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Under 100k copies of Street Fighter V were shipped (incl dig) from April to September
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What's wrong with that for a game like this?
There are some games I wish had Year 2, Year 3, etc season passes...
Games that deserve it though. 99% of season passes should not be touched.
I'd be happy with a Black Ops 3 year 2, Driveclub Year 2, etc...
A fighting game feels like a perfect fit. No need to buy the Super / Turbo / etc versions later.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
Guys, Capcom wouldn't do a Super version. That'd require them to go back on their word.
When have Capcom ever gone back on their word?
When have Capcom ever gone back on their word?
I forgot about that. Arcade versions will definitely help Japanese sales and adding an arcade mode to the full game might help everywhere else. Not sure if it'll make that much of a difference though.
DryEyeRelief
Member
No, the new narrative now is that SF is a niche Japanese property like Nitro Blasters or Under Night in Birth so there's nothing wrong with SFV. It was always going to sell poorly.
Boy someone sure is salty about that.
What does SFVs flop have to do with SF brand ? You think if MKX released In the state SFV did it would get 5m sales ?
People assumed SFV would release in a proper state like MKX did .content and all.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
You can't half ass games of beloved franchises.
Hellsing321
Member
This is why you shouldn't design and ship a game intended for the EVO crowd first and hope more casual fans come later.
Release a renamed version with all the DLC. Get the game on shelves again (not in the bargain bin). Get some positive vibe going on for the Street Fighter name.
YianGaruga
Banned
what are you talking about? I'm pretty sure stuff like DOAX and Senran Kagura are profitable and that's ONLY because of the sexy stuff. They're mediocre games underneath.
That's how I understand "sex sells".
You have no idea how much that costume helped or hurt the sales. It's absolutely irrelevant to the discussion unless you can isolate the impact of it.
SF5 was released as a bad game, that's why it didn't sell. There are plenty games with sexy costumes that sold well.
DryEyeRelief
Member
You mean the lesson of not prioritizing the FGC?
Scrub Mcgrubb
Member
Yeah they put out their Q2 fiscal report this morning.... but obviously not even worth linking in the OP for people to have some context.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1301215
Sure beats buying a whole new version every time ala Guilty Gear and Blazblue.
With SFV the balance updates are free and it also lets you earn DLC characters via in game currency.
Recent data mining suggests Arcade mode is coming.
Capcom needs a rerelease for this game for $40 with all the contents when arcade mode is out it might sell few more copies or maybe call it season 2 or super so it gets re reviewed and the sheep gamers who worship games reviews pick it up since I'm more than sure the game in its current condition with arcade mode will be received will scores wise.
I can't agree with this at all. It just needed to be handled well, not be something else.
See, that's the thing I've always wondered about: how each fighting game franchise can appeal to so-called "casuals," who are clearly desperately needed for a fighting game to thrive.
Mortal Kombat has guest characters, a reputation for ultra-violence and a robust story mode.
Injustice has DC characters and a decent story.
Smash has Nintendo characters and an a approachable gameplay style.
Marvel vs Capcom has the Marvel franchise, and some Capcom characters I'm sure a few people might actually care about, probably.
What does Street Fighter have? It just feels like the franchise exists only for the benefit of the FGC, and no-one else. It needs a hook.
Obliterator
Member
Ah I remember that. Good times.
See the MK franchise has actually been managed properly in the past few installments. They've targeted the broadest demo possible by offering deep single player experiences as well as competitive. If you are even remotely interested in fighting games there is something in MK9 or MKX for you.
Street Fighter was like the polar opposite. It was asking $60 for basically only a hardcore competitive online fighter which at launch had almost nothing else to offer. That's a fairly tiny demographic
sleepwalkcapsules
Member
That will make the publishers and devs think twice about using a staggered/early access-like release model.
Shame that it had to happen do SFV.
Shame that it had to happen do SFV.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM SAYING
That the objetification of the game is completly useless and should not have existed because it did not helped the sales
I give up =P
I prefer a game that sells little but has a robust competitive scene than a game that sells a lot and is dead in half a dozen months.
YianGaruga
Banned
Except you have no way to prove that. Maybe it would have only sold 50k without Laura.
It makes no sense to try and spin the data as if it proves your point.
Obliterator
Member
But maybe the designers wanted it to exist and considering it had a marginal effect on sales at best what does it matter?
Just seems like a totally random aspect to bring up in a sales thread
mullet2000
Member
Sure. The monetization is heavily tied in with the game being a bad value in my book, though! It released with very little content then they had the gaul to charge for characters, stages, charge WAY too much for individual costumes, lock simple colours behind an absolutely terrible survival mode (and charge for them later), etc. If everything from these character/stage updates were free (actually free, not "it's possible to get using Fight Money" ""free"" which is unrealistic for the vast majority of players), and costumes were priced like SFIV costumes, this would be a different story.
On top of all that, yeah, even what non versus content that was there (like character story and survival mode) was terrible, as I mentioned before. The game is just a terrible value all-round, and them charging for almost everything post-release just makes that more obvious and off-putting.
Im a big SF guy and even I found myself really turned off by it. So you can imagine how the average potential customer looks at it.
agentofatlas
Member
How much revenue did it generate from dlc sales? That's probably what's Capcom is monitoring more. Copies sold is probably just thier KPI at this point.
pete_clarf
Member
That number is even more crazy considering that it includes the Amazon price error on 4/2 where they were selling it for $10.32.
I guess there's no way to tell how many people took advantage of that, but it had to be quite a few, I would think. Maybe 1000?
I guess there's no way to tell how many people took advantage of that, but it had to be quite a few, I would think. Maybe 1000?
Still the best fighting game I played this gen but Capcom did fuck up. It's weird they seem to have greatly underestimated the mass popularity of Sf and released it for the FGC. I will never be good enough for fgc but to play locally with friends/family is a blast. Release a version with all the updates included thus far next Feb and Season 2 fighters please. Love the game and want to see it succeed especially with all the content they have added to support the fanbase
This, the actual game is fun, i still play it quite often, but it was not a game that should have been released for 60 bucks, 30 at the most. Now? its probalby a 60 dollar game, but it took way long for it to happen.
Hell, i have it on the ps4 and on steam. Ill buy dlc content when it drops in price, im not in any hurry. I unlocked the characters i like and im good.
electroshockwave
Member
Those are numbers I'd like to see actually. I'd love to see the amount of people who bought Forza Horizon 3 when it was $20. We'll never get these numbers, but I bet it'd be interesting.
Eolz
Member
Hope they'll try to relaunch it properly for year 2, they fixed most of the stuff already. Still terrible DLC prices sadly. Worse than the previous game or competitors.
That statement is hilarious on so many levels.
That statement is hilarious on so many levels.
MKX still has a pretty good competitive scene and probably will until Injustice 2 releases. Both online and off.
randomengine
Banned
Yup that's pretty damn sad, but at same time deserved, considering how Capcom handled so many things. It'll probably go F2P anyway now.
All I can hope for is that, much like SF as a series post-HF/pre-IV, it can maintain its relatively small, dedicated playerbase. Not just so there's people to play against, but so they'll continue to provide new characters/gameplay features.
All I can hope for is that, much like SF as a series post-HF/pre-IV, it can maintain its relatively small, dedicated playerbase. Not just so there's people to play against, but so they'll continue to provide new characters/gameplay features.
Undead Fantasy
Member
Good. Next time finish your game at release Capcom.
I am just happy that a game full of objectification failed, specially in a series that have lots of great games that didn't needed this kind of appeal
That's very encouraging. I had fun with the Story Mode, but it's the kind of thing I'd only ever play once.
This is almost a tautology at this point. You could argue this about every game.