chicko1983
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Raging Spaniard said:Muller is definitely the best new player of the World Cup though, and if Germany advances to the final, World Cup MVP.
If Uruguay get there, Forlan would have to be close to MVP as well
Raging Spaniard said:Muller is definitely the best new player of the World Cup though, and if Germany advances to the final, World Cup MVP.
chicko1983 said:If Uruguay get there, Forlan would have to be close to MVP as well
Raging Spaniard said:Its like they dont even bother with pretense "why yes his leg is made of the divine spirit and he will fucking use it all day long, gracias"
Given that Uruguay is already in the top 4 regardless of the upcoming results, they are already heroes in the eyes, mind and heart of the people that care about them the most.SamuraiX- said:You do realize that Netherlands are going to embarrass them on Tuesday, right?
Lightning said::lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Blablurn said:
but that's what everyone said Brazil would do.SamuraiX- said:You do realize that Netherlands are going to embarrass them on Tuesday, right?
More like a backwards Clay Aiken.jett said:So uh CRonaldo pulled a Michael Jackson, huh.
Brazil faced a highly ranked and high quality opponent in the Netherlands though, the same cannot be said about Uruguay who are a pathetic team. Brazil were favored but it's not awe inspiring that they lost and they were never going to "embarrass" the Netherlands. Brazil are a good side but they are not that good...AFreak said:but that's what everyone said Brazil would do.
AFreak said:but that's what everyone said Brazil would do.
Lightning said:Brazil faced a highly ranked and high quality opponent in the Netherlands though, the same cannot be said about Uruguay who are a pathetic team. Brazil were favored but it's not awe inspiring that they lost and they were never going to "embarrass" the Netherlands. Brazil are a good side but they are not that good...
It's not an embarrasment to be beaten by the Netherlands. It would be an embarrasment if the Dutch were lose to Uruguay though due to the large gap in quality between the 2 sides.
rodvik said:Wut? really? I mean I like Uruguay much less after the Ghana game but I dont think they are a pathetic team at all.
Look at their matches so far, they have the talent and the mental strength to take the pressure of the WC. I will be rooting for the Netherlands (sorry Suarez made me a hater) but imho Uruguary has displayed every bit as much form in this wc. I think it will be a tight game.
AFreak said:but that's what everyone said Brazil would do.
jamesinclair said:People have underestimated Uruguay before.
As for germany, the turkish dude was shockingly absent this past match. He had been on fire the previous two. Wonder what happened?
Lightning said:The only thing good about Uruguay is the luck of the draw they got to even make it this far. They haven't faced any of the best sides, crappy performing France aside who they couldn't even beat I might add, and yet some how these guys have gathered themselves a following that believe these guys can topple the best teams in Europe? Yeah... no I've seen nothing from these guys to even remotely give me anything to worry about.
Uruguay fans should brace themselves for a loss and then another loss in the 3rd/4th play off game and thank your lucky stars that you even achieved that because your side didn't deserve it.
Noshino said:and they always underperform. It sucks because just like Argentina and Brazil, they have the talent (Suarez aside)
Raging Spaniard said:Theyre on the semifinals of the World Cup. I dont think you can call that underperforming this time around
But they got there. That's what counts, in the end.Noshino said:Sorry, but as much as I love the team (Suarez aside) they did slip through. You can't, with a straight face, claim that they dominated all of their matches.
Noshino said:Sorry, but as much as I love the team (Suarez aside) they did slip through. You can't, with a straight face, claim that they dominated all of their matches.
This. Also, the World Cup is about unity through the game. Why trash another nation just because you're either bitter that your side's out or worried your side could get totally underdog'd by someone?Dresden said:But they got there. That's what counts, in the end.
soultron said:Muller played a fantastic match, but Germany wouldn't have done nearly as well without
Bastian was literally eating defenders for breakfast as he threaded some of the most amazing set ups I've seen this WC.
Dresden said:But they got there. That's what counts, in the end.
Netherlands have won all of their games and knocked out Brazil.Noshino said:and... Netherlands does?...
Seriously, if you are going to bitch about the teams that Uruguay faced, you should first take a look at the ones the team you are supporting faced as well, which aside from Brazil, weren't much either.
And let's not talk about your top players, fucking Robben probably takes diving lessons twice a week.
Noshino said:and... Netherlands does?...
Seriously, if you are going to bitch about the teams that Uruguay faced, you should first take a look at the ones the team you are supporting faced as well, which aside from Brazil, weren't much either.
And let's not talk about your top players, fucking Robben probably takes diving lessons twice a week.
Hating is one thing, but no talent? Do you really believe your words?Noshino said:they have the talent (Suarez aside)
Lightning said:the same cannot be said about Uruguay who are a pathetic team.
Lightning said::lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Blablurn said:what the fuck? robben a diver? did you see the games where he played? it seems like every defender wants to injure him on purpose.
SalsaShark said:top 4/semi finals = pathetic team
Sounds about right. Sure.
Lightning said:All I said was that Uruguay don't deserve their semi final place as imo they cheated to get there. They didn't get through by skill, they didn't get through by showing talent, they got through because they cheated and their opposition couldn't hold their nerve to make them pay.
One of the most shameful acts in the world cup. I was disgusted by it and I don't even support the African teams.
One couldn't really say that the other teams in the semis dominated all their matches eitherNoshino said:Sorry, but as much as I love the team (Suarez aside) they did slip through. You can't, with a straight face, claim that they dominated all of their matches.
This.Raging Spaniard said:I'm not saying that at all, but they got to the semifinals of a fucking World Cup man, you cant take that away from them. They have OVERPERFORMED by any stretch of the imagination.
And also this.soultron said:This. Also, the World Cup is about unity through the game. Why trash another nation just because you're either bitter that your side's out or worried your side could get totally underdog'd by someone?
Talk about your own team, poorly if you will, but don't outright trash other teams. :]
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lolLightning said:Netherlands have won all of their games and knocked out Brazil.
Why attack Robben? The situations do not come close to comparing. All I said was that Uruguay don't deserve their semi final place as imo they cheated to get there. They didn't get through by skill, they didn't get through by showing talent, they got through because they cheated and their opposition couldn't hold their nerve to make them pay.
One of the most shameful acts in the world cup. I was disgusted by it and I don't even support the African teams.
But that aside, I just don't think they are capable of toppling the Netherlands. I just don't think their squad is strong enough, talented enough, to match it with Europe's best teams.
SalsaShark said:Youre so right guys, Uruguay has no talent. Because they cheated! it was handball! and of course ONE GAME gets you to the semi-finals, there must have been a handball as well in every other match they played!
RandomVince said:Goals denied by handball = same as goals denied/scored by bad offside calls.
RandomVince said:Goals denied by handball = same as goals denied/scored by bad offside calls. Once the ref makes the call, thats all there is to it. No point arguing. There will always be controversy. Sometimes its the right call, sometimes its the wrong call. Nothing you can do about it.
I personally like the resistance to technology in football. It keeps the game 'pure'. I would just like to see more 'right' calls made than bad calls.
eg bad call = the denied goal for england vs germany that crossed the line
eg good call = the penalty decisions in the 2nd half in spain vs paraguay
The call in uruguay v ghana was the right call. Not pretty way to end the game, but the right call. Its just more contentious than some decisions like goals scored from offside. Mistakes are part of the game. Cant stop it from happening.
Lightning said:They didn't get through by skill, they didn't get through by showing talent
SalsaShark said:Im not complaining about any bad call.
RandomVince said:I know, I was just replying to agree with what you are saying in a round-about way.
Case in point: you could probably show examples of at least 2 or 3 world cup winners/finalists who got there by technically dubious decisions. Italy in 2006 (round of 16) and germany in 2002 (usa denied goal in quarter final) and argentina via hand of god are all prime examples of controversy.
But only a fool would say that those teams weren't "good enough" to be there.
In the end, the four semi finalists this year have all earnt their place, despite a few controversies which are inevitable.
SalsaShark said:Oh, sorry i didnt get that. Completely agreed.
RandomVince said:No worries.
Another point: you could argue that even germany this year, the netherlands, brazil and argentina all had not proven anything until their knockout matches. No team had really been tested in the group stages, and eventually they all come up against other top sides.
Thats why the world cup is played out as it is.
Argentina, england, brazil and portugal all got shown up as pretenders to the crown by vastly or slightly superior teams.
You might say the uruguay or spain have not really been 'tested' yet, since they have played teams that are weaker 'on paper'. But they will be tested this week and on the day of the final if they get there and if they win that they will have to earn it as would any team.
Anyway its easy for me to say this since my team (australia) rarely does much damage in a world cup :lol
Blablurn said:what the fuck? robben a diver? did you see the games where he played? it seems like every defender wants to injure him on purpose.