AceBandage
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Jaded Alyx said:
Likely because buttonns break easier.
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New Nintendo 3DS Hardware Info (Conference At 10 PST/1 EST Today)
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Likely because buttonns break easier.
charlequin
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MrBelmontvedere said:
DS software sales remain exceedingly high and produce approximately one metric fuckton of money for Nintendo every quarter, so the idea that piracy has "killed" the profitability of the DS is total bullshit.
orioto said:
The ideal of convergence that people in the tech business like to push is that instead of a bunch of unique devices that do individual things great, you can get one device that does all those things shittily. There are lots of people who for whatever reason seem to love this idea, but the reality of convergence is that it only actually works when a convergence product is 100% as good for every purpose the target audience uses the standalone device for. In order to predict convergence, you have to look at how people use their devices and what functionality they'd lose by moving to an all-in-one.
The issue with smartphones replacing dedicated gaming systems is that .99c casual games and $5 serious-but-compact titles (collectively still what butters the bread of phone game sales) don't replace what the majority of the portable gaming market buy systems for, and $800 smartphones themselves don't fill many of the market niches for portable gaming systems either (especially kids.) If anything, people should be talking about how the iPod Touch will kill portable gaming, but the economics of that business aren't all lined up yet (only Apple is really offering a product like this and even they have to cut a lot of corners to price it where they want it.)
Ultimately we've all seen how PC gaming worked out: economically viable and worthwhile of consideration for all gaming enthusiasts, but in no way whatsoever a replacement for dedicated gaming consoles. I very much expect phones and handhelds to have a similar relationship for a long time to come, and if/when they do merge together it'll be a result of phones changing to move closer to handhelds.
szaromir said:
Oh my fucking God. :lol
plagiarize said:
Nah, just move to New England -- all of the sarcasm, but with much better food!
AceBandage
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charlequin said:
Not a fan of boiled meat?
charlequin
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AceBandage said:Not a fan of boiled meat?
Putting aside anything I may or may not have against English cuisine itself, I have a friend over there who has never had a burrito.
AceBandage
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ILikeFeet said:
Never been to Mexico....
Anyway, getting back on topic, no one really commented on just the dev kits only having 64MB of RAM, while the system will have more for the OS.
It does seem a bit of a stretch, but you never know.
We can already assume that they are holding off 512MB from the flash memory for stuff.
beelzebozo
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i still really like the 7 layer burrito from taco bell. i have much nostalgia for that thing. it used to be the carrot my mom used to get me to actually attend my karate lessons. after class, we'd drive straight from the dojo to taco bell and i would completely destroy the burrito before we could reach the house.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Quoted for form and substance. Well put, charlequin.charlequin said:
Apropos, I wonder how many of the 'my phone's specs murder the handheld consoles' crowd in this thread know that the 1st and 2nd gen iphone/ipod touch had a GPU capable of vertex shaders, which functionality Apple never exposed to developers, despite the latter clearly needing that tech for better games?
Sickboy007
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So, how would you feel about a packed-in Avatar?
AceBandage
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Boney said:
Hey, we're still doing some good discussion about the device itself, even with us being this far along.
That's a very good sign.
Sickboy007 said:
Neutral. I already have it on BluRay (hey, I enjoyed it for what it was).
I'm more looking forward to renting How To Train Your Dragon. I think that'll be neat to watch on the 3DS.
ShockingAlberto
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Sickboy007 said:
I guess I would watch it once, stick it somewhere in a corner, and never stop wondering if I paid extra for it.
Well, in Europe the DS software sales took a nosedive, though, and piracy is an important reason for it. Some aquaintances of mine, who own game shops, are literally whining every time I'm talking with them that the only reason people visit their shops anymore is to ask whether or not they are selling "those SD cards".charlequin said:
The DS and DS software are still profitable, that goes without saying, but piracy is definitely a huge problem.
charlequin said:
Hmm, let's talk real here. Gamers seems to live in some fantasy world where there exigences in term of game are the same as the mass market...
That's why i was speaking about gamers who will still prefer a real handled, and kids who prefer something that's more like a toy for them. But, but but, don't ever forget that the NDS and Wii generation have this particular specificity that they opened the market to casuals. And believe me, the soccer mom who bought wii fit, wii sport, the dads who bought brainstorm, the girls who bought nintendogs etc... The ones that made the NDS and Wii an "abnormal" success for a Nintendo console in recent years... Those ones, they can find everything they need on on iphone.
And i know the gamer intelligentsia has no problem to decide angry birds or those things, or facebook games, are shit and not "real" videogames, but you may be surprised by the future of this industry. I'm pretty certain that even some gamers played a lot more of this game than they did with any console games in the last months. And they actually enjoyed it a lot, but hey, i guess it wasn't "gaming" or worthy of being called gaming. Nintendo would have been pretty happy with a device and this game by their own department, believe me, they wouldn't be ashamed of it, at all.
People should just face it. Things are changing, and if the iphone doesn't allow lots of genre, due to the ergonomic, that's doesn't mean he doesn't represent a giant mainstream gaming platform for a whole demographic, growing up more fastly than anything.
Now, the NDS is a market phenomenon, and the 3DS will probably sell A LOT, just based on the momentum, but that's not meaning anything on the long term. Everything was fine for Nintendo in 94, except for the fact that their view were wayyy too far from what the market would inevitably become 1 year later (playstation, older gamers, focus on sport, cool, jamiroquai, espn, simulations.. what made the playstation cool). Sometime, everything seems to go fine, but the worlds is already collapsing under your foot.
Avatar would make the 3DS more popular. "See Avatar like you seen it in theaters. But WITHOUT glasses"
but if you want something more kid-friendly (a PG movie instead of a PG13 one) then How To Train Your Dragon would do good. I would say Tangled or that Owl movie but they want those in theaters first. unless they work out a deal and make it exclusive to the 3DS until they come out on DVD and Blu Ray
but if you want something more kid-friendly (a PG movie instead of a PG13 one) then How To Train Your Dragon would do good. I would say Tangled or that Owl movie but they want those in theaters first. unless they work out a deal and make it exclusive to the 3DS until they come out on DVD and Blu Ray
Gamecube has shown that platform based on solely Nintendo software has limited appeal. Granted Nintendo got a lot smarter since that era with their software design, but still their device has to offer some features beyond what competition is already offering at the time.BishopLamont said:
Really insightful.charlequin said:
GBA was definitely the market leader though, with tons of 3rd party support. I don't know what the future will be like, I only suggested that it might be a better option for Nintendo to become software-only company, not that they will or that's an immediate future.apana said:
I would questioned Nintendo behavior.Sickboy007 said:
You want to bundle demo/game that explain why your game system is so awesome instead of movie that could be only a collateral business for Nintendo.
Nintendo is what it is because it it the only game company with integrated hardware/software divisions.szaromir said:
Being a software-only company would mean the end for Nintendo.
ShinNL
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I know one huge market that can be captured. Yu-Gi-Oh real life TCG with codes, using 3DS like Eye of Judgement to see 3 fucking D projections. That shit will be unstoppable if they did that and when executed properly.
For me I would like to see Nintendogs have an augmented reality bonus card or something, so I can let my miniature cat hop around my desk if I feel like it.
Actually, I think most augmented reality ideas can be huge hits due to the 3D camera + 3D screen combination. That combo is insane, since it will really make it seem like you're looking through a dimensional window.
Also cool: if every game comes with a card with a code and if you look at it with your 3DS you get Smash Bros-like trophies.
For me I would like to see Nintendogs have an augmented reality bonus card or something, so I can let my miniature cat hop around my desk if I feel like it.
Actually, I think most augmented reality ideas can be huge hits due to the 3D camera + 3D screen combination. That combo is insane, since it will really make it seem like you're looking through a dimensional window.
Also cool: if every game comes with a card with a code and if you look at it with your 3DS you get Smash Bros-like trophies.
plagiarize
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i *live* in New England and the above is not accurate. people rag on the british for having 'bland' food, but here in New England i have to buy my spices and hot sauces off the internet.charlequin said:
here in New England you cannot buy Doritos most popular limited edition flavour whenever they bring it out, because people in New England say things like 'I don't like lite Ranch because it's too spicy' or 'this new Dominos pizza sauce is a bit too spicy for my liking'.
traditional English food is terrible. that's why hardly anyone in England eats it any more and instead we have all these awesome alternatives.
i think i went off topic a bit.
And the DS and Wii have shown that plattforms based solely on Nintendo software can have an enormous appeal. (Yes, I know, there are many great and great-selling 3rd party games especially on the DS, but it's due to Nintendo's software that DS and Wii become to the blockbuster-consoles they are)szaromir said:
What this shows, though, is that Nintendo needs new software that appeals to the "zeitgeist" and becomes the next big thing. New iterations of Nintendogs, Brain Training and Mario etc won't be enough in order to continue the enormous success of the DS - because as Orioto already stated: casuals can be satisfied with cell phone games and Facebook games. Nintendo has to win their attention with something new and simply offering the old stuff "now in 3D!" could very well be too less to win their hearts.
AceBandage
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wrowa said:
What they really need is a social networking game that can appeal to the Facebook Framville crowd.
Animal Crossing could have been that, but I don't think they'll use it as such.
Maybe a new Mii based game, though.
overthehill99
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I would buy Toy Story 3 to watch on my 3DS. This is probably the only movie I would buy.
orioto said:
Really you're all over the place I dont know where to start. Nintendo has always acknowledged that they compete with a lot of other entertainment platforms and that it's their job to get the expanded audience actively interested in gaming. Or is this just another variation of Nintendo is perpetually doomed mantra that keeps getting louder the more succesful they become.
BishopLamont
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You can't be seriously comparing the software output and quality for the GC generation and this generation. You know why it was limited in appeal? Look at the software released for it. They're about to come out with the the friggin 3DS, of all three console manufacturers, you're worried Nintendo is going to be the one to be complacent in the hardware innovation department, when its the key to setting their software apart from other consoles?szaromir said:
Even though we're only 1 generation apart from the "old" Nintendo, its virtually a different company in terms of how they operate now.
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