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Rumor Roundup: Sony's 1080p 5-inch flagships for Q1 2013 - Yuga & Odin
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Good work, sir. To be honest though, I didn't care so much that I wasn't credited. I actually chuckled seeing that forum's watermark on the pics. But thanks for the kind deed!
Anyway I didn't find any new information or rumor this week. Maybe Sony has tightened their "security" so we don't get any leaks until the announcement, which could be 5-6 weeks away! If they announce it at CES, I just hope Sony will launch it globally in March (probably the best case scenario). Otherwise a wait of more than 2-3 months would eat away at a lot of the interest and hype in this phone, which is why I would prefer it to be shown at MWC. Another thing Sony can do is have their own special conference for the Yuga/Odin/Xperia line.
Anyway I didn't find any new information or rumor this week. Maybe Sony has tightened their "security" so we don't get any leaks until the announcement, which could be 5-6 weeks away! If they announce it at CES, I just hope Sony will launch it globally in March (probably the best case scenario). Otherwise a wait of more than 2-3 months would eat away at a lot of the interest and hype in this phone, which is why I would prefer it to be shown at MWC. Another thing Sony can do is have their own special conference for the Yuga/Odin/Xperia line.
zomgbbqftw
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So I was thinking about a new naming system for Sony mobiles, I think they should base it off the new Nexus naming convention so we would get:
Xperia 3 - Low-range 3.5"
Xperia 4 - Mid-range 4"
Xperia 5 - Top-range 5" (Odin)
Xperia 5R - Top-range 5" with water resistence.
Xperia 6 - Phablet
Xperia 9 - Tablet
Xperia 13 - XL tablet
It is also similar to the NEX naming convention, and once that has settled in, they can just build the brand for each size, and give newer versions new letters after the number, similar to the NEX range.
Xperia 3 - Low-range 3.5"
Xperia 4 - Mid-range 4"
Xperia 5 - Top-range 5" (Odin)
Xperia 5R - Top-range 5" with water resistence.
Xperia 6 - Phablet
Xperia 9 - Tablet
Xperia 13 - XL tablet
It is also similar to the NEX naming convention, and once that has settled in, they can just build the brand for each size, and give newer versions new letters after the number, similar to the NEX range.
zomgbbqftw
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For the same reasons Sony won't release a Nexus phone, they will also not release a WP8 device. They see it as a fast track to commoditisation where hardware vendors have just one major differentiator, price. With Android hardware vendors can differentiate with software and hardware and remember that Sony have an ecosystem to push. That might not be a big deal right now, but next year PS-Mobile and the Unlimited services are going to pushed very hard on Sony devices. Something they would not be able to do on WP8 or Nexus without coming to an agreement with MS or Google.
It's just the xperia T + LTE + Dust-proof and waterproof.
I was thinking about the naming convention and while the Nexus one doesn't sound bad, I still prefer the 2011 range naming scheme. Arc, Neo, Ray, Pro and Mini are very nice additions to the Xperia name and very nicely differentiate the phones. Something along similar lines would have been great. For example, I think Xperia Arc 2 would have been a much better name for the Xperia T or Xperia Light would have been a better name for Xperia S.
It's already working on Sony PS certified phones and tablets, and soon will extend to hardware partner devices.
And smaller display, with bigger bezel. Apparently it's the first proper Sony phone.
Btw sorry for the double post, I'm on my tablet.
AranhaHunter
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Where would the vita tablet and vita phone fall on that? Lol
Akira, as we say in Italy, you own me a coffee lol...I made you and your works famous around the world!
http://www.nexus-lab.com/2012/11/29...-render-prossimi-top-gamma-societa-nipponica/
http://www.nexus-lab.com/2012/11/29...-render-prossimi-top-gamma-societa-nipponica/
zomgbbqftw
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Xperia 5V/9V?
AranhaHunter
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I was just messing around as I don't even know if that's coming even though I think it should. If they were to do it they should separate it from the Xperia line though, don't you think? Keep Xperia for android phones. Unless they replace the vita OS with android, or dual boot it. Considering they are pretty paranoid, about piracy, want their own ecosystem, and people can already play psm games on any android machine by rooting it, I kinda doubt they would go that route.
By the way what size do you mean on your proposed xperia 9 and 13? 7 and 10 inches?
I read somewhere that Sony is not interested in the 7" tablet market.
AranhaHunter
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I don't know where to put this so I'll put it here:
http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/News/23407/Sony_Mobile_overtakes_HTC_in_Android_market.aspx
#2 android player in the UK, but still a tiny fraction compared to Samsung.
Possibly WM8 or vita OS.
http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/News/23407/Sony_Mobile_overtakes_HTC_in_Android_market.aspx
#2 android player in the UK, but still a tiny fraction compared to Samsung.
Possibly WM8 or vita OS.
It's like that person didn't even see the leaked shots of Yuga or any of the second half 2012 Xperia phones.
Just saw this at Esato:
Yuga's AnTuTu score is 19792, compared to other S4 Pro handsets: 17500 Nexus 4, 19000+ Droid DNA
Thats an impressive score.. usually sony dont very high on the chart. look like they have done some optimization.
That last part sounds like a possible W8 if MS allows Sony to push its services through on the phones.
Lagspike_exe
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I doubt we'll see Playstation Mobile next to Xbox.
Xperia T charted fairly high in the benchmark tests too. It was the highest charting phone before GS3 got Jellybean and iPhone 5 launched.
Sony have said this year that they're taking a 'wait and see' approach with WP8. They basically thing that it doesn't have nearly enough traction to dedicate resources over to it. They're right, btw.
I am a massive fan of their code names.
Sony Nozomi
Sony Hayabusa
Those are way cooler than S or T.
Yeah, Xperia Mint also sounds pretty cool. I'm not sure why they went with the random letter scheme, especially since the letters didn't seem to convey the categories very well. For example, how is T better S when really S is always seen as the best letter (you go D,C,B,A and then S).
Well, not that. But Im sure they want all their little ecosystem, services and content pushed and available on the device, and probably baked into the OS on their phones. Itll be interesting to see how much rope MS gives them. Neither MS nor Sony can really stand to NOT come together and get some Sony W8 phones out IMO. They both need more devices sold pretty badly.
February seems alright for having a Q4 flagship launch as is being rumoured.
Btw phonearena posted a rumour which coincides big time with what zomgbbgftw has been telling us:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...-Cortex-A15-beast-with-a-huge-battery_id37496
Btw phonearena posted a rumour which coincides big time with what zomgbbgftw has been telling us:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...-Cortex-A15-beast-with-a-huge-battery_id37496
-Pyromaniac-
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LOL yeah we'll see about that. I stick my plan, best battery of the galaxy s4/sony odin/htc m7 wins me as a customer*
*pending my carrier availability
zomgbbqftw
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That's because it is my rumour, including the naming convention I came up with. PhoneArena is operated by a bunch of chimps.
Oh right, sorry I thought you got it from that forum and then took it here and then then phonearena noticed it.
zomgbbqftw
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Anyway, since other sites are now reading my posts for rumours I'll have to stop posting them. D:
One last one for the road, the 4" screen for the P successor comes from JDI.
One last one for the road, the 4" screen for the P successor comes from JDI.
longdi
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SE xperia phones have very bad viewing angles so far, will sony improve on this area? i dont know why they keep using bad screens (even for their vaio laptops) and then post-processed it with bravia mobile engine/super white junk?
i drool after reading anandtech review of iphone5 display, and verify on the ground it is truly beautiful, but i dont want itunes!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6334/iphone-5-screen-performance
zomgbbqftw
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The Japan only GX is great and the P has Whitemagic tech which is great for outdoor viewing, the S is also pretty great as is Ion (all JDI/Sony), but the T, Sola and U are poor (all LG Display). I think it is partly due to volume, the T is set to be Sony's highest selling phone and they needed a lot of screens fast, capacity at JDI was all going to HTC who are paying a massive premium while Samsung are not supplying to Sony Mobile because of competition concerns.
Anyway, they are going to AUO and JDI for their screens from 2013, so it will be a big improvement over their current generation phones.
longdi
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honestly even the 2012 xperias as above, their screens are very average. not even close to htc one x nor iphone5/ipad3/4 nor 920.
please sony, make sure your 2013 flagship phone is full of flagship wins and not wasted promises. the screen! damnit, it is vital! one can dream sony, once king of consumer screen, can remake this magic on their phones....finally.
zomgbbqftw
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It's not great to see what people tell me in relative confidence end up splashed onto PhoneArena or other places. It's nice to discuss it here with the rest of GAF, and people here have their sources too which makes the discussion interesting, but when it ends up on popular websites like PhoneArena it's probably better not to.
Anyway, I can still talk about public stuff, or my own opinion on where Sony's direction or what has motivated their decisions.
How much do we think the T will sell this quarter? If I'm not mistaken we never got the sales of S, only that its sales were 'very strong' so it probably didn't cross the 1 million mark. I'd say T might have a chance of crossing that.
Also what about the designs for the 2013 line-up? Do you guys think they'll come back with the NXT design, continue the Arc designs, start using the the rectangle with 4 corners like the mock-ups for Odin suggest or go with something completely different?
Also what about the designs for the 2013 line-up? Do you guys think they'll come back with the NXT design, continue the Arc designs, start using the the rectangle with 4 corners like the mock-ups for Odin suggest or go with something completely different?
Holy shit that sounds and looks epic. Near enough perfect dare I say...Just the back looks a bit whack.
zomgbbqftw
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Yuga and Odin both have glass backs. I think it is Dragontrail glass from Asahi which is tougher than Corning's Gorilla glass.
Not sure how I feel about all glass (high chance for breakage). But still, maybe just maybe Sony might pull me away from getting an S4. Lets see what the software and camera is like.
Phantast2k
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I hope they'll have a glove mode
How awesome is that? No more ugly/shitty ts-enabled gloves.
I'm still holding out/waiting for the next messiah phone since I couldn't buy a Nexus 4 in time and now don't feel like I want one anymore. If they improve their camera performance I guess I'll be on board.
How awesome is that? No more ugly/shitty ts-enabled gloves.
I'm still holding out/waiting for the next messiah phone since I couldn't buy a Nexus 4 in time and now don't feel like I want one anymore. If they improve their camera performance I guess I'll be on board.
zomgbbqftw: For a second I thought we had lost you in the "fat girls" thread. :x
On another note, I believe the Odin/Yuga will look a bit like a much bigger Xperia E which was just recently announced. On the render, I made the sides completely flat just like the iPhone 4, but I'm beginning to think it might have a bit of a protrusion like in the Xperia E, just not as pronounced. The Xperia E also has the oversized power button ala the Sony Ericsson K810i and the Odin/Yuga.
On another note, I believe the Odin/Yuga will look a bit like a much bigger Xperia E which was just recently announced. On the render, I made the sides completely flat just like the iPhone 4, but I'm beginning to think it might have a bit of a protrusion like in the Xperia E, just not as pronounced. The Xperia E also has the oversized power button ala the Sony Ericsson K810i and the Odin/Yuga.
GTP_Daverytimes
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I was reading your post in esato and i am truly disappointed by this turn of events :'( , really hope you will change your mind.
AgentChris
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What could the huge surprise be? New OS?
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