DeepEnigma
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I believe it does because there's a separate setting from what I remember under the Blu-ray settings on the consoles that have it set to Limited.
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TV Calibration tip, RGB Limited VS Full
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I believe it does because there's a separate setting from what I remember under the Blu-ray settings on the consoles that have it set to Limited.
Hostile_18
Banned
Omg really? How could I have missed this I just presumed it would be under display preferences if there was one. I'll have a look now.
Edit: There isn't on the PS4 Pro but Auto should work fine.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Omg really? How could I have missed this I just presumed it would be under display preferences if there was one. I'll have a look now.
Edit: There isn't on the PS4 Pro but Auto should work fine.
I believe it is on the PS3 as a separate option. I will check later. I still use the PS3 to watch Blu-rays more so, because it's still a more feature-rich player.
But yes, auto works as well.
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Berserking Guts
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Don't yell at me, but basically if I'm playing on a TV I should set the console to limited and the TV to low because games are mastered to limited?
So you've got no choice but to bite the bullet and lose black and white gradient values from 0-16 and 235-255. Am I understanding it right?
So you've got no choice but to bite the bullet and lose black and white gradient values from 0-16 and 235-255. Am I understanding it right?
Whitecrow
Banned
Man is your understanding flawed...
You lose 255 - 235 white gradients and 0 -16 black gradients in limited versus full.
Why is that hard to understand.
And if you keep saying games are mastered on limited, you gotta bring us some proof. I'm waiting.
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Just fucking set everything to Auto and be done with it.
Shifty
Member
No, that's the actual misinformation here.
If your console outputs full-range and your TV has a setting for full-range, you'll get more colour precision by setting them both to full-range. You should only be telling the console to output limited if your TV doesn't support anything else.
Console has nothing to do with it. They're VESA-compliant devices, just like PC GPUs.
And what does that have to do with anything? Just because a feature is optional doesn't mean it isn't supported. Show me some receipts if you want to make claims like that.
"Made to be viewed on a TV" is a fiction in the context of videogames, simple as that.
Graphics APIs such as OpenGL and DirectX operate on a 0-255 value range when rendering SDR, and that's what games are developed against. The console (or PC) OS runs a linear remap algorithm on that output to convert it into a TV-compatible signal at render time if running in limited-range mode- the games literally do not know or care about what device they're outputting to.
Videos, on the other hand, are baked down to a set range at encode time. That is the 'mastering' process you refer to, and it has nothing to do with real-time 3D content like videogames.
And if a TV supports full range mode then limited is absolutely not the correct setting, because you're wasting the extra precision and causing colour crush by sending an incompatible signal. You match your input and output types, with no exception.
If you can't explain your reasoning and provide accurate information, then you're in no position to be calling out misinformation in the first place.
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zeomax
Member
I give up. Like xion4360 said "time to ignore this thread"
referencehometheater.com
RGB: Full vs. Limited – ReferenceHT
What is the difference between RGB Full and RGB Limited with a TV, and which should you use to get the best image possible?
referencehometheater.com
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Ulysses 31
Member
? 0oI give up. Like xion4360 said "time to ignore this thread"
RGB: Full vs. Limited – ReferenceHT
What is the difference between RGB Full and RGB Limited with a TV, and which should you use to get the best image possible?
If console and TV support full then set both to full, otherwise set both on limited.
Fake
Member
If you're using Sony TV brand for PS4, 'auto' usally works fine.
Fake
Member
I give up. Like xion4360 said "time to ignore this thread"
RGB: Full vs. Limited – ReferenceHT
What is the difference between RGB Full and RGB Limited with a TV, and which should you use to get the best image possible?
Or you two fall into ignorance and stop posting fo good or just accept others tech sites information. Its not that hard.
Simple that. Don't need to whining every post someone here make. No one is forcing you two to put 'limited' in settings.
Christ man, act like a grow up man.
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Berserking Guts
Member
I don't know who to listen to!
Better start googling for the next three hours...
Better start googling for the next three hours...
Hostile_18
Banned
What have i started 
anyone for another bump 2020 for the new consoles? Lol.
I think the best advice is just make sure your settings match either full-normal or limited-low. If there is a difference it's extremely limited *ahem* minor.
I think colour temp is actually more important. Hope your all using Warm 2!
anyone for another bump 2020 for the new consoles? Lol.I think the best advice is just make sure your settings match either full-normal or limited-low. If there is a difference it's extremely limited *ahem* minor.
I think colour temp is actually more important. Hope your all using Warm 2!
Shifty
Member
What have i started
Pretty much. The main place it'll show up is dark games like Doom 3 or the Thief reboot - if you feel like your character is blind in poorly-lit areas, the settings are mismatched.
And thus began the great colour temperature debate of 2019
I kid- colour temp is important, though it's more about matching the temperature of the lighting in your TV room than anything. Too cool and it'll fool your body's internal clock into thinking it's daytime and keep you awake, too warm and your screen will look yellow.
There's actually lifestyle software on PC like f.lux and windows 10's night light that'll adjust it automatically over the course of the day based on your timezone. Very handy for keeping the sleep-cycle in check if you're the type to stay up late staring at a screen.
Classic inability to substantiate one's position
Whitecrow
Banned
It may play some tricks on your mind due to your lighting conditions, maybe, but the temperature thing is standard some media art is designed around, that aims to match the white of your TV with the real life white on sunlight in order to get more accurate life-like color reproduction.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Warm>cool
Fight me
Fight me
grainflavour
Member
Cool all the way - looks brighter and more 'cool'. Warm is too yellow for games
This thread was a great read, can't wait to go home and fuck around with my two tvs and feedback
This thread was a great read, can't wait to go home and fuck around with my two tvs and feedback
iBeastSlayer-
Neo Member
What about the colours ? Do we have to use « Native » or « Automatic » on the TV ?
Whitecrow
Banned
Auto.
What Is The Color Space Setting in Samsung TV? | Samsung MY
FAQ for Samsung TV. Find more about 'What Is The Color Space Setting?' with Samsung Support.
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