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Super Marvel vs Capcom: Hype Train to Comic Con; Now Boarding! Lupinko @ post 500+

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But... The nature of the riddles is all over the place. There are fragile, obscure, ambiguous and multifaceted links between hints. The riddle game pretty much set up for misguidance, Lupinko shouldn't be angry when ambiguous clues all connect in 5 different ways to produce 5 different interpretations. We have no way to deduce which one is the correct one, and even still if we do we have no method of confirmation, so were constantly spinning in circles.

This is why I asked Lupinko if he'd at least acknowledge correct answers. Even after all the guessing at SRK, Chibi said "One of you are right." and then left. Lupinko needs to at least tweet "enzo_gt's got the right idea" or such if he wants to keep with not being completely explicit.
not going to happen, he loves the attention to much. the guy is monitoring at least 3 message boards and watching everybody freak out at every word he says around the clock.
 

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How about this...


DOCTOR

FUCKING

OCTOPUS!!

Come on he's perfect for this game..... LUPINKO AMIRITE?
Well he's mentioned on incomplete files on the retail build. Would indeed be awesome but you can't be sure about anything anymore really. Aside from Strider, PW and Chuck Greene I suppose
 

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I'm working on a comprehensive document of everything we've gotten so far, and the various arguments people have made. If you found particularly good arguments for someone, feel free to link me to it, and it will be included.
 

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First, consider this entire post to be spoilers.

I am going to do my best here to put together a summary of what has been shared by Lupinko thus far, and what able-minded individuals have interpreted the hints to be; these are interpretations, they are not categorical declarations - many are even contradictory. I will not be putting the characters in any particular order, just the arguments for them, as well as what else we have received. I will keep things as basic as possible so anyone can follow what is happening.

None of these discoveries are my own; I apologize, but it would take far too much effort to track down who initially made what connections, and this is enough work as it is. My goal is to make the exploration of these riddles more structured. People keep making discoveries, and then they fade away. We are on the right track one moment, and then off in another direction entirely. So, let's try to make progress. Everything Lupinko has said is not contained within this thread, just those things that have been said and have had some reasonable meaning put to them. If I made a mistake, or missed something important, help me out rather than berate me, and I'll add it for a future update.

12 Characters
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89199598131884032
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89200503568859136
This seems to be a reference to Niitsuma; some have speculated that it is a reference to this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOZEaTDXFrY

Phoenix Wright
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88424541361152000
In Japanese, this translates to Phoenix Wright's surname, "Naruhodo".

Strider Hiryu
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88420025538580481
Clockw0rk is a renown MvC2 veteran who specialized in using Strider Hiryu. The other members of his team, Dr. Doom and Sentinel, are already in the game.

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89155026915831808
The top-left corner of this image has been altered; this is the original cover:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$%28KGrHqIOKnEE2ZvdTEJdBNvq7%28k+Cw~~_35.JPG

The silhouette that has been added to the image is without a doubt Strider Hiryu's:
http://www.freewebs.com/strider-hiryu//Strider Hiryu/strider_hiryu.jpg

This related tweet cements Master Chibi as a reliable source, which is important in later arguments:
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89157218200600576

Vergil
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89024544764989441
Vergil is mentioned specifically. The "twins" mention is possible a reference to he and Dante being twin brothers, yet polar opposites, much as Danny DeVito and Arnold were in the film.

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88806044213587968
James Cromwell played Vergil in a "Dante's Inferno" film.

Gambit
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89240411717120000
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89238408622391296
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSlMIuOEenE&playnext=1&list=PL99A5E1FFBF2742B3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Srh6pyyFs
The argument of their association: Pokemon made collecting cards more popular than ever. Gambit throws cards. Hockey players use sticks. Gambit uses a bo staff, a type of stick. The actor who played Gambit in the X-Men Origins: Wolverine movie, Taylor Kitsch, is Canadian:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Kitsch

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89155026915831808
Gambit was a Horseman of Apocalypse for a while:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GambitDeath.png

Apocalypse
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89155026915831808
Apocalypse is mentioned.

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88881487730065408
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88881287191998464
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88881232468910080
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88881157466374146
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88881101396910080
These, or iterations of them, are all apparently Apocalypse quotes. I lost track of the video source - feel free to post it for reference when I update everything next.

Ghost Rider
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88905161216503808
Ghost Rider gets a mention.
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89206195537199105
Possibly relevant:
http://sidcustoms.blogspot.com/2010/12/ghost-rider.html

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89240411717120000
Hockey team "The Fernie Ghostriders" have a "Tim Hortons Player of the Week":
http://www.fernieghostriders.com/leagues/custom_page.cfm?clientID=4615&leagueID=15854&pageid=9223

Rogue
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88900118304133120
Lenore Zahn is the voice actress for Rogue in the old X-Men TV series.

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88624060304605184
When Rogue absorbed Ms. Marvel's powers, she also absorbed her entire psyche, permanently.

Venom
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88525101439516672
The only thing said here is that Sandman is not to be relied upon. At the least, this is a disconfirmation of Sandman. Some have taken this as a hint toward Venom. In the Spider-man 3 film, three villains are present: Green Goblin, Venom, and Sandman. Venom (Eddie Brock) asks Sandman to join with him to defeat Spider-man in the film, but they fail. The Green Goblin joins forces with Spider-man in the film.

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89220947709657088
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89266993798193152
In Pokemon, the character Brock makes a lot of rice balls, but this was translated as "jelly-filled donuts" in the English version. Lupinko also linked to Niitsuma's infamous donut-eating video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOZEaTDXFrY

The argument seems to be that this is hinting at the donut/riceball/Brock relationship, and thus we will have Eddie Brock, AKA Venom, in the game.

Frank West/Chuck Greene
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88503530771582976
In Dead Rising 2, you are able to make mixed drinks, among which are Orange Juice and Milk.

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88503553576013824
Lupinko clearly intended for the result of the mixed drinks to be an accurate reference to the game (it is not, as Orange Juice and Milk make Nectar, which attracts queens to Chuck):
http://dead-rising.wikia.com/wiki/Nectar_(Dead_Rising_2)

It has also been noted that in Dead Rising 1, the Coffee Creamer item looked much like a jug of chocolate milk; this may be relevant:
http://deadrising.wikia.com/wiki/Coffee_Creamer_(Dead_Rising)

Jubilee
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88813719622123520
Jubilee is Asian. "Yellow fever" is a slang term for having a sexual appetite for Asian women:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yellow+fever

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88804888468930560
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88804942478974976
Recently, Jubilee was bitten by a vampire, and is now one herself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_(comics)#Vampire_abilities

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88868885465538560
Jubilee is mentioned again.

Roll
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88700157037785088
Roll is always helping around the lab in the original Megaman games.

The voice actress for Roll in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Hiromi Igarashi, was recently seen at an event with Niitsuma:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/995375-marvel-vs-capcom-3-fate-of-two-worlds/59045947/655500347

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88700108446760961
"Ryuusei" can mean "meteor" or "star" in English. Some have taken this as a hint toward a Starforce iteration of Roll appearing.

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88810596581130241
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88811838007025664
Some have taken Roll being toy-like, and a "robochick" to relate to these tweets.

Megaman Starforce
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88481992273952768
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88482079121219584
The Starforce series has characters called "wizards". Among those wizards is a character named Omega-Xis:
http://megaman.wikia.com/wiki/Omega-Xis
This character is specifically blue and green. When Megaman acquires new abilities in this game, he changes color.

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88700108446760961
"Ryuusei" can mean "meteor" or "star" in English. Some have taken this as a hint toward a Starforce character appearing.

Ms. Marvel
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88624060304605184
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88629994527522816
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88630071476228096
These are all lyrics from the song "To Your Beat", by M-Flo:
http://www.kiwi-musume.com/lyrics/m-flo/beatspacenine/toyourbeat.html

When Rogue absorbs Ms. Marvel's powers, she also accidentally permanently absorbs her psyche. The line could be a hint toward Rogue, or instead toward Ms. Marvel, due to the "you" in the line. Some have taken these lyrics as a hint toward Cammy, as Kylie Minogue played her in the Street Fighter movie.

Shining star in heart; this is Ms. Marvel's original uniform:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/15354-2910-17111-1-ms-marvel_super.jpg

Regarding the babies comment, I will just link to this:
http://www.carolastrickland.com/comics/msmarvel/msmarvel2.html

Dr. Strange/Mysterio/Gill
Master Chibi on SRK confirmed that one of the three would be present in the game:
http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/lupinko-says-there-will-be-a-super-mvc3.132023/page-45#post-5529727

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88481992273952768
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88482079121219584
Some interpret these hints to be toward Dr. Strange, as he wears a many-colored robe, performs "wizardry", and his spells often look like amorphous jello:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Strange

I have not seen a formal argument for Mysterio aside from him being a wizard who also wears a multi-colored outfit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysterio

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88657377108299777
Aegis Reflector is a move of Urien's in Street Fighter III. Gill is the brother of Urien; some people believe there to be a connection here.

Rival School Character
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88700108446760961
"Ryuusei" can mean "meteor" or "star" in English. It is part of the name of one of Batsu's signature attacks in Rival Schools, the "Shooting Star Kick"; Batsu was also present in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom:
http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Batsu_Ichimonji

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88480974983270402
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88479637822390272
Not much to this; a reference to school. Batsu is a poor student in school.

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88625359037276161
Some have taken this as an indication of Shoma Sawamura:
http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Shoma_Sawamura

Megaman X Character
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88810736704425985
There is a relationship between the Megaman X series and Blade Runner plotlines:
http://30ninjas.com/blog/megaman-vs-rick-deckard-android-versus-replicant

Cable
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88499767067422720
This bears mention because the tweet confused a lot of people. Without Chibi's assistance, people likely never would have understood it. At first the message was incoherent, because Lupinko said the wrong name:
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88657377108299777

James Howlett is Wolverine's true name:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_(comics)

In the X-Men series, Cable gives Wolverine the Legacy Virus so his healing factor will develop antibodies that can be used to stop the outbreak from happening; hence, it would have been nice if Cable would have done this for AIDS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_Virus

In Ultimate X-Men, Cable is a future version of Wolverine; possibly relevant:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_(comics)#Ultimate_Cable

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88907927464837121
This line has been attributed to Cable; I have no source.

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89007693485977600
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89007734053285888
Some have taken this to be a reference to Cable, as he is from the future.
 

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Seems like they're making the game Marvel vs Capcom vs Xmen
So... a MvC game? MvC3 is the only game that bucks that trend unfortunately :(

As long as the amount of Street Fighter characters is kept low I'm fine with X-Men. After all, there's a lot of X-Men. Makes sense there'd be a lot of them worth using.
 

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Wouldn't Rathalos be a boss character or something? He looks big.
He could be smaller than Sentinel. Monster Hunter bosses differ in size each time you fight them. I have fought a Rathalos that takes up most of my screen, as we as a Rathalos only slightly larger than my character.
 

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I think a Hunter from MH would be bad ass! But I'm definitely not gonna hold my breathe. Just thinking of the weapon possibilities X_X.
 

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If I have any energy left in my body, I'm going to update the wrap up I made and post it with relevant information from the past day, but yesterday.

A lot of nice points there Karsticles. I feel like teh internetz should focus on the MMSF trail next.
 

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I think a Hunter from MH would be bad ass! But I'm definitely not gonna hold my breathe. Just thinking of the weapon possibilities X_X.
This would not work, because they would have to choose just one weapon. The key part of being a hunter is only bringing one weapon to a hunt. They couldn't pull a "Dante" with a generic hunter - it wouldn't feel right.
 

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The best thing about the realization of a SMvsC3 to me is that it means we will probably never have to wait 10 years again for another sequel. I'd imagine we'll get another numbered sequel (MvsC4) sometime next generation. This makes me very happy.
 

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Also Karsticles you should probably read up on all the stuff you missed, the Aids tweet was discussed to death, it's either a deconfirmation of Cable or Gill or Bishop.
 

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Also Karsticles you should probably read up on all the stuff you missed, the Aids tweet was discussed to death, it's either a deconfirmation of Cable or Gill or Bishop.
Honestly, that took me 4 hours to put together. For a while, if people want to make arguments, I'll include them, but I don't intend on doing a bunch of research right now. Some are strongly arguing that it's a hint that Bishop will be included. I'm not a comic guy, so I need it all laid out for me if there's a case one way or the other.
 

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I believe Karsticles summary should be added to OP and edited whenever some of the stuff is deconfirmed.
 

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Karsticles said:
This would not work, because they would have to choose just one weapon. The key part of being a hunter is only bringing one weapon to a hunt. They couldn't pull a "Dante" with a generic hunter - it wouldn't feel right.
You are right but I almost feel like they could do whatever they want with the Hunter to represent the series...a guy can dream! lol.
 

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I think it was enzo who quoted a ton of lupinko stuff a few pages back and one of them said something like "three of the characters in the last thread are right". Which thread was that?
 

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not going to happen, he loves the attention to much. the guy is monitoring at least 3 message boards and watching everybody freak out at every word he says around the clock.
He is an obnoxious attention whore who also just happens to have insider info.
 

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Karsticles said:
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/88700108446760961
"Ryuusei" can mean "meteor" or "star" in English. Some have taken this as a hint toward a Starforce character appearing.
Well, to be more specific on that, the japanese name of Mega Man Star Force is Ryuusei no Rockman, so there's that.

Anyway, hype, etc.
 

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Some of these theories are seriously crazier than some of the stuff that went on in the Smash Bros. Dojo thread.


ColtraineGF said:
Well, to be more specific on that, the japanese name of Mega Man Star Force is Ryuusei no Rockman, so there's that.

Anyway, hype, etc.

The Ryuusei thing is just another M-Flo lyrics thing, you guys.

M-Flo is short for Meteor-Flo because Verbal refers to himself as "Johnny Astro" so he's always throwing that 'Ryuusei sound' lyrics shit in his songs.

You guys are making mountains out of molehills.
 

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Karsticles said:
Honestly, that took me 4 hours to put together. For a while, if people want to make arguments, I'll include them, but I don't intend on doing a bunch of research right now. Some are strongly arguing that it's a hint that Bishop will be included. I'm not a comic guy, so I need it all laid out for me if there's a case one way or the other.
I know, believe me man I did the same yesterday. I did a massive wrap up with explanations and it even had sources accredited to whomever brought stuff up first across forums that I was riiiight about to post, and then MasterChibi and Lupinko came back in and shook the ground beneath us. The bit about Aegis Reflector isn't just about theories anymore, whilst you were gone we were bombarded with more hints that narrowed down the hints towards that character quite a fair bit. To point where we had the right answer infront of us, just we don't know which one it is.

I plan on revising it tonight with the oodles of info we received in the past day.
 

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He better be... or else !
I'm going to be super pissed if Doc Ock is not in considering he was in the source files and a classic Spidey villain was a glaring omission. That's all I want out of this. The rest is a bouns.
 
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All I can tell about Bishop is that he's not that relevant in the Marvel Universe at this time.
 

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Hey, Enzo http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29152722&postcount=1590

The one that starts with 3 and it says "I'll throw you a bone or two, 3 of the guesses so far in this thread are correct". What thread is he talking about?
That was a post Chibi made in the gigantic SRK Lupinko thread about 40 pages in. There's not much merit to that since a ton of guesses were made in those 40 pages. Could be useful in disconfirming though if someone is willing to compile all the guesses in those 40 or so pages, I suppose.
 

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I know, believe me man I did the same yesterday. I did a massive wrap up with explanations and it even had sources accredited to whomever brought stuff up first across forums that I was riiiight about to post, and then MasterChibi and Lupinko came back in and shook the ground beneath us. The bit about Aegis Reflector isn't just about theories anymore, whilst you were gone we were bombarded with more hints that narrowed down the hints towards that character quite a fair bit. To point where we had the right answer infront of us, just we don't know which one it is.

I plan on revising it tonight with the oodles of info we received in the past day.
Well, all of our efforts might be a waste:

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89395217412800513
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89396062082707456

We're being called too dumb for this stuff, haha. :-(
 

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Well, all of our efforts might be a waste:

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89395217412800513
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89396062082707456

We're being called too dumb for this stuff, haha. :-(
I guess we still win at the end of the day if we still get leaks!

I cant get mad at Lupinko no matter how hard I try. He gave us two megaton bombs already: Strider and Phoenix Wright.

SHIT JUST GOT EASY.
 
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Well, all of our efforts might be a waste:

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89395217412800513
http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/89396062082707456

We're being called too dumb for this stuff, haha. :-(
Not sure why calling us names is necessary....
 
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It's really easy for me to get mad at Lupinko. I think he's an asshole for leaking this shit, just like people who post torrents of games/books/movies before they get released. The biggest advertising a fighting game can get is character reveals. If they get leaked, then less websites/magazines/tv shows will be willing to do interviews and specials because they don't have exclusive content to bring in hits. Releasing the whole roster before the game is even announced is fucking with their entire marketing strategy. These people making these games aren't robots, they spend a lot of time working on this to get people excited.

On top of that Lupinko is fucking with people because it gives him a hard on. He doesn't give a fuck if people know what's in the game or not, he just likes people posting about him. I wish he would stop the leaks and just disappear.
 

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To be frank, though, not all fault is to be sought among us (and other people trying to decipher the riddles).
Since nobody can figure it the fuck out, then obviously the riddle is too difficult. Remember that you have to be able to make connections.

Honestly, if I tried, I could link almost every character in the entire Marvel Universe with one or more of Lupinko's tweets (Capcom not so much cause I hardly know any of the more obscure Capcom series).

Of course it's easy to swat your forehead and be like "Oh God you guys are so dumb" if you are sitting on the other side, but on our side, the clueless side, we have trouble finding the right connections. And just calling us names is not gonna make it any better. :V
 

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Ghost Rider, Venom, Vergil is all I need. Doc Ock would be great just to see how he plays, too.

I am so wet.
 

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it wasn't difficult. difficult is like saying we couldn't do it because we're dumb.

the point is, he's an idiot and can't figure out how to design a puzzle. this shit would be simpler if he was like "i'm giving a clue ever 4 hours until comic con that will slow reveal characters. clue one: 5 of the characters have the letter 'e' at least 4 times in their name"

instead, he goes back to "the flounder strikes at dawn" over and over
 
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