Yep, the biggest surprise for me personally was the inclusion of PCIe-based SSD - Gen 4.0, no less. I knew they were definitely going with SSD this time around but expected both consoles to be SATA-based. Sony's solution was the most surprising.People on Neogaf screamed for big expensive powerful give-it-to-me-all consoles and they got that. The Xbox Series X is a small PC case in disguise and the PS5 is a spaceship and both are flaunting amazing hardware not thought possible 2-3 years ago.
Biggest surprise for me was a console releasing in 2020 having a 12.2 TF RDNA2 GPU.Yep, the biggest surprise for me personally was the inclusion of PCIe-based SSD - Gen 4.0, no less. I knew they were definitely going with SSD this time around but expected both consoles to be SATA-based. Sony's solution was the most surprising.
Absolutely disgraceful criticism. PlayStation's design is complex and novel, while Xbox's is simple and conventional.Because better engineering by Xbox team this time. Simple as that really.
Both consoles are pcie 4.0 even that proprietary expandable storage cardYep, the biggest surprise for me personally was the inclusion of PCIe-based SSD - Gen 4.0, no less. I knew they were definitely going with SSD this time around but expected both consoles to be SATA-based. Sony's solution was the most surprising.
Yep, the biggest surprise for me personally was the inclusion of PCIe-based SSD - Gen 4.0, no less. I knew they were definitely going with SSD this time around but expected both consoles to be SATA-based. Sony's solution was the most surprising.
Absolutely disgraceful criticism. PlayStation's design is complex and novel, while Xbox's is simple and conventional.
You're giving facts to a moron troll, waste of your time.
Absolutely disgraceful criticism. PlayStation's design is complex and novel,
*-20% less powerful on paper (in terms of bandwidth) than SX. PS4 Pro and X1X had an even larger difference in specs than PS5/XSX have. One X had 43% computational power and 50% mem bandwidth advantage.I'd just like to point out the obvious that XSX is also based on the same RDNA2 so everything you're saying applies to it also.
why is it nearly twice as big and still 25% less powerful?
I wouldn't say "better CPU". Games will be utilizing SMT heavily moving forward (and we know Dirt 5 already does), so the difference between PS5/XSX in regards to CPU with SMT is like 3%.He means that the XSX has a better CPU and a better GPU at locked clock speeds.
An even bigger surprise for me was to see 30-36 TF GPU releasing for PC before 10.3-12.2 TF consoles.Biggest surprise for me was a console releasing in 2020 having a 12.2 TF RDNA2 GPU.
Yep, both are Gen 4-based, but SX uses x2 lanes supposedly? PS5 uses x4 lanes. Also knew about the PS4's internal drive solution going to USB. The SATA on base PS4 was not even SATA 3, it was SATA 2 apparently. To cut costs, I guess? This is why it surprised me the most when they went with PCIe Gen 4.Both consoles are pcie 4.0 even that proprietary expandable storage card
You wanna know something goofy the internal drive on the ps4 goes from Sata to usb before reaching the southbridge.
It's just a square prism with a huge fan at its top. There's nothing complex about this design.You got that hilariously backwards bub.
"Simple and conventional"
Your percentages are meaningless when talking about a console that uses variable clock speeds. This reminds me people’s surprise when the Xbox one x version of RDR2 pushed double the pixels of the ps4 pro. Bububut ,the percentages....*-20% less powerful on paper (in terms of bandwidth) than SX. PS4 Pro and X1X had an even larger difference in specs than PS5/XSX have. One X had 43% computational power and 50% mem bandwidth advantage.
I wouldn't say "better CPU". Games will be utilizing SMT heavily moving forward (and we know Dirt 5 already does), so the difference between PS5/XSX in regards to CPU with SMT is like 3%.
An even bigger surprise for me was to see 30-36 TF GPU releasing for PC before 10.3-12.2 TF consoles.
Yep, both are Gen 4-based, but SX uses x2 lanes supposedly? PS5 uses x4 lanes. Also knew about the PS4's internal drive solution going to USB. The SATA on base PS4 was not even SATA 3, it was SATA 2 apparently. To cut costs, I guess? This is why it surprised me the most when they went with PCIe Gen 4.
You mean other than needing to make everything fit in a way that allows air to pass over everything to keep it cool? But do inform us of all those other consoles that exist that use the same split board config of the Xsx. As opposed to just another flat pcb blower design in an extremely spacious box.It's just a square prism with a huge fan at its top. There's nothing complex about this design.
Definitely. Tbh, I think even Demon's Souls visuals are gonna pale in comparison to Naughty Dog, Rockstar's full next-gen games in 2-3 years.True the SSD that is way faster than I expected it to be. At best I thought it could be a SSD HDD hybrid system, but that they actually included an SSD faster than that of my 2019 NVME SSD is insane.
Also 10.2 and 12 RDNA 2 TF are amazing. A few years ago I expected 8-10 GCN TF, but RDNA2 performance completely shits on that. And the CPU is a huge step up as well.
Many people that don't expect next gen (XSX/PS5) games to look good will change their minds in 2-4 years. I think Demon's Souls is an early taste of what is to come and once we are further in the cycle and the exclusive studios start sharing their work it will be jaws on the floor.
Absolutely disgraceful criticism. PlayStation's design is complex and novel, while Xbox's is simple and conventional.
No that is the size. It's not like saying i'm 7ft but 1ft of that is my affro.The outer white shells make it bigger than it actually is, especially the DE version.
RDR2 is an exception and very memory intensive as well at higher resolutions. X1X also had 64% more RAM available to it for games than PS4 Pro (5.5GB vs 9GB). PS5/XSX both have the same amount of RAM.Your percentages are meaningless when talking about a console that uses variable clock speeds. This reminds me people’s surprise when the Xbox one x version of RDR2 pushed double the pixels of the ps4 pro. Bububut ,the percentages....
They are there to direct air flow and prevent people from putting the console in tight spaces.The outer white shells make it bigger than it actually is, especially the DE version.
The dimensions are the same to simply keep both of them consistent in their design.You can see hints of the PS5 design being unrefined the fact that the disc less version has the same dimensions.
1. They're not overclocking as we are seeing a 40 CU RDNA 2 GPU is hitting up to 2.5 GHz.My guess is the PS5 had late design changes because they underestimated the CU they would need and had to pivot to heavily overclocking to have hardware specs competitive to xbox so they had to add more heatsinks into the box to keep it from throttling.
Still pushed 100% more pixels, with better graphics on top of that. I could mention more games, just chose the most obvious one.RDR2 is an exception and very memory intensive as well at higher resolutions. X1X also had 64% more RAM available to it for games than PS4 Pro (5.5GB vs 9GB). PS5/XSX both have the same amount of RAM.
PS4 Pro could too, like I said, the higher the resolution, the more memory is required. And X1X has 64% more available to games than Pro. There's a GPU-heavy scene (cutscene) in RDR2 where X1X drops frame-rate much more than PS4 Pro suggesting that Pro isn't pushed as harder as the One X in terms of resolution.Still pushed 100% more pixels, with better graphics on top of that. I could mention more games, just chose the most obvious one.
I highly doubt any devs using the GDK can squeeze out >90% of the Series X max theoretical power. (maybe even less before the GDK evolves over time)He means that the XSX has a better CPU and a better GPU at locked clock speeds.
They also made it heavy so that people can't throw it around.It's the Cooling for the GPU that makes it a lot more bigger. Also bigger cooling = less noise and everything has to be covered up tight so no open fans anywhere because idiots will throw these boxes around like its nothing.
We'll know why after the first teardown video.