Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
O yea they should be good. It may surpass it. If they fix it up a bit watch dogs could be huge(more than it already is)
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Ubisoft: The largest new IP launches of all time are #1 Destiny, #2 Watch Dogs, #3 AC
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Jonneh3003
Banned
Wii Sports was robbed.
Bits N Pieces
Member
Amazing what a bit of hype and a good marketing campaign can do for you.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Really??? Beta thread has been positive, both of them actually
Personally I feel it rather successfully makes a product that has both the Borderlands/Diablo/Destiny style PvE loot game and a more approach version of a DayZ-esque competitive mode with loot as well.
The former is almost always a hit, even with smaller products like Dragon Ball XenoVerse, and the latter is popular, but new to the AAA space.
I suspect it will have some content shortages, but overall I'm pretty bullish on the game's sales potential. People seemed to really like the beta as well.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I know so little about the game at this point but I disconnected from looking into it because the times I did jump into the beta thread it seemed a lot of people said the gunplay was really weak which say what you want about Destiny that game was only fun to me because the shooting felt so solid.
I truly had no idea it was getting such positive reactions. A Day-Z esque type game sounds quite intriguing though. I am definitely going to have to look into it.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
And being a good game of course
Mind, it's boiled down a bit to fit more in a loot game.
You enter this area where you can pick up contaminated, but powerful items, but you have to extract them a helicopter points (that take 1.5 minutes to finish and alert the whole zone) and other players can kill you and take them. You also get currency you can trade for really powerful items by going around and doing things or taking down players who killed other players for their loot. There are also a bunch of hard AI enemies around the place.
I feel like a lot of people don't realize how wide-open March has become after all the delays. The only other big multiplatform titles for the month are EA Sports UFC 2 and Hitman, and there's not much hype for either of those. Oddly enough, the biggest exclusives for the month are on the Wii U.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
This is so crazy I had no idea the game was like that. Is there an exploration aspect to the game or is it more closed in like Destiny?
Kind of? It's a big continuous open world, though usually your objectives are marked. There are some random things around though, especially in the dark zone, where you can find chests with loot in them or things like that. In the PvE area it's more collectibles type of stuff or resources to build up your base and unlock new skills/talents/crafting recipes/etc.
The PvE and PvP sections of the game also have separate leveling systems though you can share loot and abilities between them. The dark zone is level banded to facilitate that.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
So in the Dark Zone is where your going to run into PvP primarily right? Are you just randomly running into people or does it start a match or something?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
You randomly run into people and at that point you even watch your back,team up or go your separate ways its a game of trust the stranger essentially its awesome and terrifying
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
It's like a DayZ style map. You run into other players without warning and decide whether or not to shoot each other. No matches or matchmaking,
you're criticizing the proper ways, though.
LegendofLex
Member
The "proper way" to make a comparison across more than 30 years of games industry history is to use metrics that weren't even widely measured and reported on (and relevant) 30 years ago?
In most other circles, you'd call that "shifting the goalposts."
Amazing what a bit of hype and a good marketing campaign can do for you.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Yea alright sure. Me and plenty others. Forgot its ubisoft can't give them props
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
That sounds awesome. Dang you guys are getting me excited.
Last question, what was up with all the comments I saw about the gunplay feeling weak. Was there any truth to that?
Last question, what was up with all the comments I saw about the gunplay feeling weak. Was there any truth to that?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Not that i know of no. Th biggest fear i saw was bullet sponge enemies and that was dispelled with the beta. Btw theres an open beta if u wanna try it. Open now for xbox, open tomorrow 7amest for pc and ps4
shinobi602
Member
Honestly it felt that way at the beginning for me, but after playing for several hours and acquiring more powerful guns, I adapted to it quickly and they feel a lot better. I think some of the bullet spongey (its an RPG after all) enemies have to do with the feel of it too. They're not all like that but the higher level enemies do a bit.
And get on gchat damn it! Been 2 weeks bruh.
Stealth no exclusives?
Well, it's an RPG, so if your weapon becomes notably dated or you're max level and fighting people with endlessly better gear, they probably seem really tanky.
I didn't personally have issues with it, but I could imagine where some people might.
It might make sense to try the Dark Zone at Level 7 first (I think the max beta level is still 8) since it removes all the people who play 20 hours straight and have the best gear before anyone else.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Honestly it felt that way at the beginning for me, but after playing for several hours and acquiring more powerful guns, I adapted to it quickly and they feel a lot better. I think some of the bullet spongey (its an RPG after all) enemies have to do with the feel of it too. They're not all like that but the higher level enemies do a bit.
And get on gchat damn it! Been 2 weeks bruh.
Oh man awesome I am down.
Bro I tried to msg you yesterday did you not get it!
I don't care about the bullet spongeness(ha what even is that) I am more curious if it felt really good to just run around you know. Guns feel heavy and movement feels responsive.
Crazy that the word of mouth is strong. Puts a lot of strength into the "beta" model.
I wouldn't really give them props for Assassin's Creed 1 or Watch Dogs, personally.
It felt good to me, though I'll note I played it on PC, so I was running at 60 FPS and using a mouse instead of a controller.
It definitely felt better than Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel, which I was playing around the same time.
LegendofLex
Member
There's a lot to praise with AC1 as far as a concept that was executed, even if there was also lots of room for improvement and refinement.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Eh that's alright if that's your opinion im fine with it. I personally despise destiny but i wouldn't take anything away from it. Its a massive new ip that did well no way to dance around that people like the games
jabberwocker
Banned
What defines a launch ip? This data is skewed so may ways. If they mean first week last of us is in the top three. If they mean total sales where is wii sports? As its total sales beat any of the first titles of those games for total sales.
My guess is that Wii Sports and Minecraft do not count since they were not sold at the typical AAA price of $60.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
If you had to compare the movement to another game what would you say it plays most like?
Langdon Alger
Banned
Watch Dogs is more fun than GTA 5.
AssCreed and Destiny at least had ambition and innovation. Sure the industry and ubisoft itself made the open world and collectibles stuff very bad gaming memes but not the games fault.
What is really sad is Watch Dogs being there. It's just a really really bad GTA
It's been a few weeks since I've played it, but I can probably get back to you on Friday after I play some more. It's a pretty standard third person shooter for walking around, vaulting, and taking cover.
I should probably mention there's a second open beta going on right now if you want to try it that extends through the weekend.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Yeah I just saw some guys say that Ill grab it on X1.
NullPointer
Member
Three games that completely failed to live up to their promise at launch.
Go figure.
Given time they could all be great though. Definitely interested to see how Watch_Dogs 2 goes.
Go figure.
Given time they could all be great though. Definitely interested to see how Watch_Dogs 2 goes.
Hype, baby. Is all bout dat hype.
Lmao this is like some skewed figure to impress investors. What exactly are they defining by launch ? Only Day1? first month? first year? Thats not really fair since that and simultaneous Worldwide releases never really took off until last gen. Games were never as front loaded before.
Kinda unfair to the 30 years of gaming before it. Huge games like Pokemon launched months later in different regions. Mario and Sonic were literally responsible for the increased sales of their respective systems. Cant really do great launch numbers when your game is the one thats pushing units.
Kinda unfair to the 30 years of gaming before it. Huge games like Pokemon launched months later in different regions. Mario and Sonic were literally responsible for the increased sales of their respective systems. Cant really do great launch numbers when your game is the one thats pushing units.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
So this is the crown for the king of hype?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
The shooting mechanics outclass the hell out of GTA, the less scripted more open level and mission design was also a huge plus. As well as the fantastic control scheme made stealth and navigation smooth as hell compared to GTAV's ridiculous animation priority. Had a lot of fun with both.
How Much Sold the First AC? Because if i Remember correctly it sold ~6 million no?
Splatoon shoul Sell 7 million LT, if not 6 million is absolutely The minimum.
So, when all is well and done, Splatoon will outsell The First Assassin's Creed.
EDIT: Launch revenue, i thought Ubisoft was talking about Sales.
FunkyPajamas
Member
The power of bullshit marketing and bait and switch trailers :/
Vinterbird
Member
It was a perfect release at the perfect time and place. If Ubisoft can deliver good marketing and a solid game in the sequel, they could have a new AC like sized franchise on their hands. Incredible timing combined with some solid marketing, really impressive launch.
I would say, that the majority of the people that bought Wach Dogs had no idea about the reveal trailer, the downgrade chaos and all that. The people in the know about that is such a small amount of the overall gaming populous.
I think people reacted to a cool concept, some strong key art and the game overall looking fun. It might not have been the best thing ever made in the history of games, but I would be surprised if people didn't have fun with it outside of the hardcore forum community.
ZehDon
Gold Member
Basically. None of the three games were anything special, and served as little more than proof of concept. They were successful because of the marketing, less so the game itself.
theangrypirate
Member
I thought Nintendo guys really like Splatoon and it sold very well?