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Helldivers 2 Account Linking Reversal
- Thread starter Boss Man
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Radical_3d
Member
And Japan Studio was closed.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
You OK Timdog?
Good. Can't believe there were corpo bootlickers defending Sony to the end.
If it wasn't for the PC community, the game wouldn't even be in the top 20 most played games on PSN.
If it wasn't for the PC community, the game wouldn't even be in the top 20 most played games on PSN.
Um, what? yes it would have. I knew that people would struggle with Matt Piscattela's bullshit PC tweets but not to this degree.
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BaneIsPain
Member
again. projection, I'm not interested in degenerates activity. Stop thinking everyone is the same
I'm interested in original design intent
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
This is what can happen you you firmly tell companies that you don't like the shit sandwich they just served you.
anothertech
Member
Let's see what Xbox does about sea of thieves now ..
Is there a big enough outcry?
Regardless the issue was never about putting the psn account linking, was for putting the account linking AFTER the game was avialable for 6 months.
We get it, you're in love with Sony. You haven't stopped defending them since this whole thing happened.
I don't think you've gone 1 page without posting a comment trying to defend them.
MayauMiao
Member
What was Helldiver 2 like issue with Sea of Thieves?
hemo memo
Gold Member
The fandom in this industry are so cult mentality deep, you have no idea.
KaiserBecks
Member
So much for „hurrdurr PC gamers make Drama over nothing“. Respect to Sony for reacting more reasonable than their fans.
It's not even 3 months yet. No there isn't a big enough outcry. If there wasn't one for Minecraft shutting people out of their game requiring an account there definitely wasn't for SoT. The reason is the difference in motivation behind it, nothing else.
It's insane. Worst part is they do it for free whilst Sony sit back and laugh at them.
BIG difference between a Microsoft Account and a PSN Account.
One provides you access to multiple services which includes Xbox whilst one is strictly for PSN...
The majority of people who have a PC will have a Microsoft Account. Even my parents have a Microsoft Account and they don't game.
Lorianus
Member
As soon as the x amount of countrys cant play message was spread it was an inevetible outcome at that point, that conversation was waiting right then and there to be weaponized as a racism/xenophobia allegation, considering that like 90% of africa and asia is on that list.
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March Climber
Member
Nintendo looking at this news as they continue to sue, DMCA, and raze the internet of all assets, mods, emulators, roms, and fan works:
You're posing some incorrect stuff on the forum and me correcting it is "defending Sony"? I mean it's clear you've misunderstood Matts comment:
Matts comment:
Yours
These are not the same things and I correct you on it but to save face you're just crying 'yeah well you're just a silly fanboy'. Be an adult, it's OK, people make mistakes.
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Cyberpunkd
Member
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Inevitable.
Nice to see these greedy fuckers cave.
Nice to see these greedy fuckers cave.
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DeltaPolarBear
Member
Walled garden vs open system.
PC gamers always have options. Microsoft might have locked up the Enterprise side of things but they have not locked up the gaming side. PC gamers are clients, you serve your clients and keep them happy or they will walk.
If Gabe died one day and his replacement made Steam shit, the customers will walk away too. Open means open, it means no walls. it means customers are not locked in.
Console gamers are not normal gamers, Console gamers made the decision to stay in one camp and expect to lose everything if that camp sinks. They could always go to PC, but they decided not to because there is comfort in having someone else managing your hardware. And that is fine. But you lose not just rights, but the knowledge that you still had some rights you could have fought for.
PC gamers always have options. Microsoft might have locked up the Enterprise side of things but they have not locked up the gaming side. PC gamers are clients, you serve your clients and keep them happy or they will walk.
If Gabe died one day and his replacement made Steam shit, the customers will walk away too. Open means open, it means no walls. it means customers are not locked in.
Console gamers are not normal gamers, Console gamers made the decision to stay in one camp and expect to lose everything if that camp sinks. They could always go to PC, but they decided not to because there is comfort in having someone else managing your hardware. And that is fine. But you lose not just rights, but the knowledge that you still had some rights you could have fought for.
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Pedro Motta
Member
Thats the beauty of it, you have been bending over for other companies for decades, and now all this fake outrage lol. In the end (like in the beginning) it doesn't really matter, it's an account creation just like hundreds of others you have been registering to play games.
Pejo
Gold Member
Yea I've only been interested in this drama from a consumer rights angle, but this guy absolutely seems genuine and like he really cares about his game. If there's a net positive here, his open communication was refreshing.
lifa-cobex
Member
Personally I think Rockstar is going to be a different monster from what we've had previous.
Now that both Houser's have departed, how they have gone balls deep with shark cards in GTA5 and the complete abandonment of RD2 online.
I don't think it's going to be the same company of old and I'm fearful of what they might have in store.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Probably in the fucking toilet
Sony have learned that most people aren’t quite as cucked to them as they thought.
If they want to succeed in the PC space, they’re going to have to let go of their greed fuelled death grip.
Little Chicken
Member
The damage has been done.
LazyParrot
Member
Gonna enjoy watching the console warriors who were cheering for Sony to "stick it to the mustard race" somehow twist this entire fiasco into proof of how reasonable and benevolent their corporate overlords are.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
If another company decides months after a game's launch that they just HAVE to make you sign into their shitty, over-priced eco-system, then I'm sure the reaction will be the same. And rightly so.
Also... not all of us mindlessly sign up to video game launchers and accounts, which seems to be the weird thing lots of people think is true around here.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
We are not evil and corporations are
We r farmers dun dun dun dun dun dun dun
We r farmers dun dun dun dun dun dun dun
DeltaPolarBear
Member
The main issue was that they took money from many dozens of nations, and then was about to block access to them with this change. Sony's major problem is that their PSN accessible nations list is far smaller than even Nintendo's.I wish people had this kind of energy about all the different game launchers on PC (that also require accounts).
Rockstar and Ubisoft right now.
People are okay with not being able to buy something. But if you took their money and then retroactively try to take the product back after, people would get mad.
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chromatic9
Member
Good to see the players win.
Sony didn't have the infrastructure worldwide and can't be arsed to implement it. It was a hyped game that was open then suddenly some had to jump through hoops with VPN and risk getting banned to carry on playing. It should be open to play, Sony should've played the long game and left it optional.
Sony didn't have the infrastructure worldwide and can't be arsed to implement it. It was a hyped game that was open then suddenly some had to jump through hoops with VPN and risk getting banned to carry on playing. It should be open to play, Sony should've played the long game and left it optional.
Mr Moose
Member
Sony Bend?
FunkMiller
Gold Member
I don't think that was the main issue. I think it became the main issue when it started to look like Sony was going to have to back down... but it all started with PC players being pissed off they had to sign up to a PSN account to play a PC game they'd been playing quite happily for months.
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lifa-cobex
Member
Morbius is an amazing film.
But I never got chance to see it the in cinema
Sony please re-release it
But I never got chance to see it the in cinema
Sony please re-release it
Kerotan
Member
Steam players from Day 1 have done nothing but bitch about playstation and their pc ports. There's no trust there to begin with.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
Steam had to delist the game from multiple countries in advance to protect themselves from lawsuits. Sony just didn't understand the ramifications.
Shifty1897
Member
I don't understand why PlayStation only gamers would care about this being struck down. Seems to me like it's a good thing.
Shame about those Steam reviews though. Most people are not gonna go back and change them.
Shame about those Steam reviews though. Most people are not gonna go back and change them.
Mr Moose
Member
Hopefully it's a lesson for everyone involved including the players.
Players need to read the Steam page more carefully.
Devs need to fix their shit faster, if players have issues with part of it, don't disable it for 4 months and then bring it back. Have better communication.
Sony need to make sure their web pages are up to date and make sure the account link isn't spitting out errors. Have an official way for users in countries PSN doesn't exist to make an account.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
It's the #5 most played game on US PSN and you're asking them to remove it from the platform already.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Gojiira
Banned
Wrong, cant beg for trophy support now, and annoyingly just means more datamining,more cheating,and less options for reporting/banning players. PC Players who refuse to play with PS5 players should be banned outright tbh, its not exactly in the spirit of the game to immediately kick players just because of elitism rather than a genuine reason.
Either way this victory just ensures less PC ports, less integration. Good job
Should have been pressuring a rollout of PSN to those countries that lack it but typical PCMR….
hemo memo
Gold Member
Next time it will be very clear from the beginning that linking the account is required, so people will buy the game fully aware of what they are getting into.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
They did. But that was something that only came up after the whole stupid drama had got going.