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[Tams]

Huh. I would have thought this was the mission the A-10 was literally designed for? (killing slow-moving, cold-war era, Eastern European armor columns with a general lack of enemy air defense/superiority). The GAU-8 is cool and everything but the modern* A-10C can carry a lot of modern smart munitions with no need to get too close to the battle.

Of course if there are enemy fighters/interceptors in the area, then yeah the A-10 is going to have a Bad Time.

*Edit: Well "modern" might be overstating it, but it's still an upgrade over the older A-10's hah.

Yes, they are fantastic at taking out tanks.

They are also fantastic AA practice. Even stingers can be a significant problem for them. Modern AA guns are also pretty effective. A titanium armoured cockpit means jack shit if your flight control surfaces are shot to pieces or destroyed. It's not the Cold War anymore. That was over 30 years ago.

The memes about the A-10 are ridiculous. Yes, it sounds wonderful and scary. It's also a sitting duck.

The Ukrainians can get a bit too hopeful and fanciful sometimes, so I guess the A-10 fits in well there.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

 

[Ironbunny]

Yes, they are fantastic at taking out tanks.

They are also fantastic AA practice. Even stingers can be a significant problem for them. Modern AA guns are also pretty effective. A titanium armoured cockpit means jack shit if your flight control surfaces are shot to pieces or destroyed. It's not the Cold War anymore. That was over 30 years ago.

The memes about the A-10 are ridiculous. Yes, it sounds wonderful and scary. It's also a sitting duck.

The Ukrainians can get a bit too hopeful and fanciful sometimes, so I guess the A-10 fits in well there.

Its still quite useful if you have to ability to operate in an area where where anti-air is crippled. Just one A-10 can attack 8-10 tanks with its main gun and add missiles to that. Its been tested against modern tanks and it was succesful taking those down. I guess the biggest plus would be that Ukraine would have a jet with "modern" western ammunation carriage if theid have the A-10. Not sure what versions they were thinking of giving.

"In February, the Air Force carried out a first-ever test at the Nevada Test and Training Range in which pairs of A-10Cs unleashed armor-piercing incendiary rounds against up-armored surrogate main battle tanks with Explosive Reactive Armor, a kind of protection for modern armored vehicles designed to reduce the damage incoming rounds cause, the Air Force's 53rd Wing said in a statement last Friday.
In the aftermath of the test, analysts examined videos, photos, and the tanks themselves to determine the damage inflicted by the Warthog, and they determined that the vehicles had been rendered inoperative."

 

[Tams]

Its still quite useful if you have to ability to operate in an area where where anti-air is crippled. Just one A-10 can attack 8-10 tanks with its main gun and add missiles to that. Its been tested against modern tanks and it was succesful taking those down. I guess the biggest plus would be that Ukraine would have a jet with "modern" western ammunation carriage if theid have the A-10. Not sure what versions they were thinking of giving.

"In February, the Air Force carried out a first-ever test at the Nevada Test and Training Range in which pairs of A-10Cs unleashed armor-piercing incendiary rounds against up-armored surrogate main battle tanks with Explosive Reactive Armor, a kind of protection for modern armored vehicles designed to reduce the damage incoming rounds cause, the Air Force's 53rd Wing said in a statement last Friday.
In the aftermath of the test, analysts examined videos, photos, and the tanks themselves to determine the damage inflicted by the Warthog, and they determined that the vehicles had been rendered inoperative."

They are useful for that, but Ukraine do not have anti-air crippled, as much as the Russian S400s may be inflated (literally). And going by Russia's current rate, if their air defence does end up crippled, the rest of their forces will likely collapse anyway.

For the US, using an AC-130 is just better if they have total air superiority. The hell they can rain down is just unimaginable. As for other countries, well the UK prefers more targeted strikes using missiles, currently Brimstone.

 

[Ironbunny]

They are useful for that, but Ukraine do not have anti-air crippled, as much as the Russian S400s may be inflated (literally). And going by Russia's current rate, if their air defence does end up crippled, the rest of their forces will likely collapse anyway.

True. Was thinking more as a case by case use in Ukraine. Would need to be very selective of when and certainty of no anti-air for the mission. Considering how orc use their tanks/apc finding targets without air cover might actually be casual there.

For the US, using an AC-130 is just better if they have total air superiority. The hell they can rain down is just unimaginable. As for other countries, well the UK prefers more targeted strikes using missiles, currently Brimstone.

True. Its a beast.

 

[sinnergy]

This is really funny

The state of Russia .. pretty terrible.. I hope it’s not how the rest think .. down hill.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

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Lieutenant Colonel Sergey Koval [Cargo ID #370] is now the 8th senior officer from the 20th Guards Motor Rifle Division confirmed killed on HIMARS night (July 9).​

topcargo200.com/370/

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Apparently the peace offer that Erdogan offered to Zelensky was: russians get to keep 20% of ukraine lol.

Our local tankie journos are leading with "zelensky shoots down peace offer" smh...

 

[TwinB242]

Apparently the peace offer that Erdogan offered to Zelensky was: russians get to keep 20% of ukraine lol.

Our local tankie journos are leading with "zelensky shoots down peace offer" smh...

Can't say im surprised given how cozy Erdogan has been getting with Putin lately. He's a slimeball who plays both sides for his own benefit.

 

[TwinB242]

Remember how Wagner was starting to recruit prisoners for their cannon fodder army? Well its not going too well for them....

 

[Facism]

Apparently the peace offer that Erdogan offered to Zelensky was: russians get to keep 20% of ukraine lol.

Our local tankie journos are leading with "zelensky shoots down peace offer" smh...

Any source for this?

 

[funkygunther]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/darya...lexander-dugin-killed-in-car-bomb-reports-say

Some real shit went down here.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/darya...lexander-dugin-killed-in-car-bomb-reports-say

Some real shit went down here.

Well, the only thing I could care is whether the apple falls near or far from the tree. Which it seems she was near it, so I do not feel bad about it:

Analyst Daria Dugina: Eastern Ukraine Will Likely Accept A 'Eurasian Empire'; The West Is Totalitarian, Racist, Nazi; Russia-China Alliance Is Probable; There Is No Room For Anti-War Voices.​

Yes, fuck her too!!!

 

[StreetsofBeige]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/darya...lexander-dugin-killed-in-car-bomb-reports-say

Some real shit went down here.

Alexander Dugin was meant to be in the vehicle his daughter was driving but had gotten in a different one at the last second, according to Pyotr Lundstrem, a Russian violinist quoted by the outlet.


Dugin had reportedly been following right behind his daughter and had watched as her car exploded. Photos shared by Baza appeared to show Dugin distraught at the scene, holding his head in both hands as he stood in front of the fiery wreckage.

Daddy's little girl.

 

[akimbo009]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/darya...lexander-dugin-killed-in-car-bomb-reports-say

Some real shit went down here.

Another one.

 

[Fenix34]

Russians going to home. With music.

 

[Chittagong]

If Moscow had a bombing problem with a handful of pissed off Chechens, it certainly sounds like things could get less cozy. Targeted strikes against high value targets within the capital are pretty wild.

 

[Tams]

If Moscow had a bombing problem with a handful of pissed off Chechens, it certainly sounds like things could get less cozy. Targeted strikes against high value targets within the capital are pretty wild.

It could also be disaffected Russians themselves. The Putin regime has hardly made itself a lot of friends over the last two decades.

Hell, there are murmurings of Chechnya getting a bit feisty and their "best" are currently busy on TikTok and threatening to shoot/shooting Russian soldiers.

 

[MisterFalcon]

If Moscow had a bombing problem with a handful of pissed off Chechens, it certainly sounds like things could get less cozy. Targeted strikes against high value targets within the capital are pretty wild.

The facade of Russia being a tightly controlled state is falling apart. Ukraine could probably drive a HIMARS to Moscow with a story it was captured and is to be shown to Putin personally.

 

[FunkMiller]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/darya...lexander-dugin-killed-in-car-bomb-reports-say

Some real shit went down here.

 

[RJMacready73]

Car bomb on the streets of Moscow taking out a close ally of Putin... Is the house of cards starting to shake? That'll send shockwaves through the inner circle and put everyone of the cunts on edge, did Putin sanction it? Is this the start of removing chess pieces clearing the way for a palace coup? To be a fly on wall inside the Kremlin... Russian speaking fly of course

 

[FunkMiller]

Car bomb on the streets of Moscow taking out a close ally of Putin... Is the house of cards starting to shake? That'll send shockwaves through the inner circle and put everyone of the cunts on edge, did Putin sanction it? Is this the start of removing chess pieces clearing the way for a palace coup? To be a fly on wall inside the Kremlin... Russian speaking fly of course

I’d like to see a continuing series of incidents like this in Moscow. As ever, one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter, and if Russians (especially the privileged ones) start to fear a campaign of bombings and assassinations, that might sharpen a few minds a bit.

 

[nemiroff]

Apparently the peace offer that Erdogan offered to Zelensky was: russians get to keep 20% of ukraine

..Until the next encroaching "special operation" of murder, rape and torture.. Yeah, Ukraine knows.. We know, everybody knows. Ukraine should say yes, and then hit them even harder. Where the fuck are the ATACMS already.

 

[Ironbunny]

It is a GPS- and inertial-guidedp munition capable of being used in close support situations within 75–150 meters (250–490 ft) of friendly troops or in situations where targets might be prohibitively close to civilians to attack with conventional unguided artillery fire. Basicly even more precision capability to shoot those targets behind enemy lines.

 

[Nobody_Important]

Well, the only thing I could care is whether the apple falls near or far from the tree. Which it seems she was near it, so I do not feel bad about it:

Analyst Daria Dugina: Eastern Ukraine Will Likely Accept A 'Eurasian Empire'; The West Is Totalitarian, Racist, Nazi; Russia-China Alliance Is Probable; There Is No Room For Anti-War Voices.​

Yes, fuck her too!!!

 

[Darius87]

..Until the next encroaching "special operation" of murder, rape and torture.. Yeah, Ukraine knows.. We know, everybody knows. Ukraine should say yes, and then hit them even harder. Where the fuck are the ATACMS already.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

It is a GPS- and inertial-guidedp munition capable of being used in close support situations within 75–150 meters (250–490 ft) of friendly troops or in situations where targets might be prohibitively close to civilians to attack with conventional unguided artillery fire. Basicly even more precision capability to shoot those targets behind enemy lines.

I thought they already had those given to them from Canada.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Any source for this?

Newspaper in my city... I didn't think to take a photo of the header, in retrospect I should have.

 

[Facism]

Newspaper in my city... I didn't think to take a photo of the header, in retrospect I should have.

No worries

 

[Wildebeest]

This Dugin story is crazy if you consider that the most likely series of events is that the Russian state killed his daughter in public, and he was told about it before it happened.

 

[Airbus Jr]

 

[Chittagong]

This Dugin story is crazy if you consider that the most likely series of events is that the Russian state killed his daughter in public, and he was told about it before it happened.

How is this the most likely series of events? What sense would it make for Russia?

 

[Ironbunny]

Missing the fact that she was also a ruZZian nazi.

 

[Kenpachii]

Pretty hot chick

Edit its not the chick that got blown up.;

 

[akimbo009]

How is this the most likely series of events? What sense would it make for Russia?

Ukraine has officially denied this. Also, you presume Russia is a unified country when it's a loose federation of oligarchs and criminals. This shit ain't going well for them, and certainly there are some grumpy folks losing their yachts and shit. I also wouldn't put it past their own FSB or military doing this - trying to get these hyper expansionistic assholes to shut up and for getting them into this mess in the first place.

This whole thing has set Russia back a generation or more. She and her father are key cheerleaders for it - that's got to make enemies. It does make me think the FSB must have allowed this to some extent and Putin must see also see this as a shot across the bow.

 

[Wildebeest]

How is this the most likely series of events? What sense would it make for Russia?

What makes sense for Russia is only something non Russians think of.

 

[niilokin]

Pretty hot chick

thats lauren southern

 

[M1chl]

Pretty hot chick

That's Lauren Southern, by the way, this is was his daughter:

To me it's wild that you can Southern is out there online, spewing Kremlin talking points and it's a-ok for Twitch. But that's unrelated to this.

 

[Darius87]

Pretty hot chick

not really. 6 out of 10.

 

[Ironbunny]

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

I can think of Old Putler's tea.

with a bit of special ingredient:

 

[RJMacready73]

Someone needs to tap Russia on the shoulder and remind them what fucking century it is.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

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Ex-Russian MP claims Russian partisans responsible for Moscow car bomb | Ukraine​

theguardian.com/world/...

 

[Mokus]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/darya...lexander-dugin-killed-in-car-bomb-reports-say

Some real shit went down here.

I'm sure she is also a smoker.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

The Russian army fights among itself-Buryats and "Kadyrovtsy" staged a firefight among themselves for control over the city in Vasylivka, the Zaporizhzhia region Both sides are reported to have taken significant losses​

mobile.twitter.com/WarMon...

 

[DaleinCalgary]

I'm sure she is also a smoker.

Oh she is smoking for sure now.

edit: but they probably put her out

 

[winjer]

Russians killing each other on the streets and on the battlefield is great news to read.

 

[Mokus]

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Ex-Russian MP claims Russian partisans responsible for Moscow car bomb | Ukraine​

theguardian.com/world/...

Translation:

If this is real, Putin and his acolytes are in big trouble if they loose the war in Ukraine.

 

[TwinB242]

^Thats great news. Having to dedicate resources to stopping a potential uprising within Russia's own borders is going to benefit Ukraine greatly.