Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
jett said:I didn't notice the music at all. I don't remember anything about it.
yeah i don't remember any music from the film itself, only from before it started.
jett said:I didn't notice the music at all. I don't remember anything about it.
I would have assumed they were anyway, from the preview it's certainly fairly clear they appear to be, however my point was (until someone said the script is online) that we didn't know for a fact they were. Like the kissing complaint, to make an assumption, then get angry at your own assumption seems illogical to me.Zenith said:Anyone who's watched a few movies could tell they're the good guys. Just look at the cliched "in touch with nature" crap. We know the hero joins their side. They're the underdogs. Even if they do a twist at the end that they were secretly evil all along, it's only a twist because everything before it has indicated they were good.
Just because sculli downloaded it 3 million times don't mean jack.stuburns said:So much for 'the no one knows what it is' bullshit. Good news.
thenight11 said:MUCH-ANTICIPATED FIRST-LOOK AT THE EPIC ADVENTURE FROM
TITANIC DIRECTOR JAMES CAMERON NETS OVER 4 MILLION STREAMS, SHATTERING PREVIOUS RECORD OF 1.7 MILLION
LOS ANGELES, (August 23, 2009) Twentieth Century Fox announced today that the AVATAR teaser trailer has become the most-viewed trailer ever on the popular iTunes Movies Trailer section of apple.com, which Thursday hosted the long-awaited public first look at writer-director James Camerons motion picture epic. The teaser registered over four million streams in its first day on the site, shattering the previous record of 1.7 million.
pretty crazy
thenight11 said:MUCH-ANTICIPATED FIRST-LOOK AT THE EPIC ADVENTURE FROM
TITANIC DIRECTOR JAMES CAMERON NETS OVER 4 MILLION STREAMS, SHATTERING PREVIOUS RECORD OF 1.7 MILLION
LOS ANGELES, (August 23, 2009) Twentieth Century Fox announced today that the AVATAR teaser trailer has become the most-viewed trailer ever on the popular iTunes Movies Trailer section of apple.com, which Thursday hosted the long-awaited public first look at writer-director James Camerons motion picture epic. The teaser registered over four million streams in its first day on the site, shattering the previous record of 1.7 million.
pretty crazy
The problem is that the response is intensively negative.Scullibundo said:Wow. Well there is some moderately good news. At least the geeks will be out in droves.
DieNgamers said:I see no fur! The Na'vi look cool!
However, Deviantart is always a weird place. Looks like it has already begun...
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs46/f/2009/233/9/0/Smurf_on_Na__vi_Action_by_drawerofdrawings.jpg
:lol
Oh, and don't be fooled...Even district 9 seems to have its fans over there:
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs47/f/2009/227/0/f/District_9_Non_Human_Female_by_Methados.png (nsfw!)
Jesse Perez
I have to admit, when I enthusiastically popped open Apple trailers to take a look at the first glimpses of James Camerons upcoming digital epic, Avatar, after seeing the clip, I was more than under-whelmed.
On a 19 inch computer screen, presented in an even smaller window, Avatar looks like the kind of intro that would open up a sci-fi fantasy computer game an eye candy mix between Fern Gully and Attack Of The Clones.
In fact, the computer-game look and feel was so convincing, I almost went to touch the arrow keys and mouse so I could get ready move the little blue warriors around the environment to hack and slash at the growling beasties.
It certainly didnt look like the kind of film that would have a $US237 million budget and certainly didnt look like work from the man who brought us the Terminator franchise, Aliens, and lets not forget the highest grossing film of all time, Titanic.
So, armed with my recently deflated interest in Camerons work, I entered Sydneys IMAX theatre to check out a series of preview clips from the upcoming film - and I wasnt expecting much.
We were introduced on-screen by Cameron himself, who urged us to pop on the 3D glasses and see him in full depth.
When those glasses went on, thats when it all made sense.
Even in the short introduction, Cameron was sitting in the room. The room was real. He was real. It was unsettling at first, but soon the eyes get used to this new way of seeing film, and the view becomes comfortable.
Then, as the sequence of clips played out, it was apparent that Cameron was indeed the genius we have all appreciated, and that again, the world would have to catch up to his vision.
This film is true 3D not the kind of 3D we have experienced in the past, which essentially consists of 2D presentation with a couple of 3D surprises thrown in for good measure. This is a different world all together.
Camerons Avatar extends our initial relationship with celluloid, and features environments which are vibrant and rich in depth, the characters have true placement in the 3D setting and there is a real sense of being inside the picture, not just passively observing.
The computer generated imagery - which in general is a contentious issue for many people - is charged with a fresh potency, and in 3D, takes on a naturalism that has been lacking in many CG films previously.
Its a bold statement, but I have no doubt the overall presentation of Avatar will completely revolutionize the way we see film.
Its clear where the $237 million went the techniques and technology used to create this astonishing digital world are beyond anything comparable. In fact, Cameron sat on the film for 14 years before the technology was advanced enough to begin work.
The only comparison that can be made is that Camerons new vision equals the impact revolutionary film techniques used in Jurrasic Park, Terminator 2 and The Matrix had on film-making.
Each of these films contained a great leap forward in terms of digital technology but Avatar is a far more potent beast.
From what I have seen, this film seems to be less about digital tricks, and more about completely redefining the medium - akin to the switch from silent to sound, or black and white to colour.
Those who were lucky enough to see glimpses of Avatar in the way it was meant to be seen, on the big screen in 3D, were still mystified as to what was actually happening in the film no plot details or explanations were given.
So despite this brilliant technical development in film, the true quality of the story, cast and direction remains to be seen although the brief glimpses of Sam Worthington and Sigourney Weaver's characters gave an indication that there were some solid performances in store.
However, the buzz on the web shows that there is faith in Camerons ability to develop good characters and story his Terminator and Aliens films have some of the finest plots and characters in sci-fi/action film history, and there is confidence he can deliver the goods again.
But clearly, at this stage in the game, its all an exercise to showcase the groundbreaking technology, and get the word out there that things are all about to change and it will all come from the hand of Cameron.
Every night in my dreams, I see you...I feel you.Scullibundo said:http://livenews.com.au/entertainment/avatar-why-james-cameron-will-change-filmagain/2009/8/24/217153
You guys didn't tell me the intro from Cameron was in 3D! Fuck I knew I should have gone! I could have been closer than ever! :lol
stuburns said:I actually thought his intro was the least effective 3D. It was the only point I took the glasses off for a second to see what it looked like without them on too.
When I saw it come on I had a flash that it'd be a Ubisoft style ten minute monologue, but thankfully not.
Scullibundo said:http://livenews.com.au/entertainment/avatar-why-james-cameron-will-change-filmagain/2009/8/24/217153
You guys didn't tell me the intro from Cameron was in 3D! Fuck I knew I should have gone! I could have been closer than ever! :lol
15 minutes of footage was screened in IMAX and digital 3D cinemas on Friday. Apparently seeing it on the big screen is really, really impressive.-PXG- said:I saw the trailer when I sent to see Inglourious Basterds (which was amazing) on Friday. Why is everyone all over this movie's nuts? I looks awful to me. Some care to explain?
Scullibundo said:You guys didn't tell me the intro from Cameron was in 3D! Fuck I knew I should have gone! I could have been closer than ever! :lol
They are right.Meus Renaissance said:Someone else said on another forum that watching the trailer gives you the feeling that it's the 'white man' oppressing the indigenous population
I think it's more analogous to Britain and the States invading a foreign country for oil.Meus Renaissance said:Someone else said on another forum that watching the trailer gives you the feeling that it's the 'white man' oppressing the indigenous population
-PXG- said:I saw the trailer when I sent to see Inglourious Basterds (which was amazing) on Friday. Why is everyone all over this movie's nuts? I looks awful to me. Some care to explain?
stuburns said:I think it's more analogous to Britain and the States invading a foreign country for oil.
The basic story isMeus Renaissance said:In what way? I think regardless of the actual story it's clear the most distinctive aspect of the movie is the appearance of the Na'vi. This is how the audience will separate the two
Scullibundo said:I just wanna see the marines get some Octarian poontang.
Count Dookkake said:Tsk, tsk.
Arcturian.
A little sensationalistic in the description of the Cameron intro. You didn't feel like you were in the room at all. It was literally 2 planes: the flat wall behind him, and Cameron. Wasn't mindblowing or anything.Scullibundo said:http://livenews.com.au/entertainment/avatar-why-james-cameron-will-change-filmagain/2009/8/24/217153
You guys didn't tell me the intro from Cameron was in 3D! Fuck I knew I should have gone! I could have been closer than ever! :lol
yeah, his description was totally over the top. and i thought my imperssions were exciteable :lolXMonkey said:A little sensationalistic in the description of the Cameron intro. You didn't feel like you were in the room at all. It was literally 2 planes: the flat wall behind him, and Cameron. Wasn't mindblowing or anything.
stuburns said:So much for the 'no one knows what it is' bullshit. Good news.
thenight11 said:MUCH-ANTICIPATED FIRST-LOOK AT THE EPIC ADVENTURE FROM
TITANIC DIRECTOR JAMES CAMERON NETS OVER 4 MILLION STREAMS, SHATTERING PREVIOUS RECORD OF 1.7 MILLION
LOS ANGELES, (August 23, 2009) Twentieth Century Fox announced today that the AVATAR teaser trailer has become the most-viewed trailer ever on the popular iTunes Movies Trailer section of apple.com, which Thursday hosted the long-awaited public first look at writer-director James Camerons motion picture epic. The teaser registered over four million streams in its first day on the site, shattering the previous record of 1.7 million.
pretty crazy
ItsInMyVeins said:I still think it's true, though. While there obviously are a lot of people (i.e. nerds) who know of it, the movie is far from known in general, I'd say. Although that's probably about to change during the next few months when the movie will generate more talk, if nothing else then because of the trailer and people now having something to talk about at least. But as it is now I can say that only a couple of my friends have heard about the movie but no one seem to know much at all about it--whether we're talking story, release date or anything, really.
And regarding the 3D I'm still not convinced. I haven't seen it yet so I can't say anything for sure of course, but I doubt it will make such a difference.
stuburns said:It got a full page in most the UK papers the day after 'avatar day'. I think the main problem with it is, seeing the trailer doesn't tell you what an Avatar is. You see a Titanic trailer, it's clear, it's a boat, you're not going to forget and you instantly have something to talk about. You see the Terminator trailer, you have something to point to. You see the Avatar trailer and the only thing that you could really discuss unless you looked into it is the blue people. Without even really knowing what they are. The trailer shows a man waking up as one, for all a viewer knows, all the blue things are humans just like Jake.
The preview ended with a cut of the next trailer, assuming it's not the whole thing, because it was too short, I think it'll grab more attention.
As for the 3D, I hadn't seen 3D anything before, beyond shitty red/green crap, and I was completely blown away. I think if people come to think of that technology as hand in hand with Avatar, regardless of who did it first, or who ultimately does it best, Avatar could be incredibly huge. I really see it as a Jurassic Park type thing, where people will take their kids to see this new landmark movie. Regardless of if that actual film is good or not. The problem is, encouraging people to see it in 3D. Had I not been to the preview, I'd have been going to see it in 2D without a doubt. CG dinosaurs can be shown on TV, 3D can't.
My mate Dan said he thinks he'd have to see it three times just to watch the story, not the visuals. He was exaggerating of course, but there is something to that I think. But I don't see it as a downside as such. It's kind of like saying a band's music is so incredible you can't seem to pay attention to the lyrics.ItsInMyVeins said:About the 3D-thing, I'm sure it does look good but I worry that it's gonna be distracting as well, taking Eberts opinions into account.
ItsInMyVeins said:Yeah, like I said, the movie will certainly get more attention the coming months simply because there's a trailer out now -- something to talk/write about. And the movie seems kinda polarizing to an extent as well, with some loving it and others disliking the character design. I do appreciate the epic scale of it and the look of that planet, but like others I think the Na'vi look distractingly much like silly computer generated characters. But who knows, the movie might be awesome in it's entirety.
About the 3D-thing, I'm sure it does look good but I worry that it's gonna be distracting as well, taking Eberts opinions into account.
west said:It is kind of distracting. But not as I tought it would be. It does not feel "like being there", but it definately does not feel like watching a movie either. Its like your brain has seen so much 2d CG that it just instantly pops out, but 3d sort of cheates your brain into thinking the screen has infinite detail. You can clearly tell its not real, but it does not look CG either.
The scenes in the preview where actually quite cliche and i doubt it would have had any effect on me in 2d. In 3d I just got a real rush out of it. 3d compared to the teaser is like taking a picture of something cool and knowing the picture can't do it justice.
I say you should most definately see this in 3d.
MisterAnderson said:Just out of curiosity, is the Avatar preview the first time you've seen 3D footage of any kind?
DieNgamers said:Didn't the teaser (at least partially) feature music from another movie? However, considering who's responsible for the score it should be good.
Karma Kramer said:We are still 4 fucking months from release... you guys freaking out over marketing make me laugh.
Dabanton said:I know i find it amusing. If Fox started the full marketing campaign now we'd have them complaining saying that Fox is going to burn out everyone on a film four months away.
They can't win with these guys i don't know what it is about Avatar that has gotten them so wound up. The most hilarious thing is after all the bitching and moaning from these guys they'll still be there opening day to see the film. :lol
FooFighter said:I just have a feeling the internet geek massive will absolutely eat this film up, but when it comes to the mainstream audiences (who would make up most of the total gross) will laugh at it. Especially the blue-elf-cats.
I'm still not entirely sure whether I'll see it in theatres. But the art direction may pull me in eventually. It's certainly an intriguing movie.
Bitching and moaning about how Fox is marketing it means it'd be funny if we go to the movie? How does thinking Fox is fucking up how they handle the movie have anything to do with wanting to see the movie or not?Dabanton said:They can't win with these guys i don't know what it is about Avatar that has gotten them so wound up. The most hilarious thing is after all the bitching and moaning from these guys they'll still be there opening day to see the film. :lol
I really don't think you can put 3D near the same level as any of those other innovations. It will never be like that. Jazz Singer changed EVERYTHING. 3D will only change big blockbusters which is just a small sliver of films. Indie movies, drama movies, rom-com movies..etc won't waste money to film in 3D lol.Scullibundo said:I wrote a paper for film two years ago about Cameron's Avatar as a representation of the forthcoming '3D New Wave', whilst everybody else was writing solely about The Jazz Singer and the Sound of Music etc. .