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geestack · Mar 20, 2013

Just bought and downloaded this, it's almost like they straight up ripped the PS3 version off the disc and got it running on Vita. I know the PS3 version wasn't a technical marvel, but what they've pulled off here, it looks about 1:1 graphically, with character models exactly the same and anti-aliasing intact. Framerate is pretty variable, as it doesn't ever really maintain the steady 60fps of the PS3 version with slowdown happening almost everywhere, but visually and mechanically it's exactly like the PS3 version. Unfortunately, that means things like text on the screen and menus are a little small, as it doesn't seem like they really scaled the UI that well for the smaller screen.

Character shadows are also non-existent in battles, likely for performance issues. I only fought the first tutorial battle, and it was fine; then again, these games aren't about combat, so I'm not too bothered about it. Here are some screens:

cheststrongwell · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
Yes, the screenshot on the OP shows it. It's just not highlighted.

Cool, thanks!

zroid · Mar 20, 2013

Wait, this is PSN exclusive? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOURNS

Also, why'd it have to be Totori. That's the only Arland game I already own.

Rarutos · Mar 20, 2013

cheststrongwell said:
Cool, thanks!

Fair warning, the dub is a partial one if you care about that. Every scene in the JP track is voiced, while in the dub it's a bit scattered to important scenes and whatnot.

Zeer0id said:
Wait, this is PSN exclusive? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOURNS

Also, why'd it have to be Totori. That's the only Arland game I already own.

Probably because Rorona Plus doesn't exist and Meruru Plus is just coming out tomorrow in Japan! Or is it today now?

cyborg009 · Mar 20, 2013

This was uploaded a few hours ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVYQBl1oXxI

cheststrongwell · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
Fair warning, the dub is a partial one if you care about that. Every scene in the JP track is voiced, while in the dub it's a bit scattered to important scenes and whatnot.

That sucks, but those high pitched Japanese voices drive me crazy.

zroid · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
Probably because Rorona Plus doesn't exist and Meruru Plus is just coming out tomorrow in Japan! Or is it today now?

I wish Rorona Plus did exist. I'm glad about Meruru, but if it also comes here digital only that will pretty much mean no buy.

Rarutos · Mar 20, 2013

cheststrongwell said:
That sucks, but those high pitched Japanese voices drive me crazy.

Haha, then the dub should be fine for you!

Zeer0id said:
I wish Rorona Plus did exist. I'm glad about Meruru, but if it also comes here digital only that will pretty much mean no buy.

I wish it did too, since I think it needed it more than the other two, but I suppose that just means it'd be more work than them.

Robert at Zeboyd Games · Mar 20, 2013

How are the load times?

RurouniZel · Mar 20, 2013

Yeah, Rorona + didn't happen because compared to Totori and Meruru it would need to be completely redone and these are (for the most part) quick and presumably cheap ports. Not that I mind, but that's just how it is. ^^;

cuilan · Mar 20, 2013

Robert at Zeboyd Games said:
How are the load times?

I can't speak for the US digital version, but in the JP retail version the load times aren't very long. The longest one I've experienced so far is about 7 seconds, but most are shorter.

Paskil · Mar 20, 2013

I am a poor judge of frame and this is actually my first Atalier game. I just felt the need for a new RPG, and supporting Vita. I watch some anime, a few of which have included heavy fan service and besides the costume, I haven't seen a lot yet. Not really sure if that's a huge thing in this series. I can take it or leave it. Fair warning, the protag and her sister sound GD adorable (if you've heard JPN dialogue, this should be self-explanatory and may be a deciding factor if you get this). Here, have some screenies.

Rarutos · Mar 20, 2013

Paskil said:
I am a poor judge of frame and this is actually my first Atalier game. I just felt the need for a new RPG, and supporting Vita. I watch some anime, a few of which have included heavy fan service and besides the costume, I haven't seen a lot yet. Not really sure if that's a huge thing in this series.

In my opinion, a lot of people really overblow that there is fanservice in the Arland games in general. Most of the game is actually pretty tame overall aside from maybe one or two events and some remarks.

Paskil · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
In my opinion, a lot of people really overblow that there is fanservice in the Arland games in general. Most of the game is actually pretty tame overall aside from maybe one or two events and some remarks.

I only played it up through the first alchemy synthesis and they are really pushing the vulnerable, clueless, younger sister trope. I don't have a problem with that. Since it isn't really a hardcore JRPG (except maybe in the gathering/crafting sense?), they have to hook people somehow. I think I will like this game, I just have to finish two other games on PS3 first.

Rarutos · Mar 20, 2013

Paskil said:
I only played it up through the first alchemy synthesis and they are really pushing the vulnerable, clueless, younger sister trope. I don't have a problem with that. Since it isn't really a hardcore JRPG (except maybe in the gathering/crafting sense?), they have to hook people somehow. I think I will like this game, I just have to finish two other games on PS3 first.

Haha, I think they do that with Totori because it's obvious by the end of the game how much she's grown as a character, which I found really nice.

RurouniZel · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
In my opinion, a lot of people really overblow that there is fanservice in the Arland games in general. Most of the game is actually pretty tame overall aside from maybe one or two events and some remarks.

It's really is peculiar how this is the series people seem to have latched onto Atelier to go "hey look fanservice" when there's only a couple in each game usually. Esp. since (maybe I just don't see it often enough) Neptunia is much more wall-to-wall fanservice than Atelier ever was and doesn't seem to get anywhere near as much thrown at it. :/

BomberMouse · Mar 20, 2013

RurouniZel said:
It's really is peculiar how this is the series people seem to have latched onto Atelier to go "hey look fanservice" when there's only a couple in each game usually. Esp. since (maybe I just don't see it often enough) Neptunia is much more wall-to-wall fanservice than Atelier ever was and doesn't seem to get anywhere near as much thrown at it. :/

It's the artstyle. I think it's a nice style to have feminine protagonists and, in my opinion, it's not really sexualized like most RPG females.

Sora_N · Mar 20, 2013

At least it's digital, I may buy later but I haven't started my ps3 one yet. I wish I had a vita though.

HawthorneKitty · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
Fair warning, the dub is a partial one if you care about that. Every scene in the JP track is voiced, while in the dub it's a bit scattered to important scenes and whatnot.

You just killed the game for me; that's the exact reason I was irked by Nuptunia Mk2.

RurouniZel · Mar 20, 2013

BomberMouse said:
It's the artstyle. I think it's a nice style to have feminine protagonists and, in my opinion, it's not really sexualized like most RPG females.

I guess I'll just never see whatever it is that everyone else sees that makes them recoil is horror. Cute is cute, and I like cute.

OmegaZero · Mar 20, 2013

Whatever, just bought this.
I'm going in without any prior experience with the series, so is there anything I should know as a newbie?

Sora_N · Mar 20, 2013

HawthorneKitty said:
You just killed the game for me; that's the exact reason I was irked by Nuptunia Mk2.

I didn't know Mk2 did that, damn. :/

Rarutos · Mar 20, 2013

OmegaZero said:
Whatever, just bought this.
I'm going in without any prior experience with the series, so is there anything I should know as a newbie?

Fight everything to keep up in levels, make bombs for Totori so you can have an easier time early on. (Use Unis at first if you can't yet) Don't stress the time limit too much or you'll just have a lot less fun, and just enjoy the ride.

For later: Make Traveler's Shoes and Harvesting Gloves as soon as you can to cut travel and gathering time.

I forgot (and love) how Guid is basically Kellam.

faridmon · Mar 20, 2013

I didn't know this was getting a release. I didn't know this was getting a localisation. Heck, I didn't know this existed.

I am losing out. My gaming badge should be taken away

Stark · Mar 20, 2013

RurouniZel said:
I guess I'll just never see whatever it is that everyone else sees that makes them recoil is horror. Cute is cute, and I like cute.

Yeah. Surprising since I think Mel's style is quite beautiful and fits well.

Rarutos · Mar 20, 2013

faridmon said:
I didn't know this was getting a release. I didn't know this was getting a localisation. Heck, I didn't know this existed.

Nobody knew before it came out on PSN this afternoon. Though this has existed in Japan for a few months now.

Stark · Mar 20, 2013

HawthorneKitty said:
You just killed the game for me; that's the exact reason I was irked by Nuptunia Mk2.

Its going to stay that way, I bet.

ochaworldorder · Mar 20, 2013

Just installed now, intro animation is so nice on OLED! Anyone know why the store link on the live area for this seems to go to a psn code input prompt?

OmegaZero · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
Fight everything to keep up in levels, make bombs for Totori so you can have an easier time early on. (Use Unis at first if you can't yet) Don't stress the time limit too much or you'll just have a lot less fun, and just enjoy the ride.

For later: Make Traveler's Shoes and Harvesting Gloves as soon as you can to cut travel and gathering time.

I forgot (and love) how Guid is basically Kellam.

Sweet, I'll keep that in mind.
I'll post my impressions sometime later this week.

(Got this, DoA5+ and the PSASBR patch to juggle).

Hattori · Mar 20, 2013

so there's no plan to release a physical copy in the near future whatsoever?

OceanBlue · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
For later: Make Traveler's Shoes and Harvesting Gloves as soon as you can to cut travel and gathering time.

Don't forget the Warp Gate! It's so useful. Once you get the Azure Wing, use it on the Warp Gate and make sure you don't mess it up, lol.

namDa65 · Mar 20, 2013

Gah, wish i didn't own this on ps3.

Chance Hale · Mar 20, 2013

Would love to buy this as I've always meant to get into the series and the surprise release almost adds an element of pity for the company. However, given my limited amount of space on my 8GB card I'll have to delete a good amount of games. My plus ran out so I can't put my vita saves online. Am I totally buggered with no way of moving my digital game saves?

Rarutos · Mar 20, 2013

ricochetguro said:
Would love to buy this as I've always meant to get into the series and the surprise release almost adds an element of pity for the company. However, given my limited amount of space on my 8GB card I'll have to delete a good amount of games. My plus ran out so I can't put my vita saves online. Am I totally buggered with no way of moving my digital game saves?

You could always store them on your PS3 I think? If you have one, that is.

Also, this is a bit silly but going through the beginning of this game again makes me miss Rorona. It feels like it's been a looong time since I've met her in-game. (No, Meruru doesn't count!) At least I'll get to see her later!

Kincaido · Mar 20, 2013

Grown up Rorona > Lolina

ochaworldorder · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
I forgot (and love) how Guid is basically Kellam.

I was just checking for Guid at the docks and finally realized why the "no presence" gag in FE felt so familiar. Even the joke itself is hard to remember I guess!

vall03 · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
You could always store them on your PS3 I think? If you have one, that is.

You can also backup Vita games through the PC too.

Stark · Mar 20, 2013

Kincaido said:
Grown up Rorona > Lolina

Naw, son. Naw.

EDIT: Though I did get that feeling when I first played Totori. They did that well.

Chance Hale · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
You could always store them on your PS3 I think? If you have one, that is.

vall03 said:
You can also backup Vita games through the PC too.

Moving them to the PS3 now, just really silly you have to transfer the whole game. Really frustrating they lock direct save transfers for vita games to plus

Kincaido · Mar 20, 2013

Stark said:
Naw, son. Naw.

EDIT: Though I did get that feeling when I first played Totori. They did that well.

We disagree on something for once =P

Stark · Mar 20, 2013

Kincaido said:
We disagree on something for once =P

You like Chihaya, iirc, so somehow it ends up in agreement. Worry not.

Rarutos · Mar 20, 2013

Stark said:
Naw, son. Naw.

I was going to tell you to get out of my OT, but that would have been rude.

Stark · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
I was going to tell you to get out of my OT, but that would have been rude.

you hate her that much!?

Rarutos · Mar 20, 2013

Stark said:
you hate her that much!?

Nah, I liked her! I just didn't like how she was handled. I would have been a lot happier with her presence if she had retained her memories, at least. (Or eventually got them back in-game)

OmegaZero · Mar 20, 2013

OceanBlue said:
Don't forget the Warp Gate! It's so useful. Once you get the Azure Wing, use it on the Warp Gate and make sure you don't mess it up, lol.

Alright, I'll try to remember that too.

Cheska · Mar 20, 2013

This is tempting since I tend to get further in RPG's when they're on handhelds and I may get past the spot I was stuck at on the PS3, but damn at that $40 price tag.

Stark · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
Nah, I liked her! I just didn't like how she was handled. I would have been a lot happier with her presence if she had retained her memories, at least. (Or eventually got them back in-game)

Ah yeah! Definitely agree there.

Going to be hard to take in the lack of Rorona in Ayesha whenever I get to it.

;_;7

Rarutos · Mar 20, 2013

Stark said:
Going to be hard to take in the lack of Rorona in Ayesha whenever I get to it.

;_;7

I don't think you need to worry about that too much since it's a whole new universe. Also, that's not much of a spoiler.

Stark · Mar 20, 2013

Rarutos said:
I don't think you need to worry about that too much since it's a whole new universe. Also, that's not much of a spoiler.

Nah I just did that randomly.

Yep, that's why it kinda sucks.

It's why I'm happy yet sad with sequels. Nice that it expands, but hard to let go when it ends.

Kincaido · Mar 20, 2013

Yeah, the thing that bothered me the most was how she was handled.

Stark said:
You like Chihaya, iirc, so somehow it ends up in agreement. Worry not.

Yes, I <3 her.

She's my true sad life waifu.

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