People were pissed with super sf4 because it rendered the old version useless and separated the online community for SFV they can just do it with a rerelease of the game with more modes new characters stages..etc and offer this stuff as dlc for the people who bought it early since system balancing is being done for free in SFV.
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Under 100k copies of Street Fighter V were shipped (incl dig) from April to September
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People were pissed with super sf4 because it rendered the old version useless and separated the online community for SFV they can just do it with a rerelease of the game with more modes new characters stages..etc and offer this stuff as dlc for the people who bought it early since system balancing is being done for free in SFV.
If that is what they take from it .. cest la vie.
More space for a new Darkstalkers, Pocket Fighter or Power Stone
randomengine
Banned
Games that would sell even less?
WTF, posts like this make me shake my head. It's fine to want a new darkstalkers or other game but not at the expense of something else.
wittengstein
Member
I don't understand why some people are semi celebrating game performing way below expectations,games performance suggests that Capcom will continue to partner with 1st parties for most of their future projects and if RE7 bombs they will be in a horrible position.
Other than the remasters and smaller scaler projects it seems like most of their titles will came with caveats like a year long exclusivity period,partnering with Nintendo to avoid spending money on MH's promotion and localization,perhaps even another SF5 like game.
Has any other publisher ever been in a position where they are semi-autonomous in video games history?It seems like their internal console projects will need to go thru desks at Sony,MS and Nintendo as much as their own to get greenlighted from now on.
Other than the remasters and smaller scaler projects it seems like most of their titles will came with caveats like a year long exclusivity period,partnering with Nintendo to avoid spending money on MH's promotion and localization,perhaps even another SF5 like game.
Has any other publisher ever been in a position where they are semi-autonomous in video games history?It seems like their internal console projects will need to go thru desks at Sony,MS and Nintendo as much as their own to get greenlighted from now on.
Gunstar Ikari
Unconfirmed Member
Not sure if serious...
Franchises with not even a quarter of the world wide recognition that SF has? Yeah, see how well that goes.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
The games that came well after SFIII? SFIII's main competition was stuff like Soulcalibur and Tekken 3.
Anyway, the point is... why wouldn't anyone want their favourite series to continue? SFV's sales as they are are bad news for the series going forth. It's more surprising to not be concerned about what they mean in a time where Capcom has become stingier and stingier with thier IPs. This isn't something that makes sense to go out and try to justify. The game failed to meet sales expectations and isn't even crawling toward them at this point. These sales are objectively bad news for the series. SF fans absolutely have the right to be worried.
randomengine
Banned
The reality is that developers can only work on one game at a time, so yes, any game created is at the expense of an infinite number of games that weren't.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
I think fighting games can survive targeting a narrow audience as long as they understand where to spend their budget and how to set up an ongoing revenue stream that doesn't piss off their fans. DOTA and the like are popular as shit, and they certainly aren't easy-to-learn, welcoming types of games. Fighting games can be the same, and if that means relying more heavily on the F2P model, then so be it. Games for dedicated niche audiences can exist and they don't need to tack on simplified bullshit to pander to people who are only half-interested in the first place.
Mostly, yeah. Though I don't think it's an issue of prioritizing the FGC so much as it was ignoring everyone else. In fact, I would argue that what they did focus on so much was the most important thing, but if that's all you're focusing on, that serious and competitive tourney scene, that's also the only audience you're going to get.
I think Capcom either severely underestimated the importance of a good launch or got too caught up in releasing it before Evo to think about the consequences. I kind of wonder if maybe they thought the success of IV would make V an easy win regardless of what content was available upon release.
mullet2000
Member
And that's fine, I've put a lot of time into it too. But the vast majority on customers want a more complete package for 60$.
Just look at what the vast majority of the competition gives you for 60$ and the difference is abundantly clear.
¡HarlequinPanic!
Member
wow, that's only four million less than Mortal Kombat!
Why do you think this ?
Darkstalkers is the FF7 remake of fighting games and both Pocket Fighter and Power Stone are simplified fighters with casual appeal and we all know how Smash sold MUCH better than Street Fighter. If Capcom can marketing them right and focus on the right groups, they can have solid profits with those
If it wasn't for the FGC these genres would be completely dead. The group sticks with the genre even past the fad phases, don't blame them for the game.
Most people don't even know what Darkstalkers is past morrigan. Pocket Fighter although being extremely cute is a very niche game even among the FGC. You seriously overestimate the popularity of these brands.
agentofatlas
Member
This doesn't really tell me anything. How are the dlc sales? How is street fighter doing compared to other execution heavy fighters like KOF and Guilty Gear? What's its current active pop vs sf4, any fighting game really?
randomengine
Banned
If Capcom merged with Nintendo, that sounds fine to me.
YianGaruga
Banned
Robot Pants
Member
Aside from all it's technical problems at release and zero content, it's also a snoozefest of a game
moltonasty
Member
¡HarlequinPanic!;221731795 said:
FINISH HIM
him is street fighter
Seems the internal heads who hadn't wanted this project to begin with and had no plans to fund it were ultimately right and it getting pushed out because of external funding was folly. Torpedoing the brand with such a poorly received product is going to cost them a lot in the long term.
Ironic that the one time Capcom seems to have correctly read the market, resulted in such a mess.
Yes but they are not going to create a darkstalkers or any of it if it's not feasible. His post was shitty.
It's weird. I totally think this game on a basic level is better than 4. Just systems wise, it's more how SF should be. But I am nowhere near drawn to it the way I was 4. I haven't played in months. For how pumped I was for this, and ready to move on from 4, I'm still astounded by that. I wanna get back into it...maybe the next round of characters gets me pumped again. If they get to make them.
Scrub Mcgrubb
Member
A lot of that content was put into the older games simply to add longevity because there was no online mode. Online is the ultimate world tour mode.... it's the ultimate arcade mode.
What Capcom has failed to realize is the average gamer doesn't want to really put in the effort to learn how to play. When faced with the harsh reality that they suck at the game... well you don't make friends with salad.
While this number isn't good, I wonder how the DLC plan for this game is going. If a lot of people are using FM or buying the season pass/premium costumes.
While many people here are strongly rooting for this game to fail, I believe it will have better legs once the next few updates roll in and season 2 starts.
Capcom made mistakes and they are working on how to fix them, but thank God they are not listening to you when doing said fixes. I have seen stupid complaints over many threads, but this one takes the cake as the worst one. Congratulations.
Also, the sexy costumes are there because some people buy it. No problem with that. Those costumes are also, what, half a dozen in a game that has probably already more than 30 different costumes with very different themes.
While many people here are strongly rooting for this game to fail, I believe it will have better legs once the next few updates roll in and season 2 starts.
Capcom made mistakes and they are working on how to fix them, but thank God they are not listening to you when doing said fixes. I have seen stupid complaints over many threads, but this one takes the cake as the worst one. Congratulations.
Also, the sexy costumes are there because some people buy it. No problem with that. Those costumes are also, what, half a dozen in a game that has probably already more than 30 different costumes with very different themes.
I am not saying they should make the same game. Makes the smash bros for non nintendo platforms. Pocket Fighter is basicaly Capcom vs Capcom. The popularity of that brand is the popularity of Capcom themselves.
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lmao that's cute
also, this Darkstalkers?
Yes, that also have Bulleta and Lei Lei, 2 non sexy characters for 1 sexy character that has no reason to be sexy (felicia)
QBee can work both ways
No it's not. People actually don't want Darkstalkers. At least not enough. Resurrection was a failure.
Hell, Rival Schools would do better than Darkstalkers.
What.
BronsonLee
Member
It needed the year.
Also, the work they did on Darkstalkers turned into SF5. That shit is definitely never happening
Also, the work they did on Darkstalkers turned into SF5. That shit is definitely never happening
SFV isn't trying to be SFIV though in terms of character selection. Since it's s new game it should have new and returning people have been asking for a long time. All the new characters such as Rashid, Laura and even Fang have been well received due to thier originality and I hope they make more.
DS was never big to begin with.
shadow_shogun
Member
Damn...chances of getting another sequel look pretty slim. What a shame.
Hey I just lost access to my pas4 version but I now have a dope pc. Put on heavy discount you can sell one more off my broke ass.
On the exact subject of the topic at hand, yo wow. I talk mess about SFV, while it ain't tekken to me my number 1, I do love street fighter. And I don't like to see it doing bad. There could be a lot of analysis into why its not doing so hot. I know some people are brushing of platy with the objectification assertion, but it would be interesting to look into what turned people off sf where.
On the exact subject of the topic at hand, yo wow. I talk mess about SFV, while it ain't tekken to me my number 1, I do love street fighter. And I don't like to see it doing bad. There could be a lot of analysis into why its not doing so hot. I know some people are brushing of platy with the objectification assertion, but it would be interesting to look into what turned people off sf where.
xxbrothawizxx63
Member
Don't worry everyone, the inevitable switch port will save Capcom's bottom line. Maybe...hooefully...
In all seriousness though, Capcom is likely readying a SFV port for the Switch's launch. SFIV managed to reach 1 million on the initially struggling 3DS so it isn't too hard to imagine the port would be successful at retail (though SFIV benefited from being the best/most feature complete launch title by quite some margin and kept that title for a while courtesy of the massive software drought).
In all seriousness though, Capcom is likely readying a SFV port for the Switch's launch. SFIV managed to reach 1 million on the initially struggling 3DS so it isn't too hard to imagine the port would be successful at retail (though SFIV benefited from being the best/most feature complete launch title by quite some margin and kept that title for a while courtesy of the massive software drought).
you have no clue wtf you are talking about.
Ono couldn't get Darkstalkers greenlit because the remasters bombed extra hard. Its not the FF7 of fighting games wtf is wrong with you?
Smash success is due largely to its cast of famous characters.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about lmao
If a Street Fighter fails how will these series succeed?
Also people, don't act like you'll buy a $60 darkstalkers today
GitarooMan
Member
Now this thread is really going places
This is pretty normal for a new entry. You invest a lot of time in the previous, new one comes out and you have to relearn it all over again. That's hard to commit to due to all the time required and the previous one still fresh in everyone's minds. Not to mention the new entry is usually way less fleshed out than the previous. It's one of the issues with the genre, and why the big gap between the release really helped SF4.