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2017 Microsoft E3 Conference [Over]
- Thread starter Relix
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Most of the games will be on PS4 - their odd phrasing clearly means "timed".
Anyway I give up. It's obvious to me (and clearly many others) why this was a weak showing competitively. You queried such responses and I figured I'd try and extrapolate but you can't see it so this will be my last reply.
CervantesPR1
Neo Member
both of those games look crazy good but they are not exclusive
Humdinger
Member
LiS isn't exclusive. I don't think Metro is either. What's PUBG?
Here's what I wrote down as I watched:
Console Launch Exclusives:
Player something (Underground?)
Deep Rock
Darwin
Black Desert
Last Night
The Artful something
Tacoma
Ashen
Console Exclusive:
Sea of Thieves
Super Lucky's Tale
Cuphead
Ori
Crackdown 3
Forza
That's well short of 22, so I must've missed some. They showed an indie montage that went by pretty quickly. Maybe there were some in there.
LiS and Metro are coming to the PS4 at the same time.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
I think that the main problem rating this conference is depending on how you see it.
The conference as a whole was good, if it wasn't a Microsoft conference it would be good some good games shown but dragged too long.Any publisher would be cool showing those games
But rating it as a Microsoft conference It Was Bad... like really bad.
You can't start a conference announcing 22 exclusives and basically showing timed exclusives over timed exclusives.Especially when you introduce a new hardware that is supposed to crush competition.
Besides Forza and to be fair a racing game would not really show the difference between the xbox x and the pro, the only games interesting were all multiplatforms and maybe they showcased the Xbox X well, but maybe we should wait to compare it to their ps4 pro counter part.
So a good conference if it were a mere publisher but as a Microsoft conf I don't want to buy a scorpio or a Xbox no exclusives interested me and almost everything shown was multiplatform.
People want new games Microsoft, and exclusives are a good way to gather interest in your console.
The conference as a whole was good, if it wasn't a Microsoft conference it would be good some good games shown but dragged too long.Any publisher would be cool showing those games
But rating it as a Microsoft conference It Was Bad... like really bad.
You can't start a conference announcing 22 exclusives and basically showing timed exclusives over timed exclusives.Especially when you introduce a new hardware that is supposed to crush competition.
Besides Forza and to be fair a racing game would not really show the difference between the xbox x and the pro, the only games interesting were all multiplatforms and maybe they showcased the Xbox X well, but maybe we should wait to compare it to their ps4 pro counter part.
So a good conference if it were a mere publisher but as a Microsoft conf I don't want to buy a scorpio or a Xbox no exclusives interested me and almost everything shown was multiplatform.
People want new games Microsoft, and exclusives are a good way to gather interest in your console.
Obliterator
Member
I thought this was a pretty solid conference. It seemed a bit over filled to some degree and no real surprises which takes away from it but it was overall nice. I'd give it a solid 8.
My only main takeway here though is I didn't see much to convince someone who isn't already interested in Xbox to make the jump. That said Anthem looked unbelievable
My only main takeway here though is I didn't see much to convince someone who isn't already interested in Xbox to make the jump. That said Anthem looked unbelievable
DangerMouse
Member
This is what I thought Phil was hinting at with that Japan trip.
HellforLeather
Member
Anthem was pretty cool even though it looks like Focus Testing: The Game.
"What do people like?"
"Mech suits, co op shooters, loot"
"Ok go make that"
"What do people like?"
"Mech suits, co op shooters, loot"
"Ok go make that"
slappingoysters
Member
Monty Mole
Member
For all the shit MS gets for too much Halo and Gears... if there's one thing this conference needed, it's new Halo and Gears.
It would be the equivalent of Nintendo revealing Switch without a Zelda or Mario game to speak of.
It would be the equivalent of Nintendo revealing Switch without a Zelda or Mario game to speak of.
The conference didn't need to be 90 fricking minutes long, especially with some of the games/gameplay they chose to showcase.
It's like, I get why people want to say the conference wasn't that bad since they spent minimal time doing PR/sales talk or blabbing on and on about non-game related stuff and spent a good chunk of the conferences showing games, but the way they showed everything off was pretty underwhelming to pretty bad. It wasn't even just that the games were all poor, because they all weren't poor, it was also the games they chose to focus on, or what about those games they chose to focus on.
I may pick up a couple games on PC and I think people that already own an Xbox One will be modestly satisfied to at least not convince them to sell their console, but I think as a conference trying to sell a new piece of hardware and the future of the Xbox brand, it was a failure.
It's like, I get why people want to say the conference wasn't that bad since they spent minimal time doing PR/sales talk or blabbing on and on about non-game related stuff and spent a good chunk of the conferences showing games, but the way they showed everything off was pretty underwhelming to pretty bad. It wasn't even just that the games were all poor, because they all weren't poor, it was also the games they chose to focus on, or what about those games they chose to focus on.
I may pick up a couple games on PC and I think people that already own an Xbox One will be modestly satisfied to at least not convince them to sell their console, but I think as a conference trying to sell a new piece of hardware and the future of the Xbox brand, it was a failure.
Damn, thats a pretty short list for console exclusives
slappingoysters
Member
It looked a lot like that small demo they showed of the new Star Wars game last year. Super similar.
I see some of the points, don't get me wrong and I don't mean to come off as difficult, but I don't agree entirely with some of the points. We'll have to agree to disagree it seems.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Same as you but I did jump in back in late 2013. I need a drink.
NullPointer
Member
So... should I take it that this monster isn't capable of running current 30fps Xbox One games at 60fps?
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
Not that stuff like God of War or TLOU2 isn't important, but the audience is more fickle today. They make the biggest splash at an E3 conference, but it just seems like there's something different going on these days. Minecraft, Rocket League, PUBG... I think if MS can continue to kind of align with multiplayer games that people are currently into, that's more in line with the audience than a blockbuster like Halo or Uncharted. They're kind of filling gaps around that as best they can, and they're not completely striking out there.
FaintColt388301
Member
It's sad that they listen to us but then it feels quiet without them.
How is Forza the only big MS game shown? A Halo teaser however small would have been great.
I would have given their conference a B- or C+ but they intentionally muddled the waters with the "Xbox Console Launch Exclusive" stuff. A lot of the games shown will be playable on other platforms that they tried to pass exclusivity off on.
I think it was better than their past 2 conferences however.
Showing off the new Porsche as a world-wide reveal was actually cool, but really only for people who are big fans of cars and high-end ones at that. I feel like it fell flat overall though. It seems as though MS really doesn't understand their audience even though they pretend to.
I think it was better than their past 2 conferences however.
Showing off the new Porsche as a world-wide reveal was actually cool, but really only for people who are big fans of cars and high-end ones at that. I feel like it fell flat overall though. It seems as though MS really doesn't understand their audience even though they pretend to.
Major Nelson himself is indicative of everything wrong with Xbox right now. He's a Microsoft lifer in the echo chamber that is the Xbox division. They're dedicated to serving their ever decreasing hardcore fan base, without any real perspective on what steps they need to take to expand beyond that and actually take it to Sony.
I think the difference is providing games for Xbox owners to play vs convincing people they need an Xbox.
When a conference sells you on buying the competitor's console, it's failed horribly
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Wait you forgot State of decay 2 as an exclusive.
Did they say what Console Launch Exclusives means?
PSlayer
Member
Phil Spencer always sound as a damage control guy to me. Always saying what people wanted to hear but without necessarily putting the money where his mouth was.
"Hey Phill what can you say about the lack of japanese support!"
Phill Spencer: "Xbox one should have more japanese suport!"
"Oh my god!!! did you hear? xbox will have japanese support!!! Phil Spencer is saving the XBOX"
"What about japanese exclusives?"
Phill Spencer: "Xbox one should have more japanese exclusives!"
"Oh my god!!! did you hear? xbox will have japanese exclusives!!! Phil Spencer is a GOOODDDDDD"
I think you'll see more 30 to 60 cases than on the Pro but generally I wouldn't expect it. The difference will be native vs checkerboard.
Beer Monkey
Member
I won't consider $499 high if there's no black crush on the BD playback in all formats including 4K HDR. I need a 4K HDR BD player.
Of course, that may be a big if.
Of course, that may be a big if.
Triggerhappytel
Member
He's been awful. I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt as I thought they might have some good stuff to show this E3, but their first-party line up is fucking anaemic; especially when considering they have a new console to promote. What's the most recent MS new IP - Sea of Thieves, I think? Even that's been at 3 E3 conferences now still with no release date in sight.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
PUBG is Playerunknown's battlegrounds
Ah I got confused cause Phil said the 22 games were going to be exclusive and then showed Metro right after so I thought that was one of them.
Pretty cool that they locked Super Lucky's Tale as a full exclusive.
It's not economically feasible if the XBO X is the only VR-ready model.
Pro
S4 ratio = 1:5PSVR
S4 ratio = 1:60I expect a worse XBO X:XBO tie ratio due to the $499 tag.
I would expect a worse XBO X VR:XBO X ratio due to every XBO X owner's wallets being recently drained.
half a moon
Banned
You don't focus on games like that on a 6teraflop system
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
I always thought Sea of Thieves was a console exclusive, but I could have sworn after the trailer and gameplay demo it said console launch exclusive.
Problem Microsoft has is every good looking exclusive is coming to PC. If you want to sell the console have console exclusives. Bummed, thought Microsoft would have done well, but it seems they still need time. Glad to see they are following Sony though, not a lot of talking and letting the games speak for themselves.6/10
Arkam
Member
How dare you talk about French Stewart like that!
It has been boring for a while. Say what you will about Sony promising the moon with titles that are far off. At least you point to that and say "fuck yeah I can't wait for that." What do you look at with Microsoft first party and think "oh yeah that's a game of the year contender." All of that is missing. There's no energy, no excitement.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Lol
The only way Sony wouldn't top this Microsoft presser is if they didn't show up at all.
Call Of Duty: WWII MP reveal/new SP trailer/possible Zombies reveal, Gran Turismo Sport, Spiderman, GOW, Shenmue 3, FFVII Remake and if they show The Last Of Us II, it will bring down the house.
Ash Sparrow
Banned
Erm wasn't there susposed to be some free download for watching on Mixer?
7.5/10. Underwhelming, but solid.
As a Xbox One owner, the games look good. Felt like most of it was stuff that was already known. OG Xbox BC is awesome. Unless there's some awesome trade in deals, I'll wait on XB1X.
As a PS4/PC owner, I'll put that $250-$499 towards updating my PC and/or games. Nothing to see here.
As a Xbox One owner, the games look good. Felt like most of it was stuff that was already known. OG Xbox BC is awesome. Unless there's some awesome trade in deals, I'll wait on XB1X.
As a PS4/PC owner, I'll put that $250-$499 towards updating my PC and/or games. Nothing to see here.
GHG
Member
The guy is weak. He doesn't have the clout or charisma necessary to get the backing and funding the Xbox division is clearly in dire need of. Meanwhile he just spits out PR coated lies on Twitter on a regular basis.
Shenmue 3 won't be at the show sadly =( if it was, they'd win easily on that alone.
DangerMouse
Member
I know, I was too, I was so confused at that lead in being for Metro after 2 full remasters selling it on multiplatform basis.
Always thought that game looked very nice.
It was a good conference, aside from selling me a x1x. Sadly, in a new console release e3, that's a deal breaker. Aside from metro and anthem, two games I'm not sold on aside from the visuals, there was no reason to upgrade.
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