I realize that, but the post was insinuating heavy multiplayer focus when they could still port single player focused titles.
Not everything on Wii U is multiplayer focused, and you can bet those will get ports and whatever to Switch as well.
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Super Mario Sunshine needs a Remake on Switch (and Miyamoto doesn't want to do it)
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I realize that, but the post was insinuating heavy multiplayer focus when they could still port single player focused titles.
Not everything on Wii U is multiplayer focused, and you can bet those will get ports and whatever to Switch as well.
Camper Van Beethoven
Banned
So do we disassociate all those remakes on Wii U from Miyamoto now? He didn't want Zelda remakes?
He's cool with "improving" old games when they're desperate for software I guess.
You'll take Paper Mario + Rabbids and be happy about it.
The most frustrating part for me with this game was the water controls.
Now if they use motion controls, it would be a huge different instead of using that stupid none working analog controls.
That said, it should remove most of the piranha plants enemies and add a lot of new enemies in it. Also less dirt (removing).
Now if they use motion controls, it would be a huge different instead of using that stupid none working analog controls.
That said, it should remove most of the piranha plants enemies and add a lot of new enemies in it. Also less dirt (removing).
I adored SMS when it released and I still think is a highlight int he NGC library but I'd love a re-imaging of it
same premise, mechanics, characters, world, new HD assets,
just make it bit tighter and streamlined and get rid of annoyances like blue coins, bad cameras, glitches and cumbersome/complicated manuevers that are more annoying than fun.
it really could have 1 less shine per world, if not less... it's a bit too long for its own good.
Azure Dream
Member
Super Mario Bros. Sunshine
Luigi comes on the trip. 2 player splitscreen or separate co-op, in addition to a much more tightly designed (and 60 FPS in 1 Player Mode) Sunshine.
Also, replaced Drugged Peach while you're at it.
P.S. A fucking indicator if Blue Coins are available in a specific Shine's map or not.
Luigi comes on the trip. 2 player splitscreen or separate co-op, in addition to a much more tightly designed (and 60 FPS in 1 Player Mode) Sunshine.
Also, replaced Drugged Peach while you're at it.
P.S. A fucking indicator if Blue Coins are available in a specific Shine's map or not.
If it's regular turn based and isn't like the last two, sure why not lol
When I see how demanded an HD port of this game is I don't know if some of the people that want it has played it recently.
For one thing done right, Sunshine does another two wrong. The game has its virtues, but is full of problems and is generally half-baked (this is one of the most evident examples of Nintendo rushing a development of that era).
It needs to be entirely remade to match the general 3D Mario standards... but I don't think we really need it, more even seeing how Odyssey is going to massively improve the formula used in SM64 and Sunshine and solve some of the problems present in those games, even mixing elements of the more recent 3D Land/World and Galaxy series on it.
Maybe they should release it as a GC Virtual Console title so more people can play it again and see how it's not really the hottest game to beg an HD port.
For one thing done right, Sunshine does another two wrong. The game has its virtues, but is full of problems and is generally half-baked (this is one of the most evident examples of Nintendo rushing a development of that era).
It needs to be entirely remade to match the general 3D Mario standards... but I don't think we really need it, more even seeing how Odyssey is going to massively improve the formula used in SM64 and Sunshine and solve some of the problems present in those games, even mixing elements of the more recent 3D Land/World and Galaxy series on it.
Maybe they should release it as a GC Virtual Console title so more people can play it again and see how it's not really the hottest game to beg an HD port.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention how fucking insane the story is in Sunshine, and not in a good way.
SinCityAssassin
Member
I would say that considering how Nintendo handled both remasters (Dev training for working on Breath of the Wild via WWHD and TPHD was actually Aonuma's decision after WWHD's release), neither would be applicable to Miyamoto's personal thoughts of not wanting to remake his own Mario games.
Dark Cloud
Member
That's fine. Just give it to us on VC atleast.
Just pare it down to the FLUDDless ones.
Camper Van Beethoven
Banned
Yeah sure dude.
He probably cried himself to sleep when they released Mario Allstars and all those GBA remakes.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Man, he was devastated, you don't even know. Couldn't get out of his home for months to garden or some shit.
Kamek Koopa
Member
No, it does not.
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Miyamoto really didn't have much to do with it. Miyamoto barely handles anything Zelda anymore, it's largely Aonuma who handles the series.
Beren the Empty-Handed
Member
You'd need to rework a lot of that game to make it worth doing. I think it would be more money and manpower than anybody reasonably wants to do, and I don't blame them for not going for it. It's not even touch-ups or slight fixes like speeding up the boats and things - some of the basic design aspects need to be rethought to truly make it up to par with the other Mario games, and at that point it's just more sensible to make a new Mario game and focus on that instead. I see why he doesn't want to do it.
Council Pop
Member
I really don't understand why everyone is always begging for a Sunshine remake, a really mediocre game, when we've never even had an HD Mario 64 remake, one of the best games of all time.
Choppymushroom
Neo Member
Remake or a port for vc, anything to make the best mario(sunshine) playable on the switch.
Add a few levels and remove some blue coins to keep it at 120 Shines. Game is fixed. Mechanically the game is still incredible, far prefer how Sunshine actually handles to 64 thanks to the absolutely amazing FLUDD & all its possibilities. And while FLUDD is great, many of the FLUDDless levels are far better than anything in SM64, as far as offering challenging yet fun platforming goes. Clear precursors for stuff in Galaxies & 3d Marios past them.
Camper Van Beethoven
Banned
Miyamoto is long past the point where he's actively involved in game design. He's exactly the kind of guy deciding if things like Wind Waker HD get released.
People clamouring for a Sunshine remake should be given Super Mario Boat, with 120 boat levels to play.
Personally, I just want remasters, not remakes. Fully fledged remakes of Sunshine and Galaxy would likely be too cost/time intensive to really be worth it, and I honestly think those games look good as is... on a tube TV anyway. They just need a higher resolution to be playable on modern TV's, and that's all I'd want.
64 was already remade once basically.
that's what i disagree with, and you're right in that i was def implying that multiplayer focused games are the no.1 priority fro nintendo's 'port/remaster' objectives.
i'd be happy to be wrong, as i love a lot of nintendo single player games, but you will unlikely see Yoshi's woolly world, captain toad, kirby & the magic paintbrush, or DKC:TF, or SM3dW ported onto switch.
Bayonetta 2, TMS, and Devils Third are a little up in the air, but unless Sega, Platinum, Atlus, or Valhalla actively request them, you won't see those either.
The only avenue where i see this happening is if nintendo runs into a software drought like they did on wiiu, but it seems quite unlikely with the switch.
also, i don't get why we're including BoTW. this game was released on the market the same time as the wiiU version. to the average consumer & the market as a whole, this was a BRAND NEW simultaneous release.
only 'hardcore gamers' on an internet msg board will make the distinction that this is a port, and only to 'hardcore gamers' on an internet msg board does this distinction have any weight or relevance.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
I'm of the opinion that most of their past titles should be available on Switch in one form or another, barring those which are technically unfeasible for some reason (such as those with extensive motion controls). Why allow countless games to be stuck in the past when they could be ported over or emulated. It would be akin to movies being released on VHS not being made available on DVD, Blu Ray and streaming etc.
Nah, 4 more years for his 35th anniversary.
Unless you count Donkey Kong as Mario's real anniversary, than this year is Mario's 35th anniversary.
that's what i disagree with, and you're right in that i was def implying that multiplayer focused games are the no.1 priority fro nintendo's 'port/remaster' objectives.
i'd be happy to be wrong, as i love a lot of nintendo single player games, but you will not see Yoshi's woolly world, captain toad, kirby & the magic paintbrush, or DKC:TF, or SM3dW ported onto switch.
Bayonetta 2, TMS, and Devils Third are a little up in the air, but unless Sega, Platinum, Atlus, or Valhalla actively request them, you won't see those either.
also, i don't get why we're including BoTW. this game was release on the market the same time as the wiiU version. to the average consumer & the market as a whole, this was a BRAND NEW simultaneous release.
only 'hardcore gamers' on an internet msg board will make the distinction that this is a port, and only to 'hardcore gamers' on an internet msg board does this distinction have any weight or relevance.
So you're arguing Nintendo never ports/remasters single-player games for their newer systems? What were Zelda: OOT 3D, Majoras Mask 3D, Wind Waker HD, Twilight Princess HD, Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D, Star Fox 64 3D and others, then?
Agreed, 100%. Nintendo has a classic catalog of games, and they should be playable by as many people in as many systems as possible. This is why I'm glad the Virtual Console exists (although I really wish N64, GameCube, etc. would be upscaled to a higher resolution on VC than 480p, maybe 720p if it wasn't too demanding on the Switch hardware).
Gunmonkey36
Member
"Needs" might be too strong of a word.
Also obligatory Super Mario Sunshine is the worst 3d mario.
Also obligatory Super Mario Sunshine is the worst 3d mario.
I think you'll find it was other users who uploaded all those 1-1 remakes on Mario Maker's servers.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
We don't need a remake of anything, pathetic how people just want to play the same old games over and over
Camper Van Beethoven
Banned
It's not nice to call Nintendo fans pathetic.
I really enjoyed Super Mario Sunshine. Moreso than SM64.
But the internet keeps telling me I'm wrong.
It's my favorite too, but it does have some serious flaws that would be nice to see ironed out. Sunshine was rushed out the door in need of a big hitter with the GC failing and all.
Supermanisdead
Member
It needs to be forgotten.