Segata Sanshiro
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religion...fucking everything up since, well, ever
religion...fucking everything up since, well, ever
Adam Prime said:After reading this whole thread, this post says it all...
"He's going to use his money to deny gay people their rights".
Well, jeesh, that's not fair because I'm sure there are NO gay supporters who make lots of money from some sort of media (video games, movies, books) and use THEIR money and influence to try and push support for gay rights!
Asmodai said:Nah, let's start an online petition instead. That will be exponentially more effective! :lol
If not purchasing Shadow Complex is a boycott, I guess I will be doing just that, though! What do I get for being part of the boycott? A cookie?
I was never planning to buy it in the first place, but hell, they don't need to know that, right? I can just pretend I'm not buying it for a more noble reason than that I don't care about it!
Might want to edit your post there, buddy.Doubledex said:WTF??? Are you stupid?
Chaos Dragon said:>>Stuff<<
woodypop said:We all choose our battles.
HamPster PamPster said:Whats the difference between this thread and any random Activision CEO thread where half the gaffers in it vow to stop buying activision games? Or any thread where gaffers keep calling for people to "vote with their dollars"
I'm surpirsed at the overwhelming response against the OP
And liberals are all calm, nurturing saints.EmCeeGramr said:No, you don't understand. Some extreme conservatives literally think that the Nazis were liberal and that there's no difference.
Yes...everyone from Utah is somehow tied to a Anti Gay Marriage association.duckroll said:I think what is more worrying is not the influence that Card might have on anything, but what sort of company Chair Entertainment might be. Since they're based on Utah, funding them could be indirectly funding what a lot of people here are against.
MvmntInGrn said:I hate this agrument. Not every ethical situation means the same to everyone.
Qtopia said:With this said, homophobia is not something I condone. Homosexuality is not a crime. I am pro Civil Unions. If you disagree with me GREAT!
Y2Kev said:There's not really any hint of his regular crazy ranting self. But why they chose him at all is weird. And by him I mean OSC.
It is kind of amazing how gaming attracts homophobes.Qtopia said:5. Ignorance (Hate to break it to everyone but like it or not Homosexuality IS a reproductive dysfunction. This is SCIENCE not Opinion)
Princess Skittles said:And liberals are all calm, nurturing saints.
WE GET IT.
I'm not trying to keep my money from going to people I disagree with. As far as the potential example you raise, Will Wright frequently donates to Republican candidates. That's fine with me. I don't vote for Republican candidates but I have nothing against people who do in general. People in my family do. We just disagree on some things. I bought The Sims 3 after learning about Wright's donations.Leondexter said:And though I'd rather not be a part of anything funding right-wing extremism or gay bashing, I find it odd to single out this game when none of us know or care where the money we spend on other games (or other entertainment in general) is going. Hell, since it was a Democrat (Leiberman) who led the big attacks on games that have been through Congress in the past, most notably the one resulted in ESRB ratings, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that videogame companies make donations to his Republican opponents.
In short, if you think you can keep your money from getting into the hands of people with views that are different from yours, you're wrong.
If that's a hot button for you, go for it.Ogrekiller said:Thats right. Because of this thread I'm now boycotting the new GTAIV DLC
Shig said:I enjoyed the game, but its atrocious writing definitely guaranteed I'll be implementing a lifelong boycott of Orson Scott Card's books.
bigdaddygamebot said:I'd say it's pretty possible that there a one or two more homophobes in the gaming industry. *Gasp* There might be one working on a game you're anticipating right now! Oh noes!
Get a grip.
I'm not condoning his belief but boycotting Shadow Complex because of this? isn't there an online petition somewhere that you could be signing?
ShockingAlberto said:It is kind of amazing how gaming attracts homophobes.
you know what, any game by glenn beck would probably be pretty interesting. heheShockingAlberto said:Yeah, pretty much.
If Glenn Beck made the best video game ever, I don't think I'd be buying it.
Kosma said:I hope the people not buying this also check in which countries their clothes are made and in what conditions, same for electronics etc.
I mean if you pretend to be some consumer with a consience then do it right.
Otherwise it reeks of hypocrisy.
Vinci said:Dear lord, one has to wonder how you've managed to read books, play games, watch movies, and listen to music all your life without once enjoying something that was created by someone with political and moral perspectives contrary to yours.
You've lived a sheltered life.
duckroll said:I think what is more worrying is not the influence that Card might have on anything, but what sort of company Chair Entertainment might be. Since they're based on Utah, funding them could be indirectly funding what a lot of people here are against.
Wizman23 said:I buy games to have fun and be entertained. You guys keep fighting the good fight and keep charging into battle with your other internet White Knights. The other 98% of the people in this thread will continue to enjoy Shadow Complex for the kick ass GAME that it is.
duckroll said:I think what is more worrying is not the influence that Card might have on anything, but what sort of company Chair Entertainment might be. Since they're based on Utah, funding them could be indirectly funding what a lot of people here are against.
That's about how I feel. Boycotting this game would certainly send a message, but it wouldn't be a message to Card...I'll start this by saying that I don't agree with Card's politics in the least. That said, I don't think a boycott really sends the right message.
Isn't he the one whose books are about space hitler? only with a different name?
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-common-practice.htmlThe Appeal to Common Practice is a fallacy with the following structure:
X is a common action.
Therefore X is correct/moral/justified/reasonable, etc.
The basic idea behind the fallacy is that the fact that most people do X is used as "evidence" to support the action or practice. It is a fallacy because the mere fact that most people do something does not make it correct, moral, justified, or reasonable.
hyduK said:There's probably more than one homophobic employee on any given development team, we should boycott gaming.
duckroll said:Like I said before in the thread, the founders of Chair are on good terms with Card, and he helped them out with the script of Advent Rising previously. When they came up with this new concept of a civil war in modern day America with sci-fi overtones, they collaborated with Card to create the novel Empire, as a starting point for the series.
Segata Sanshiro said:hahaha
religion...fucking everything up since, well, ever
ShockingAlberto said:If that's a hot button for you, go for it.
Coins said:OSC is a homophobe!
EmCeeGramr said:No, you don't understand. Some extreme conservatives literally think that the Nazis were liberal and that there's no difference.
Segata Sanshiro said:hahaha
religion...fucking everything up since, well, ever
Well put.bill0527 said:If you look hard enough in life and go deep enough down the rabbit hole, you're probably going to find that every single product you have ever purchased was either created, manufactured, or sold by someone or some entity, who you have political, philosophical, and moral disagreements with.
The question you have to ask yourself .. is this product or service trying to push a political, philosophical, or moral view that I disagree with. If it is.. then boycott it. If not, and its a product that you want, then by all means purchase it because there are a lot of people whose very livelihoods depend on your purchase of that product or service. People who have no stake at all in whatever your beliefs are, or even what people in their own company may believe. A lot of people are just trying to earn a paycheck.
Its kind of like this Whole Foods boycott. Lets boycott the store because we have a disagreement with the CEO on health care or other political issues all while acting like we're doing it because we care about people. Yeah, well where's your compassion for those Whole Foods employees you're going to put into the unemployment line and leave stranded without - by all accounts, a pretty good company sponsored health care plan? These people are like most Americans, and are just working stiffs trying to collect a paycheck and could care less what you or anyone else's personal beliefs may be.
But it certainly would not give Card more money and it would send the message to developers that partnering with someone who actively preaches hate has a consequence.dark10x said:That's about how I feel. Boycotting this game would certainly send a message, but it wouldn't be a message to Card...
Looking at this thread, clearly nobody. That's why no one is posting, including yourself. And me. And that guy underneath me. The dude above, too.Keikoku said:Wow, who gives a shit ?