ShockingAlberto
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Totodile was rad and my affection for Cyndaquil comes from choosing one, but there's no defending Chikorita.
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Totodile was rad and my affection for Cyndaquil comes from choosing one, but there's no defending Chikorita.
You should play Platinum and Black/White 1 or 2. Imo the best games of the series so far.
BW, or BW2 in my opinion. Anything further back really shows age wise now, especially with just how long battles and the menu system takes.
Chikorita is the starter real Pokemasters use.
BuggyDClown
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I never used chikorita but I wont deny its one of the best starter designs, hell one of the best designs period. Great evolutions too.
Evolutions for starters have been kinda ugly lately, esp for my water pokemon.
Evolutions for starters have been kinda ugly lately, esp for my water pokemon.
Well, that's a given. Although since FR/LG every game's had a post-story area with some non-native Pokemon and had plenty of ways of obtaining the old ones so I doubt you'll only be able to get 200.
And we've been able to transfer them all since the GBA games, the DS and 3DS are still compatible physically and electronically. There's no reason we wouldn't be able to transfer outside of them just being dickish about it.
But the last two were Samurott and Emploeon. Sure, Swampert being ugly I could see.. but not the God-like Emploeon.
Shadow2222
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Froakie looks awful, personally, but Chespin is possibly the cutest thing that I have ever seen.
ScraftyDevil
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Can't wait for these. I always get the "second" of the two games (Blue, Silver, Sapphire, Pearl, White) so Y it is. I do like Xerneas better than Yveltal (though Yveltal has been growing on me), so hopefully it'll be like GS where you can get both legendaries in one game.
I actually like these starters much more than last gen from a design perspective, but I'm a grass man, so Chespin all the way. Can't wait to see the evos.
I actually like these starters much more than last gen from a design perspective, but I'm a grass man, so Chespin all the way. Can't wait to see the evos.
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kittens
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Naw, I totally agree. I was thirteen when G/S came out, and even then I was disappointed. Cyndaquil is okay, but it's evolutions are so boring. I want my starters to be more unique. Totodile looks like a fucking Flintstones character, and only gets worse as it evolves. And yeah, like ShockingAlberto said, there's no excuse for Chikorita.
Also : People who always pick a starter of the same type are weird to me. I pick whichever one looks the coolest/cutest.
It's because I know my cute little Chimchar will evolve into god ugly Infernape. I can't look past that.
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kittens
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whatever, you like seel
Only those with bad opinions. Everybody knows Totodile will always be the best starter.
Ya'll suspect.
Gen II does that work, design wise. Competitively in the current meta, it takes a loss. Worst gen starters in that regard, besides Gen V maybe.
Gen 2 is my least favorite, as well. Extremely boring, but like you, I love my Scizor.
actually. yeah that sums it up nicely.
ScraftyDevil
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Sheer Force Feraligatr is really good, though. I'll take any excuse to use it!
If only it existed.
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kittens
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Yeah, Gen V wasn't so great, either. Snivy and Tepig are both just okay. Oshawatt... not so much. Gen IV is the best.
Also, I feel like I've had this same conversation ten times in the past 48 hours. I should probably stop checking this thread, lol.
we need more speculatin' and less reminiscin'
After the likes of Gyarados, Nidoking, Tyranitar, Lugia and Arcanine, you can only go downhill from there.
Hm. I'll look into it.
lol standard procedure for any Pokemon thread. We've gone through the OMG HYPE MAX phase, the Pokeart phase, the "my favorites" phase, and now the ____gen starters/ gen art sucks phase.
Holy nostalgia bomb!Since we we are getting closer to the Stadium games, will we see classic mini games?
I'm ready!
Bring it on.
UltimateIke
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I always wanted to play as a Kakuna, but it usually made me a Metapod. 
Aquamarine
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I always wanted to play as a Kakuna, but it usually made me a Metapod.
Metapod is always easier because you can more accurately time Harden. I always dominated with that little guy.
We're not going to see any minigames here, unfortunately.
Andrefpvs
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Since we we are getting closer to the Stadium games, will we see classic mini games?
I'm ready!
Bam, right in the long term memory!
ScraftyDevil
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I always wanted to play as a Kakuna, but it usually made me a Metapod.
I was like that with the wood-chopping game. I always got stuck with stupid Pinsir while my younger brother got to be Scyther :'<
Wait wait a second man, let's calm down here. I can't say I see this.
I can clearly see some sort of consistent "art style" throughout gen 1. Likewise I can see a different style, still consistent to that gen, in gen 2. And lastly, I can see a consistent style for gens 3, 4 and 5.
Forget quality/subjective opinion for a second and tell me if I'm wrong or not.. I feel like if you give me a new Pokemon for either of these art styles, the most precise answer I could give you will be either "gen 1", "gen 2" or "gens 3+". I couldn't tell you if a Pokemon will be from gen 3 or gen 5 without prior knowledge.
If you agree with that, then I think it's very logical that these different styles will spark different opinions that are consistent to those specific cut-off points. I think that's a pretty objective point of view.
Grass:
Turtwig > Chespin > Bulbasaur > Snivy > Treecko > Chikorita
Fire:
Charmander > Tepig > Chimchar > Fennekin > Torchic > Cyndaquil
Water:
Totodile > Squirtle > Froakie > Mudkip > Oshawott > Piplup
Green Mamba
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Generation II's starters are the most boring, but Generation V's have to be the most disappointing based on their fully evolved forms. Serperior is boring like Generation II boring, Samurott more or less tosses everything promising about its prevos out the window in favor of a standard badass third stage, and Emboar is a "seriously did you just do that for the third time in a row."
MatthewB92
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For Y Dragon/Something for X Dragon?/Grass maybe? Don't look like a dragon but whatever. I'm guessing here!!!!
Should have just made Emboar Fire / Ground. He'd still be useless, slow and weak to everything, but at least people could stop complaining about his typing.
fifasnipe2224
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Looks like I will be getting Black & White to catch me up while I wait for XY. So how do I pick between Black or White? Should i skip the first set and go to Black & White 2?? How are the starters?
Just based on their designs, I'm guessing Xerneas is Steel/Grass. Maybe Dark/Fire for Yveltal?
Black and White are great and have a fresh set of Pokemon. Version 2 continues the story from the first ones a little, but it's not mandatory if you just want to jump into them. The region is much larger and there's a much wider selection of Pokemon in 2, but neither's bad.
The starters all have their flaws though.
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