Noisepurge
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Playstation Plus Premium Service announced [S-CONF]
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MikeE21286
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TTP said:
Nope, didn't know one even existed yet
. I'll have to check it out after work. Still though, I'm thinking lots of people won't take the time (just like I hadn't)Philanthropist
Banned
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2010/06/23/playstation-plus-explained/
I guess it must have been posted already, but it looks like more full PS3 games are coming to the PSN store on a regular basis, at least one per month. The first ones are LittleBigPlanet and inFamous indeed, which can be bought by non-PS+ users as well, even though they cannot try them for an hour like PS+ subscribers.
LittleBigPlanet will be free for EU subscribers who choose the 1 year subscription, and they can keep the game after that period.
I guess it must have been posted already, but it looks like more full PS3 games are coming to the PSN store on a regular basis, at least one per month. The first ones are LittleBigPlanet and inFamous indeed, which can be bought by non-PS+ users as well, even though they cannot try them for an hour like PS+ subscribers.
LittleBigPlanet will be free for EU subscribers who choose the 1 year subscription, and they can keep the game after that period.
Winterblink
Member
I'm wondering if this will help ease the current costs for developers to put their content on PSN. I assume Sony's still charging content providers for the amount of download bandwidth their stuff is using up. If PS+ helps reduce or cut that cost for developers (hopefully making it more appealing for them to provide stuff for us) then that might be a positive (pun!) for me to actually pony up for this.
Still blown away about the whole "we'll take our free gifts back" part, when your subscription lapses. It's like this weird kind of give and take that is uniquely Sony.
Still blown away about the whole "we'll take our free gifts back" part, when your subscription lapses. It's like this weird kind of give and take that is uniquely Sony.
Winterblink said:
Why would they let you pay $50 for content estimated at over $200 and let you own it forever? That...that doesn't make sense.
Its not like you have to do it, I mean its all laid out for you. The terms and conditions are clear, you know the type of content you'll be getting and it either appeals to you or it doesn't.
Looking at this more it seems like nothing more than a con to sell DLC packs.
Getting wipeout HD free is alright but without the DLC its useless online. Zen pinball is also very DLC heavy with a ton of tables to buy.
In future months I expect they will probably put up the basic release of games like Pain and Super Star Dust HD that also have tons of DLC to buy.
Once people subscribe and buy DLC for games they are basically locked in unless they want to waste that money.
Getting wipeout HD free is alright but without the DLC its useless online. Zen pinball is also very DLC heavy with a ton of tables to buy.
In future months I expect they will probably put up the basic release of games like Pain and Super Star Dust HD that also have tons of DLC to buy.
Once people subscribe and buy DLC for games they are basically locked in unless they want to waste that money.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
What about people who already have said game they will give with subscription?
I have WipeOut (Day 1), say I get PSN+, they offer me WO (as a yearly member), lets say I don't resubscribe, WTF happens then?
I 'm not trying to be gloom and doom, but Sony really fucking hurts itself by not being definitely clear
They really need to come out and be like Oi, Fella!, want PSN+ this is what it offers, and in case of these scenarios here is what will happen
So simple, but no lets be vague, beat around the bush, give information sporadically through different news services be it leaks, rumors, etc.
I have WipeOut (Day 1), say I get PSN+, they offer me WO (as a yearly member), lets say I don't resubscribe, WTF happens then?
I 'm not trying to be gloom and doom, but Sony really fucking hurts itself by not being definitely clear
They really need to come out and be like Oi, Fella!, want PSN+ this is what it offers, and in case of these scenarios here is what will happen
So simple, but no lets be vague, beat around the bush, give information sporadically through different news services be it leaks, rumors, etc.
web01 said:
Wait what? Wipeout HD online is almost non-existant these days. DLC doesn't matter. Pinball really? You choose that DLC for yourself. The tables have nothing to do witht he game, they're just extras. (Cheap too). 95% of Pain's DLC is characters. Who cares? For anyone who has played Pain and tried to get those trophies, there is more than enough game in there for the plain vanilla version. SS HD really??? There are exactly 2 (!!! count em two!!) DLC packs for the game. A single player add-on and a co-op upgrade. The co-op sucks. Don't get it unless you want the trophy (why?). The single player is more understandable, but it's cheap too. I really think you're just grasping at straws to tear down a service you don't want. Your logic is extremely flawed.
GraveRobberX said:
Do you honestly think they will take your game back?? lol. Geez you do know there is a free number to call for customer service right? It's illegal from them to take away a product you bought. Your scenario will never happen.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
^
This is Sony after all, I may be there fan boy/in their camp, but I have been screwed/burned by them before
You never know
/tin foil hat
This is Sony after all, I may be there fan boy/in their camp, but I have been screwed/burned by them before
You never know
/tin foil hat
The service is probably alright for people who havent brought anything or very much from the psn store, if your a heavy psn user already you are basically gambling away money hoping you get some value out of it.
For $70 AUD I will pass, minis and LBP DLC discounts are not very compelling at all. If your a heavy user your going to have most of this stuff already. Wipeout HD and Zen pinball are two of the best selling games on psn as far as I know and if your a casual they trick is they want you to buy the DLC making the money back that way.
Another thing is having the full game trials add the trophies to your profile with no way or removing them will again encourage people to buy full version.
For $70 AUD I will pass, minis and LBP DLC discounts are not very compelling at all. If your a heavy user your going to have most of this stuff already. Wipeout HD and Zen pinball are two of the best selling games on psn as far as I know and if your a casual they trick is they want you to buy the DLC making the money back that way.
Another thing is having the full game trials add the trophies to your profile with no way or removing them will again encourage people to buy full version.
BattleMonkey
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Free games!
It's a scam!
It's a scam!
tirminyl said:
Actually I thought I read somewhere that the trophies will show on your local trophy list but they will not upload to the server or affect your public trophy level etc. There's probably something in FW3.40 that enables trophies from a locked trial game to be identified as such in the trophy list.
Ninja-Matic
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GraveRobberX said:
Erm... I don't see what's so hard to understand. Its written clearly that if you BUY something - even at discounted PSN+ prices - its yours forever. The freebies that are included with PSN+ are only active while your subscription is active.
I'm not too sur what's so hard to understand about that, honestly. Buy=keep. Subscription=only while active. Its no different than buying anything else or leasing anything else. Same business model for ownership :/
Goldrusher
Member
They don't explain "push demo" on the blog.TTP said:
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
This shit is confusing as hell (and I'm an idiot). I'm just going to wait until some GAFers have this for a month so they can clear up all the things that you supposedly get or don't get with this.
Either way, I'm pretty meh about the whole thing. Unless threads explodes and everyone loves it, I'm probably staying away. ESPN on 360 is really the only driving force for me to keep XBL. It would be nice is Sony got some "non-video game" content like that, maybe Hulu or something.
Either way, I'm pretty meh about the whole thing. Unless threads explodes and everyone loves it, I'm probably staying away. ESPN on 360 is really the only driving force for me to keep XBL. It would be nice is Sony got some "non-video game" content like that, maybe Hulu or something.
Itchy//Tasty
Member
What's depressing for me is that I AM interested in this, but I already own most of the stuff they're giving away. Every PS3 owner should have LBP and WipEout in the first place, although I guess this gives them no excuse now.
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Majine said:
speaking of that, is "Party chat" or havies Parties like XBL has, going to be a function of Plus or is that cross game chat going out to everyone?
Sorry I haven't been keeping up (also I'm an idiot). :lol
Loudninja said:
DLC is not locked to an account so this isnt any news really. For instance, If I got your account and DL all your DLC, I wouldnt be taking a slot on your 5 activations. I could deactivate + delete your account and still play your DLC for free. The thing is, all DLC is stored in the GAME folder which is mostly where updates/map packs/addons get saved so DLC just gets added to that place without any links to an account.
So if PSN+ offers free DLC, if you were to unsubscribe, you would keep all the DLC. No one can remove or deactive that stuff. (unlike themes...not sure about avatars)
Looks totally worth it to me. It's just over $4 a month... if one of the big games/dlc or two of the smaller items themes/avatars/minis strikes your fancy each month, you've gotten your money's worth.
So like, for me, month one, Killzone DLC gets me my money's worth, cause I don't have it. That DLC is $6, so I saved $2. Plus on top of that, I get a couple of minis and a PSOne game that might suck might be awesome, dynamic themes and avatars I never would have gotten otherwise, etc. etc. FOR FREE. And if they suck, I don't have to keep them. No loss.
(I have WipEout already, but I'd imagine that a lot of people don't, which makes the first month win by itself it's an awesome game).
So like, for me, month one, Killzone DLC gets me my money's worth, cause I don't have it. That DLC is $6, so I saved $2. Plus on top of that, I get a couple of minis and a PSOne game that might suck might be awesome, dynamic themes and avatars I never would have gotten otherwise, etc. etc. FOR FREE. And if they suck, I don't have to keep them. No loss.
(I have WipEout already, but I'd imagine that a lot of people don't, which makes the first month win by itself it's an awesome game).
So far:
-You rent 12 PSN games,24 minis , and 12 PS1 classics *for a year subscription*
-Premium avatars and dynamic themes each month * You keep these*
-Full Game Trials *including full PS3 games*-
-Automatic Downloads*Push demos, DLC ,etc*
-Discounts on PS store content *you keep whatever you buy of course*
-Free DLC
-Qore subscription *Does not include Europe for now*
-Free LBP*only for Europe and only the first month*
-Access to selected demos and beta trails
-A + next to your PSN id while subscribed
How can I forget the + sign?
-You rent 12 PSN games,24 minis , and 12 PS1 classics *for a year subscription*
-Premium avatars and dynamic themes each month * You keep these*
-Full Game Trials *including full PS3 games*-
-Automatic Downloads*Push demos, DLC ,etc*
-Discounts on PS store content *you keep whatever you buy of course*
-Free DLC
-Qore subscription *Does not include Europe for now*
-Free LBP*only for Europe and only the first month*
-Access to selected demos and beta trails
-A + next to your PSN id while subscribed
How can I forget the + sign?
badcrumble
Member
Best news out of this so far is that LBP will be going up on the PS Store. I'll totally download that, always wanted to just keep it on my hard drive.
Lagspike_exe
Member
Any chance Europe gets that EU edition of Qore...? I believe it's called FirstPlay.
brandonh83
Banned
badcrumble said:
Yeah. I was about to buy the GOTY edition but for whatever reason, something about LBP just seems more "right" as a sort of... program like Home or something. God that sounded dumb. It makes sense to me. :lol
MikeE21286
Member
Loudninja said:
WTF that's BS
SCEA blah blah blah
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
damn, 90 days minimum? i wonder how much lbp is gonna cost on the ps store. it's all i ever wanted, lbp on my hdd
Castle Doctrine
Member
Well they are offering a decent amount of content can't complain about that, even though you lose the games when you cancel. It's a crapshoot though on how good a month will be. I can't wait to see all the angry forum goers during a subpar month, you think people get mad now every week after the PSN update, just wait.
I'm also wondering if subscribers will actually buy less stuff because they're afraid they'll get it free eventually. Even so, it's guaranteed money for Sony and it'll probably even out in the end. Personally I'd buy it for a year and give it a shot, because I know what'll happen, there'll be early beta access for something good and I'll be pissed I didn't subscribe.
I'm also wondering if subscribers will actually buy less stuff because they're afraid they'll get it free eventually. Even so, it's guaranteed money for Sony and it'll probably even out in the end. Personally I'd buy it for a year and give it a shot, because I know what'll happen, there'll be early beta access for something good and I'll be pissed I didn't subscribe.
badcrumble
Member
I think for the PS4 Sony really ought to scrap Home but have LBP3 preloaded onto every hard drive, as well as some kind of LittleBigHome and LittleBigSports. Sackboy's a very good mascot for the company if they actually take advantage of it, and the LBP aesthetic is extremely appealing. Oh, and of course use a Sackboy as your avatar instead of a still image.brandonh83 said:
Yea, this is still big pass and a bit shady to me. I paid $25 for a year of Qore and got into a couple betas, had a couple exclusive demos and got Calling all Cars, that bowling game, Spyro and Syphon Filter and got to KEEP those games. I pay $25 more for PSN plus and get to "rent" the free old ass games they choose for me for the time of my sub andddd.....not much else difference? Seems like a step backwards for having to pay more. Oh wait, you get a special avatar icon so people know you like wasting your money:lol