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I've had my PS4 for almost three years, I'm game to buy a stronger one. Suck it poor people.
LOL! wow
I've had my PS4 for almost three years, I'm game to buy a stronger one. Suck it poor people.
no polaris, why do some even think this ?
Don't think anyone has claimed it is cheap? Point is the reports and yourself, IIRC, have said 4K gaming. This can't be the case if it is a die shrunk current APU. Even if clock speeds are raised it wouldn't be enough for me to be classed as an upgrade and definitely not enough for any sort of 4K gaming.
I'm a bit surprised at your confusion now considering your earlier posts.
You have to be kidding me.... I'm wrong because I'm using the correct definition of the word?
HandsomeCharles said:And in response to your HDD analogy, yes. That would fragment the userbase. It may not be the biggest issue in the world, but it has been something that has come into play with MMO and multiplayer games with persistent for a very long time. When moving through zones or areas with loading screens, those who can load faster are at an advantage over the others. Be it for loot / monster choice / positioning etc. It all comes into play.
I've had my PS4 for almost three years, I'm game to buy a stronger one. Suck it poor people.
no polaris, why do some even think this ?
A console don't need a gpu as powerfull as a "Titan" to reach his goal.
A console don't need a gpu as powerfull as a "Titan" to reach his goal.
A console don't need a gpu as powerfull as a "Titan" to reach his goal.
How many tflops does the ps4k have zoetis?????A console don't need a gpu as powerfull as a "Titan" to reach his goal.
It will if the goal is for AAAs to do 4K native and with a 30+ framerate.
I agree. There's no way this thing is going to run AAA games at native 4k for $499 in a console sized box.
Are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about the prospect of a console becoming an open platform for other manufacturers to build.So why would game devs be discussing it at GDC and Sony have hardware ready?
Edit: And according to Patrick Klepek, this hardware has a code name....
Well it might have not been worth it at the start of the generation bur right now I'm sure some chinese manufacturers could make a "ps4 compatible" device cheap enough to make it worth it.
Why does it even need to run 4k games? What percentage of consumers own a 4k TV now? Save that for PS5.
Why does it even need to run 4k games? What percentage of consumers own a 4k TV now? Save that for PS5.
Why does it even need to run 4k games? What percentage of consumers own a 4k TV now? Save that for PS5.
Why does it even need to run 4k games? What percentage of consumers own a 4k TV now? Save that for PS5.
This is how the industry collapses IMO. We've seen the signs already. Hope you guys love PC gaming because consoles are done for.
It's semantics. And fwiw we are both using a "correct" definition of the word "fragment". However I am the only one using the correct definition of the phrase "fragmented userbase" as applied in video gaming. The user base isn't being fragmented (read: broken apart). It's still one userbase.
And you still haven't countered anything I said in my first reply to you where I validate my stance.
A console don't need a gpu as powerfull as a "Titan" to reach his goal.
It will if the goal is for AAAs to do 4K native and with a 30+ framerate.
Edit: As seen with this chart
I agree, SEGA collapsed their hardware business by doing this, now Sony and Microsoft are heading over the same precipice.
It's semantics. And fwiw we are both using a "correct" definition of the word "fragment". However I am the only one using the correct definition of the phrase "fragmented userbase" as applied in video gaming. The user base isn't being fragmented (read: broken apart). It's still one userbase.
And you still haven't countered anything I said in my first reply to you where I validate my stance.
Are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about the prospect of a console becoming an open platform for other manufacturers to build.
So why should PC somehow survives although it exactly that what makes the consoles collapse?
Because a desktop PC is expandable, it isn't like a console where you'll piss off retailers with unsold inventory if graphics get upgraded.
Is that your main argument that it would "piss off retailers"?
Yo man, I know you're not at liberty to say much, but can you just spill the beans lol.
Like give us more info perhaps about the release window, price, specifics upgrades (e.g. is it in the GPU/APU). Please?
Wut?If you included one of those cards in a ps4 fps would be "+20" on every setup.
Well, that's what happened to SEGA.
Wut?
Wut?
Yeah, no. And there goes your credibility for me.If you included one of those cards in a ps4 fps would be "+20" on every setup.
If you included one of those cards in a ps4 fps would be "+20" on every setup.
No, not really.
Wut?
Wut?
Yeah, no. And there goes your credibility for me.
Benefits due to a closed box design exists, I won't deny that, but they don't result in 60% to 100% increase in output.Wait, just curious why? I thought it was well documented that consoles that have the same hardware as PC's can go further simply due to the closed and customised nature of the consoles, and how much good optimisation can go.
Also, why has his credibility suddenly gone? Are we really going to discredit all his previous information which has been pretty much verified at this point otherwise he would have been banned...? Like why so reactionary?
Tell us something we don't know.If you included one of those cards in a ps4 fps would be "+20" on every setup.
Hm.pc charts shouldn't be compared with consoles, FPS you get from a pc game doesn't mean you get the same result on a console.
What I read is that SEGA got retailers upset by making too many consoles too close together, leading them to have unsold inventory of the previous console. So when the Dreamcast came along, retailers didn't even want to deal with SEGA altogether, and didn't carry the product. What did you read?
I've had my PS4 for almost three years, I'm game to buy a stronger one. Suck it poor people.
So you're predicting something more on par with the 290x as opposed to the Titan?
Yeah, no. And there goes your credibility for me.
Benefits due to a closed box design exists, I won't deny that, but they don't result in 80% to 100% increase in output.
The benefits of a console design aren't that large.
Just because one was correct in the past doesn't mean that I need to swallow everything (S)he says as the truth.
pc charts shouldn't be compared with consoles, FPS you get from a pc game doesn't mean you get the same result on a console.
There's a lot to be said for hardware specific optimization, but it can't perform miracles.
PS4 needs a HUGE upgrade to run the same games at 4k. So something isn't right with this story.