcom anymore.
Looking at how much it costs to do patches and updates, it's probably a cost cutting measure to have some of the assets on disc. I just can't see the huge deal it is when all we buy is really a license to use the software. It's been that way since forever. I guess some are being made painfully aware of that during this console generation.
Looking at how much it costs to do patches and updates, it's probably a cost cutting measure to have some of the assets on disc. I just can't see the huge deal it is when all we buy is really a license to use the software. It's been that way since forever. I guess some are being made painfully aware of that during this console generation.
I'm going to make a "best pizza" voting thread. I hear mods like polls. As much as thread derailments at least, I'm sure. Pizza poll sounds like a gaming side topic, right? Don't wanna post in the wrong forum.
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if the board as a whole wasn't so in tune with the cost, time and development involved in making video games. Maybe there would be less sympathetic posts towards the favor of the developers or publishers in cases such as this.
If you remember the RE5 fiasco, you remember that it was actually an 11mb file + a game patch, not just a random 100kb file to unlock the mercenaries stuff. While minor, not everything was included on the game disc...
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if the board as a whole wasn't so in tune with the cost, time and development involved in making video games.
Not everything they are working on during development, just you know, the stuff that is actually ON THE DISC i buy they later try to sell me as "downloadable content".
Looking at how much it costs to do patches and updates, it's probably a cost cutting measure to have some of the assets on disc. I just can't see the huge deal it is when all we buy is really a license to use the software. It's been that way since forever. I guess some are being made painfully aware of that during this console generation.
Patches cost $$$ because it costs money to pay the people to make them.
I think this is straight up bullshit, but there's not really much we can do about it.
What a bummer, right off the heels of finishing the fantastic RE:R I'm met with this slap in the face.
This isn't DLC. DLC is "extra" stuff released for sale or free after a game has been released. The characters are on the disc already, there's nothing extra for sale, they're locking you out of something you paid for. Very few companies do this and they are considered scum.
This isn't DLC. DLC is "extra" stuff released for sale or free after a game has been released. The characters are on the disc already, there's nothing extra for sale, they're locking you out of something you paid for. Very few companies do this and they are considered scum.
Is there any reason I can't buy the game, j-tag a 360, then unlock the characters already on the disc? I mean, since people are using the characters without the dlc actually being released it means they aren't just pirating the dlc and are unlocking content already on the disc. I barely use live anymore so I'm curious about this.
While I was the anti on disc DLC guy on the first page, I have to say the points people made were pretty true. You are told what you are getting before you pay, if you agree that what you are offered is worth $60, you're not really getting fucked.
The ones against that mold are the better ones. Rockstar and Bethesda are good examples of this. You can tell by the sheer size of the content it was made post-disc printing.
Is there any reason I can't buy the game, j-tag a 360, then unlock the characters already on the disc? I mean, since people are using the characters without the dlc actually being released it means they aren't just pirating the dlc and are unlocking content already on the disc. I barely use live anymore so I'm curious about this.
The ones against that mold are the better ones. Rockstar and Bethesda are good examples of this. You can tell by the sheer size of the content it was made post-disc printing.
the "content" is the download key. You want to play semantics with what the word "content" means? At the end of the day, you were never going to get these extra characters for free. That was decided long ago. It's an added revenue stream for these companies. By all accounts it's planned far ahead of time as such. Most likely if it wasn't around you'd just be getting the same games we've always been getting and these extra characters would never exist. I don't' see the big deal. If you don't like the game, don't buy it or don't buy the DLC, but having extra content for people that love the games they play is not a bad thing to me. If you would have told me back in the day I could have paid $15 for a few extra characters in SF2 or Mortal Kombat, or some new maps in Goldeneye, 6 months after the game came out, I would have thought it was awesome.
I guess Valve are doing it all wrong then.
The ones against that mold are the better ones. Rockstar and Bethesda are good examples of this. You can tell by the sheer size of the content it was made post-disc printing.
I hope Nintendo follows them when it comes to DLC. I don't want Fire Emblem to be an unfinished game that I have to pay even more for to unlock stuff on the cartridge. What they had going on with the Wifi "DLC" on DS was amazing, though. It unlocked stuff in the game, but you never once needed to pay for it.
I can tell this content was made after a disc was manufactured because of the size of the content and because of having seen some content in my time.
lol. I get it now. Some of you just want game companies to treat you like naive children?
Heh, really though, the size of the content is quite clear that it's not on the disc. It's not something less than 20 MB or anything. And especially considering no hackers have found that stuff and were able to play with it before the game launches.
I hope you too don't think I mean "this is huge content, therefore it's really DLC!". It's more of looking at when it comes out, the size of the content (in filesize), and what's been revealed previous to its release. Final Fantasy IV: The After Years was a game on WiiWare that had about 75% of the game as downloadable after the initial download, but all of that was stuff unlocked with unlock keys. If a pirate or a hacker is able to access all of that stuff before it's officially released, it's not actual DLC.
Hope I cleared up what I meant a little bit.
LuchaShaq said:Honestly would be shocked if there isn't a super SFXTekken Game in 9-15 months if this sells well.
I don't care how many times they say there won't be. I don't fucking trust Capcom anymore.
So did they say there's not gonna be a $40~$60 ultimate ver. for this game down the line?
You don't own the code, content, and asset to the game when you buy the game. We have never own them at all, all we own is the license to access the game contents and it doesn't have to be complete access. It's much like Windows OS such as Windows 7/Vista. Even though each Windows installation disc contains the whole software for Starter, Standard, Professional, and Ultimate... You don't get acess to all the features of Ultimate when you pay for Starter even thought they are on the same disc. You have to pay more for more stuff.
Most gamers over 20-25 these days just expect too much.