lukilladog
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Cpu is a variant of snapdragon 865 and adreno 650 is listed as smartphone and tablet gpu.
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SUPERHOT VR sales platform split really highlight how dominating Oculus Quest is over other VR headsets
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Cpu is a variant of snapdragon 865 and adreno 650 is listed as smartphone and tablet gpu.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
Are you sure that's not a used PSVR? That looks like the launch bundle with the junction box that won't passthrough HDR.
In the US the 128GB Quest 2 is $299, the 256GB one is $399. The latest model PSVR is still $400.
The CPU is the Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 which was designed specifically for VR/AR.
People calling the Quest 2 a cellphone VR headset never used one, and are trolling.
GHG
Gold Member
Exactly. So how can you say the following?:
Someone points you towards the article to correct you and instead of you reading the article you then go and say something else that's completely untrue. Not a fan of facts are we?
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
Except you don't even need wired for PC anymore. There is ZERO argument for tethering a VR headset to a device in 2022.
lukilladog
Member
Specs and performance are pretty similar, slightly tweaked 865. And the gpu is listed as smartphone and tablet gpu.
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M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Maybe older picture (it's not available atm), but it's legit price for new unit, it always cost like this. I bought one for my brother around year and half ago. It was same price 8900CZK, which is 400 USD without that 21% VAT, same trick which they did with Vita here. But Oculus never went below 10K CZK (~500USD)...
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
Just wait for one of the 30% off coupons and use it on those.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
kingfey
Banned
Oh, I went with prices here:
It's 30% cheaper and comes with at least something, I think the price is what is more important. Not sure if we are getting shafted by FB with the prices. But ain't no 299 happening here.
Gamestop is selling it at $299.
I've only had the Quest 2 for like a month, but haven't received a coupon. I get emails from them though. Do you know if they mention the coupon in the email title, or is it buried in their advertisement emails?
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Good, but importing it would cost me probably double that. Shipping, taxes, CLO. We don't have gamestop here.
kingfey
Banned
What about amazon?
Romulus
Member
Don't bother. Every VR thread, he has a negative spin, no matter the data. Quest could sell 100 million in 1 year and he'd have something bad to say. He has severe motion sickness and wants the tech to fail, so positive news is insulting to him.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Only from US, so all of that applies, sadly for some unknown reason I can buy shit from the Amazon Germany, which is few kms away. It's warehouse, so you can't just go there and buy shit. There it cost 299EUR, which would be better. But I have Valve Index as of now, pretty happy with that. I am waiting for something with substantially more pixel density.
kingfey
Banned
Oculus for Business | Enterprise-Grade Virtual Reality
Find out how Oculus for Business provides enterprise-ready virtual reality solutions. Explore new ways to connect, train, share, and learn using the power of VR.
Processor: Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ XR2 Platform
"The Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 5G Platform is the world’s first XR platform to unite 5G and AI. Built to enable unrivaled extended reality experiences, the Snapdragon XR2 5G Platform enables users to explore every angle of their virtual world in 360° spherical view that captures the scene in vivid detail. And with rich 3D audio, users can experience high-fidelity sound in all directions."
Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 5G Platform | Qualcomm
The Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 5G Platform is first XR (extended reality) platform to unite 5G and AI for fantastic augmented reality (AR) and virtual reality (VR) experiences.
Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 Platform Commercially Debuts in Oculus Quest 2 | Qualcomm
Qualcomm Technologies, Inc., a subsidiary of Qualcomm Incorporated, is powering better-than-ever virtual reality (VR) gameplay and experiences with the launch of Oculus Quest 2, the first-to-launch VR device powered by the QualcommÒ Snapdragon™ XR2
I dont see phones here buddy.
kingfey
Banned
Its sucks to have no support in your country.
Glad you have Valve index. More powerful than quest 2.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
The Alzasoft is the biggest one here and it's pretty good. They don't jack up prices is more to do with some stupid price politics of the FB. I bought Index in the Steam Store no issues, no import fees and it arrive with UPS, so it was probably from states. Price was US price + 21% VAT, which is pretty good deal.
kuncol02
Banned
You should be able to buy Quest on Oculus site. It's 350 eur with free shipping (at least in Poland). That PlaystationVR set was available for like 200eur years ago in Poland and IMO it was still way overpriced. That's terrible device which should never be sold in that form. Lack of proper tracking and controllers are disqualifying it from any comparison with other VR devices.Oh, I went with prices here:
It's 30% cheaper and comes with at least something, I think the price is what is more important. Not sure if we are getting shafted by FB with the prices. But ain't no 299 happening here.
Rivet
Member
I have both PSVR and Quest 2. Not everything was bad, PSVR was actually more comfortable than Quest 2 and the screen was nice for its time, but it's an old device now and it shows. Controls definitely lacked precision and were the weak point for sure, along with the cable forest not allowing HDR passthrough in first version.
VR is evolving very quickly. PSVR1 is basically a dinosaur at this point. You can't compare a 2016 device with a 2020 device... PSVR2 should change everything pretty soon.
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You think companies would prefer to make a game targeting a handful of buyers, vs a MUCH bigger, more active ecosystem?
The Quest 2 is a godsend for many many VR developers.
Grumpy Toe Nail
Banned
Pretty lame since they do exclusives. Basically stopped playing VR partially because of oculus taking games i would have bought. Personally think the graphics in VR are still too shit and i use an Index paired with a 3090, couldn't imagine choosing to play something on an oculus.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Picked up a PS4 VR headset to check it out, its cool you can get physical with gaming. Its one of those things you have to try it, give up yourself and surroundings. Price wise they're 3rd, 4th, 5th on peoples priorities list.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
But you could play those 3090 games on an Oculus. Wirelessly.
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Grumpy Toe Nail
Banned
The resolution is just too bad for me.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Well, the fact that the game is selling at a faster rate and not diminish over time like most old games on flat screen, is a testament that Quest 2 is bringing in lots of new users who have never touch VR before at rapid rate, and not just selling to returning VR users.
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Punished Miku
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I got quest for Christmas and superhot was on sale for like $17
DarthBuzzer
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THE DUCK
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Yes, agreed. I still have concern though that many of these users are trying it for a while, buying a bunch, then never touching it again. But as others have said, same thing may happen with consoles.
Stitch
Gold Member
Quest 2 Resolution is higher than the Index Resolution
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
How do you even compare their performance in the first place when they couldn't be anymore different?
Romulus
Member
Then in terms of resolution, you're playing on a mid-tier device at best. Quest 2 is superior, and the G2 is better than Quest 2 lol
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Grumpy Toe Nail
Banned
sorry i guess resolution is the only thing it actually does better lol. 72 hz sounds fucking trash imo. Also not about to make a facebook account.
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MrFunSocks
Banned
Anything you’ve heard about the PSVR 2 is just fanboys hopes and dreams because it hasn’t had anything announced.
Yes the Quest 3 will likely release in the second half of the year.
Grumpy Toe Nail
Banned
I mean i didnt fucking develop the thing lol but a quick google search tells me otherwise. https://studiox.lib.rochester.edu/oculus-quest-2-specifications/
Stitch
Gold Member
Your Google-fu is weak
uploadvr.com
Every Game That Supports 120Hz On Oculus Quest 2
With the v28 software update, Oculus Quest 2 now has experimental support for a 120Hz refresh rate. Here’s every Oculus Store game that can run at 120Hz on Quest 2 (so far). The Quest 2 shipped last year with just a 72Hz refresh rate — the same as the original
uploadvr.com
MrFunSocks
Banned
It’s hilarious that you say this like it’s any better lol
ethomaz
Banned
Facts > Your made up lies.
And yes it is pretty good… the biggest game fused VR device.
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ManaByte
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lukilladog
Member
I don´t even know if it is active enough, I think most people buying the quest are not interested on the gaming side of it. But supposing a good portion is and it starts to gain traction, we can forget about having many next gen games on VR.
lukilladog
Member
Oculus for Business | Enterprise-Grade Virtual Reality
Find out how Oculus for Business provides enterprise-ready virtual reality solutions. Explore new ways to connect, train, share, and learn using the power of VR.business.oculus.com
Processor: Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ XR2 Platform
"The Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 5G Platform is the world’s first XR platform to unite 5G and AI. Built to enable unrivaled extended reality experiences, the Snapdragon XR2 5G Platform enables users to explore every angle of their virtual world in 360° spherical view that captures the scene in vivid detail. And with rich 3D audio, users can experience high-fidelity sound in all directions."
Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 5G Platform | Qualcomm
The Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 5G Platform is first XR (extended reality) platform to unite 5G and AI for fantastic augmented reality (AR) and virtual reality (VR) experiences.www.qualcomm.com
Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 Platform Commercially Debuts in Oculus Quest 2 | Qualcomm
Qualcomm Technologies, Inc., a subsidiary of Qualcomm Incorporated, is powering better-than-ever virtual reality (VR) gameplay and experiences with the launch of Oculus Quest 2, the first-to-launch VR device powered by the QualcommÒ Snapdragon™ XR2
I dont see phones here buddy.
It is not marketed for phones, but it is tweaked phone and tablet hardware.
I don't understand why people can't grasp the concept that airlink (or wireless in general for future devices) doesn't need to use a cable regardless if your playing HL Alyx or Beat Saber. It's like saying you need to plug a controller in with a wire for fortnite because you got to press alot of buttons.
LaughingStock
Member
I honestly can't tell the difference between wired (oculus link) or wireless (virtual desktop or air link).
kingfey
Banned
You are mistaken them with Snapdragon 888,Snapdragon 765 and Snapdragon 865. They are numbered snapdragon. Different chip.
There is also Snapdragon X52 5G modem.
Qualcomm Snapdragon - Wikipedia
lukilladog
Member
They don´t look that different to me:
Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 5G vs Qualcomm SM8250 Snapdragon 865 5G - GadgetVersus
Comparison between Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 5G and Qualcomm SM8250 Snapdragon 865 5G with the specifications of the processors, the number of cores, threads, cache memory, also the performance in benchmark platforms such as Geekbench, Passmark, Cinebench or AnTuTu.
gadgetversus.com
kingfey
Banned
There is tons of difference.They don´t look that different to me:
Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 5G vs Qualcomm SM8250 Snapdragon 865 5G - GadgetVersus
Comparison between Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 5G and Qualcomm SM8250 Snapdragon 865 5G with the specifications of the processors, the number of cores, threads, cache memory, also the performance in benchmark platforms such as Geekbench, Passmark, Cinebench or AnTuTu.
| Processor | Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 | Qualcomm SM8250 Snapdragon 865 5G | ||||||
| Market (main) | Augmented reality | Smartphone | ||||||
| ISA | ARMv8-A (64-bit) | ARMv8-A (64-bit) | ||||||
| Microarchitecture | Kryo Gold, Kryo Silver | Cortex-A77, Cortex-A55 | ||||||
| Core name | Kryo Gold, Kryo Silver | Kryo 585 Prime, Kryo 585 Gold, Kryo 585 Silver | ||||||
| Family | Snapdragon | Snapdragon 800 | ||||||
| Part number(s), S-Spec | XR2 | SM8250, SDM865 | ||||||
| Release date | Q1 2020 | Q4 2019 | ||||||
| Lithography | 7 nm | 7 nm N7P | ||||||
| Cores | 8 | 8 | ||||||
| Threads | 8 | 8 | ||||||
| Base frequency | 1.8 GHz | 1.8 GHz | ||||||
| Turbo frequency | 2.5 GHz | 2.8 GHz | ||||||
| Energy cores | 6x qualcomm Kryo Silver @ 1.80 GHz | 4x Qualcomm Kryo 585 Silver @ 1.8 GHz | ||||||
| High performance cores | 2x Qualcomm Kryo Gold @ 2.5 GHz | 1x Qualcomm Kryo 585 Prime @ 2.84 GHz 3x Qualcomm Kryo 585 Gold @ 2.42 GHz | ||||||
| Cache memory | 2 MB | 2 MB | ||||||
| Max memory capacity | 8 GB | 16 GB | ||||||
| Memory types | LPDDR4X | LPDDR4X-2133, LPDDR5-2750 | ||||||
| TDP | 10 W | 10 W | ||||||
| GPU integrated graphics | Qualcomm Adreno 650 | Qualcomm Adreno 650 | ||||||
| GPU execution units | 2 | 2 | ||||||
| GPU shading units | 512 | 512 | ||||||
| GPU base clock | - | 587 MHz | ||||||
| GPU boost clock | 587 MHz | 587 MHz | ||||||
| GPU FP32 floating point | 1,267 GFLOPS | 1,250 GFLOPS | ||||||
| Socket | SoC | SoC | ||||||
| (Android) Geekbench 5 single core | 924 | 824 | ||||||
| (Android) Geekbench 5 multi-core | 3,416 | 3,069 |
lukilladog
Member
You are mistaken them with Snapdragon 888,Snapdragon 765 and Snapdragon 865. They are numbered snapdragon. Different chip.
There is also Snapdragon X52 5G modem.
Qualcomm Snapdragon - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Are you serious?. Both have performance Kyro gold cores, same gpu, cores, clocks, etc. Of course the Xr2 has VR specific features, but it is a phone/tablet intended cpu/gpu at its core.
kingfey
Banned
Performances :
Performance comparison between the two processors, for this we consider the results generated on benchmark software such as Geekbench 4.
On Android:
| Geekbench 5 - Multi-core & single core score - Android | |
|---|---|
Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2
| 924 3,416 |
| Qualcomm SM8250 Snapdragon 865 5G
| 824 3,069 |
In single core, the difference is 12%. In multi-core, the differential gap is 11%.