Time Cube Redux: Space Moors, Freemasons, black means white, there was no slavery

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In a older thread I made a comment on how Europeans born in America aren't Americans, they are what their parents lineage is so if your ancestors are Irish or English and you were born here in America, you're Irish or English who so happens to have US citizenship. The US is a corporate entity, not a country, which occupies a portion of North America. America denotes a continent, not country, so why do we ignorantly accept America as the particular landmass the US occupies?

Nation:
c.1300, from Old French nacion "birth, rank; descendants, relatives; country, homeland" (12c.) and directly from Latin nationem (nominative natio) "birth, origin; breed, stock, kind, species; race of people, tribe," literally "that which has been born," from natus, past participle of nasci "be born" (Old Latin gnasci; see genus). Political sense has gradually predominated, but earliest English examples inclined toward the racial meaning "large group of people with common ancestry." Older sense preserved in application to North American Indian peoples (1640s). Nation-building first attested 1907 (implied in nation-builder).
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?l=n&p=2

Your nationality isn't based on where you're born but your pedigree, lineage and descent. If a English couple birth a child in Japan, is that child Japanese? No, the child is what his or her parents are but he or she can gain citizenship, basically a contract with the Government, with the Japanese Government, but doesn't mean he or she is all of a sudden Japanese because her or his lineage and descent is English, not Japanese.

American:
A native of America; originally applied to the aboriginals, or copper-colored races, found here by the Europeans; but now applied to the descendants of Europeans born in America.
http://machaut.uchicago.edu/?resource=Webster%27s&word=American&use1828=on

Notice how it says originally, what's original is the basis of learning the true meaning of words. Connotation has no place in the origin of a word's meaning and sadly enough, our language and understanding is based on connotative understanding which suppresses the culture.

Jus sanguinis is what determines one's Nation state or nationality, not where they're born.
 

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You cite a century-old dictionary. Language is dynamic and ever changing.

And America is short for the United States of America. People don't get their knickers in a bunch for saying Britain instead of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
 

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This is the like the 3rd topic in as many months that someone has taken great umbrage over the fact that Americans call themselves that instead of US citizens or some such nonsense. This is one of the most non-issue non-issues I've ever seen.
 
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Where do we draw the line on when you get to be from the country you were born in? I mean, arguably, we're all descendants from some nomadic group in Africa, right? Are we all just Africans who have citizenship in other countries then? Should I be rooting for Ghana instead of the US today?
 
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I'm not so sure we need the definitions to be so strict. Labels get messy fast enough as it is, let alone trying to correct them to be as accurate as possible by providing and using definitions people might not agree on in the first place. We are also conveniently ignoring things like cultural mixing and generational time spans. If the child to English parents in Japan grows up and has a child with a French person in the US, look how messy things have already become after one hypothetical generation.

If your nationality is your pedigree, this becomes impossible with a simple label. The subcategorizations for all the variables would effectively make it pointless.
 
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This is the like the 3rd topic in as many months that someone has taken great umbrage over the fact that Americans call themselves that instead of US citizens or some such nonsense. This is one of the most non-issue non-issues I've ever seen.
And yet they get so mad about it. I didn't even know it was a thing until those threads.
 
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Sounds like someone hates Freedom.
The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’
http://www.afn.org/~govern/bankruptcy.html

Come again?
 
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In a older thread I made a comment on how Europeans born in America aren't Americans, they are what their parents lineage is so if your ancestors are Irish or English and you were born here in America, you're Irish or English who so happens to have US citizenship. The US is a corporate entity, not a country, which occupies a portion of North America. America denotes a continent, not country, so why do we ignorantly accept America as the particular landmass the US occupies?
Oh, so you don't know what a corporation actually is? Good to know, so I can stop reading this nonsense right there.
 
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How come culture does not have anything to do with what we label ourselves? Despite the fact that I am a mix breed of many different European races and Native American, why would I consider myself anything but American when it is the culture I grew up in?
 
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The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’
http://www.afn.org/~govern/bankruptcy.html

Come again?
Sounds like some Pinko talk to me. Betsy Ross did not die in the war of 1812 for me to be ashamed of being America.
 

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So I can't say American and I can't say which state I'm from?

Let's just by NYLAns, since people know those cities are unquestionably in the US, and most of the country is between them.
 
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Really, what's so hard to understand about this point? Nationality and citizen are two different things but the former is simply based on your lineage. I can't birth a child in England and all of a sudden my child is English. Sure my child could get citizenship with the Government but that doesn't make England her or his nation.
 
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The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’
http://www.afn.org/~govern/bankruptcy.html

Come again?
Jesus fucking christ.
 
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OP can't distinguish between ethnicity and nationality.
"An ethnicity, or ethnic group, is a social group of people who identify with each other based on common ancestral, social, cultural, or national experience.[1][2] Membership of an ethnic group tends to be associated with shared cultural heritage, ancestry, history, homeland, language (dialect), or ideology, and with symbolic systems such as religion, mythology and ritual, cuisine, dressing style, physical appearance, etc."

Please read the define of nation in my OP.
 
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Really, what's so hard to understand about this point? Nationality and citizen are two different things but the former is simply based on your lineage. I can't birth a child in England and all of a sudden my child is English. Sure my child could get citizenship with the Government but that doesn't make England her or his nation.
That's for them to decide.
 
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Jesus fucking Christ what did I just read
I was thinking the same thing. Except what did I skim through and look for answers in the comments for?

People identify where they want to or where is most beneficial. I have like an 8th native blood but when filing for college stuff I push that like I'm sleeping in a teepee. Also who gives that much of a fuck what others do to long wind rant about this on a gaming forum?
 
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