I should replay 1-3 before this comes out.
Do they still hold up? I've never gotten into the series before but gog.com has them all for $15.
I should replay 1-3 before this comes out.
I don't think it is a place holder. One of the Rock Paper Shotgun editors has been talking with the UBI rep on twitter and the UBI rep basically stated only the retail version is DRM free. Which is a strange move since PC is all about digital nowadays.
That's at least partially because you get DRM'ed either way though. I'll definitely be buying retail for DRM free. I like Steam but I much prefer a totally DRM free solution that means my game is always mine. People who go "DRM free? I'll buy it on Steam for sure!" confuse and frighten me.
That's at least partially because you get DRM'ed either way though. I'll definitely be buying retail for DRM free. I like Steam but I much prefer a totally DRM free solution that means my game is always mine. People who go "DRM free? I'll buy it on Steam for sure!" confuse and frighten me.
That's at least partially because you get DRM'ed either way though. I'll definitely be buying retail for DRM free. I like Steam but I much prefer a totally DRM free solution that means my game is always mine. People who go "DRM free? I'll buy it on Steam for sure!" confuse and frighten me.
Do they still hold up? I've never gotten into the series before but gog.com has them all for $15.
Here's why people don't see Steam as DRM:
- Valve isn't going to go bankrupt
- Valve isn't going to get bought out
- The DRM never interferes with them in their actual playing of the game
- Typically it is coupled with automatic patching, so insofar as they might have a pang of fear, they're also getting a benefit.
I mean, if you prefer DRM free, that's cool, but I'm not sure what's confusing about the stance that Stance or any similarly well implemented client by a reliable publisher would not be considered DRM for a lot of people.
It doesn't really matter whether or not people consider it so, it's a restriction on how you can use the software, so by any objective definition, it's DRM. It might be negligible to them, but it's still DRM.
Nah, I understand that. I just don't see why you'd go digital if you have an option for a totally DRM free game. I love Steam but why not get the one you will truly own (barring a significant price break)?Here's why people don't see Steam as DRM:
- Valve isn't going to go bankrupt
- Valve isn't going to get bought out
- The DRM never interferes with them in their actual playing of the game
- Typically it is coupled with automatic patching, so insofar as they might have a pang of fear, they're also getting a benefit.
I mean, if you prefer DRM free, that's cool, but I'm not sure what's confusing about the stance that Stance or any similarly well implemented client by a reliable publisher would not be considered DRM for a lot of people.
Nah, I understand that. I just don't see why you'd go digital if you have an option for a totally DRM free game. I love Steam but why not get the one you will truly own (barring a significant price break)?
Because I value the benefits of Steam more than owning a physical copy of the game:
1) 3 click install
2) No need to use or keep track of a disc
3) Automatic patching
4) Steam integration (and no need to setup a custom shortcut for a non-Steam game)
5) No need to go out to a store and buy it.
6) I get the game on launch day (if the retail version ships on the release date, I likely won't get it until 1-2 days later)
Owning a physical disc is mostly an inconvenience for me. I'll never trade-in or get rid of PC games, as they tend to not be worth much. Shelf space is at a premium at my place, and if I had a case for every one of my 500 games on Steam, I wouldn't have any place to put them.
?no need to setup a custom shortcut for a non-Steam game
That's a very stupid move.DRM on the digital version looks to be Tages-Solidshield:
http://www.impulsedriven.com/raymanorigins
Most likely the same one that was used for the latest Anno.
Nice! Hopefully it doesn't come with TAGES.
I should replay 1-3 before this comes out.
That's a very stupid move.
Damn you, Ubisoft, you were doing just fine, for once.
Why do I need to choose between a DRM free retail or a TAGES-plagued Steam version?
DRM on the digital version looks to be Tages-Solidshield:
http://www.impulsedriven.com/raymanorigins
Most likely the same one that was used for the latest Anno.
Is this the 3-activations-and-rebuy DRM?
I wonder if Amazon will remove it.
We won't know until release. EA uses Solidshield as well, but it's only as a way to activate your games. There are no limits as far as I know.
Ubi uses Solidshield to fuck with you.
DRM on the digital version looks to be Tages-Solidshield:
http://www.impulsedriven.com/raymanorigins
Most likely the same one that was used for the latest Anno.
the funny part is that the retail version will be pirated, both versions will bomb and Ubi will say "see, that's why we won't release PC versions anymore"
I don't know, Ubisoft is known for using DRM all the time. How's this surprising? Especially for a highly pirated game like Rayman.
I THINK it's supposed to be, if they confirm a retail release here (even if it's limited to Amazon or something) I'll reconsider skipping the PC version in favor of the Vita version. Or at least if they don't put any extra DRM on the Steam version because, seriously, it's fucking Steam. Don't be dumb about this!Yeah. Ubi does nothing but piss people off. Make it Steamworks (with no other DRM) and you're celebrated. Who wants to buy retail (in America)? Will they even sell this game at retail in the US? So put no DRM on the version that's easily trade-able with friends, and the one that's tied to your valuable Steam account, that's the one that gets the lock downs on casual trading. SMH. So much incompetence.
no ty. got enough other great stuff on my plate so i see no reason to deal with ubi's shenanigans. maybe if they had put some extra work into it and implemented online co-op i would bend. skipping this will be easy now.DRM on the digital version looks to be Tages-Solidshield:
http://www.impulsedriven.com/raymanorigins
Most likely the same one that was used for the latest Anno.
What I don't like about Steam is when you don't have internet access. Wanted to play some games on the train yesterday, but of course, for enabling the offline mode you need to connect to the Steam network. WTF?
Once only. If you simply restart in offline mode immediately after installing it on a new PC you shouldn't have any problems starting it in offline from then on.
Once only. If you simply restart in offline mode immediately after installing it on a new PC you shouldn't have any problems starting it in offline from then on.
Could you explain that a bit? I couldn't even start the Steam client and I've used the offline mode in the past already.
Yeah, it's supposed to be that way, but if I reboot and try to enter offline mode without connecting first, I get an error and can't play anything. It's broken, hence why I keep no-DVD cracks handy. You can swap .exe's back and forth without trouble.
You should be able to go offline without an internet connection once you've gone offline with an internet connection available. Are you sure you've successfully gone offline on that PC in the past?
Offline mode has never been an exact science but it's been working well for me for about a year now.
So I need to go offline while having an internet connection? There's no way around that?
Not that I ever bought anything on Steam, it's just the Humble Bundle games, but that's pretty tiresome. I don't understand why people like Steam DRM when it's still a bit shitty with offline mode.
https://twitter.com/#!/RaymanGame/status/162594401070223360Yes, Rayman Origins PC should be available on all e-shops including Steam; and no, it won't include any "complicated" DRM
https://twitter.com/#!/RaymanGame/status/162596931888091136Only an activation key for the downloadable version, the retail version will have none
https://twitter.com/#!/RaymanGame/status/163915278449782784I now have confirmation that the #RaymanOrigins #PC #preorder offer (free Rayman 2 download) will also be available on Steam!