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Space X Jason-3 launch 1/17 10:42am PST/1:42pm EST
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Ether_Snake
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You need a barge with that chicken-head-motion-thing to keep it level.
cebri.one
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So, no data yet. Let's wait.
iceblade997
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Looks like the webcast isn't going to be saying anything about the landing.
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/688797346151284736
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/688797346151284736
legacyzero
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Because it's not confirmed.
Corpsepyre
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Think he meant the game.
How would they know?
PjotrStroganov
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They keep saying landing the 1st stage is a secondary mission. But in the end it's exactly that what is the main goal going forwards.
cebri.one
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SpaceX needs clients to fund other research. The primary mission is always to get the payload where the client wants. Always.
Corpsepyre
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Good music though.
Winterblink
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The guys running the spacex live threads aren't usually just random joes on the internet, they usually have good sources of information.
Anyway, there's no cheering going on in the livestream, so either they don't have an update (unlikely) or things haven't gone according to plan. I remain hopeful.
Epsilon-delta
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I'm trippin balls listening to the music on stream.
cebri.one
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If they had landed succesfully we would know by now. I bet they know it crashed but want a bit of info to release it to the public.
Edit: I'm a bit hopeful since i saw they lost some telemetry too. So maybe they don't know.
Edit2: Leg broken. Probably stage crashed.
iceblade997
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Indeed, so whether or not they can pull off landing the first stage this time isn't so important. As long as they can get the satellite into its required orbit and deployed properly, it'll be a good thing. As they say, this first stage landing bit, while important, really is a secondary objective.
Winterblink
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They talked about that on the stream earlier, it lets them use more fuel for orbital insertion.
Aruarian Reflection
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As smart as they are, it's impossible to calculate landing in unpredictable 12 foot waves right?
Just about to say that. But I'm not confident of a stage recovery. Dammit anyway. Looks like it's still zero success on barge landings.
The Ocean is massive and isolated. It gives them a lot of flexibility when landing the rocket for future missions.
jellies_two
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well its obviously crashed since it had not landed by the time it was supposed to and when the feed was still working. there is no margin to linger after all, Its either in the drink or in pieces.
iceblade997
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They don't have a landing pad at Vandenberg AFB, and it's to test (and refine) doing so, which they'll need to do for bigger rockets like the Falcon 9 Heavy which they will be using to be delivering bigger payloads to space. It might also be safer (but that's just me guessing there).
Corpsepyre
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Did they explain what happened? Everyone just went silent a minute after all the clapping.
NihonTiger90
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Crash is probably likely, given how awful the conditions were at sea. If they land it safely, then they're onto something.
That and SpaceX never got approval for a pad landing at Van.
Yeah, anyways it is a succesful mission.
Jason-3 still has to be deployed. Hopefully the primary mission will be a flawless success.
Ether_Snake
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Isn't it possible to make a platform that would always be level even in relatively strong waves? Sounds like that alone would be an absolute prerequisite, and then on top of that some sort of wind protection that would rise into place as soon as the rocket is aligned around three meters above with the platform.
edit: Sounds to me like the whole landing thing still doesn't make sense due to how it's constructed. It seems they need to rethink the whole design.
edit: Sounds to me like the whole landing thing still doesn't make sense due to how it's constructed. It seems they need to rethink the whole design.
mentallyinept
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"First stage on target at droneship but looks like hard landing; broke landing leg. Primary mission remains nominal → http://www.spacex.com/webcast "
Winterblink
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Yep, sounds like a leg broke. Should be some awesome footage to watch later.
NihonTiger90
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Ah dang. Well, that's two close calls on the barges.
iceblade997
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Awww. Well hey, every step forward is better and better. Hopefully the satellite deploys no issues. Putting it on target is still an amazing feat, especially given how the ocean was rolling so much.
blu
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An abandoned oil rig would do.
Winterblink
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Failure yields excellent data though, folks.
Ether_Snake
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If you can move it around. But I'm guessing it must be possible to make a platform that is always level with the waves.
That's one thing, the second one is I really don't think the design of the rocket's landing and stabilization makes sense. It looks extremely flimsy, like you need something to hold the rocket in place as soon as it lands, to do away with the very possibility of a "hard landing". Like something that would basically catch it, like a hand holding it when it starts hovering close to the surface rather than land.
If the landing areas are generally the same place then couldn't they build a platform at sea, like an oil rig type structure?
Or for situations where it might topple, have some restraining device you can deploy from the barge to help keep it upright even if a leg breaks
Yeah, given how expensive these things are you'd think some larger capture system would be better than just a pad in the ocean. Dunno how advanced the platform is at stabilizing.
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