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Digital Foundry: Thief for Xbox One edges out the PS4 version
- Thread starter chadskin
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PC elitists just like to wave their dick around every time they get the chance. In the end the joke is on them since they miss out on so many good games that will never come to PC.
I love PC gaming and play most third party games on PC but I'm not going to be a fucking idiot and delude myself into thinking I'm getting the best experience possible by ONLY having a good PC. I'll be dammed if I miss out on stuff like Uncharted and The Last of Us. A lot of PC gamers need to grow the fuck up. That also goes for the console-only people who have no technical knowledge and think you need to spend 2 Gs for PC gaming to be worth it.
Phire Phox
Banned
My blood pressure is getting too high with all the salt in this thread....
Night Angel
Member
One would think you would be used to it by now, judging by the typical levels of sodium found in almost all of your own posts.
Chobel
Member
travisbickle
Member
And then the xbox wins.
Well, the article is by Thomas Morgan.
He has made a fair few major mistakes in DF articles before (the kind that makes you doubt if he has much tech knowledge at all).
Taken ingame on PS4, The textures are a blur outside a 3, 4 meter radius.
That shot was taken down the street from where you access "the bank heist mission" on the west side of the map. If someone with an X1 has time, post a pic of the same shot ?.. it would be interesting to see a comparison thats not from youtube footage for a change.
That shot was taken down the street from where you access "the bank heist mission" on the west side of the map. If someone with an X1 has time, post a pic of the same shot ?.. it would be interesting to see a comparison thats not from youtube footage for a change.
boredandlazy
Member
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
So in 2 out of 3 areas, the PS4 is superior to the Xbone, yet the Xbone version is overall better than the PS4 one?
I mean, I'm not even a fanboy, but that just makes me mad.
I mean, I'm not even a fanboy, but that just makes me mad.
3rdamention
Member
He basically bashed the PS4 version because of the framerate, with quotes like "it drops to single digits" and is a "slide show." He completely missed it on those claims, especially when stating the Xbox One has a much better framerate.
jim-jam bongs
Member
Eh I really don't know why there's such a big thread on this, by all accounts the game isn't much of a looker on a technical level and both ports are apparently pretty shit.
This gif makes more sense than this thread.
This gif makes more sense than this thread.
bryanee
Member
Just seen the hanging and the textures were present and accounted for on the PS4.
Has any conclusion been reached from this thread? Haven't had time to go all the way through.
Is the df conclusion wrong?
Is there a reason for the bluring, pop in or whatever is up with this game?
Theres no way a game on weaker hardware should look better as all the previous ps4 'victories' have shown. Whats the deal?
Is the df conclusion wrong?
Is there a reason for the bluring, pop in or whatever is up with this game?
Theres no way a game on weaker hardware should look better as all the previous ps4 'victories' have shown. Whats the deal?
At the very start of the scene? It only lasts a second or so.
Melchiah
Member
Well, they've pretty consistent with their articles in that regard, eventhough their metrics have changed during the generational transition, and like this thread shows I'm not the only who has noticed it.
I'm saying the DI article supports what I said, when the PS3's higher resolution was a "small lead", compared to 360's "significantly" higher resolution in the Red Dead Redemption article. And now 1080p isn't significantly higher than 900p, let alone 720p.
Then there were the pre-launch talks about balance, and counting memory bandwidth numbers together. What else is there to take from all of that, but to wonder why a tech site changes their viewpoint depending on which platform has the upper hand?
It's not about platform preference, it's about objective comparisons, no matter who's on the top. I'd rather read tech articles, that are based on facts instead of opinions.
I guess it depends on who you ask.
Basically, Digital Foundry / Eurogamer commenters are claiming payola. And this thread is claiming incompetence.
I've also seen a few folks say apparently this will be the end of Digital Foundry, and that their credibility has been destroyed.
Who really knows.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
The deal is DF are lying. It's as simple as that at this point. I'm not digging back through the thread so here's just two points of note:
Pop in on X1 too but appears worse:
They say the X1 has POM but it clearly doesn't:
Now add in better resolution and better framerates. Which version is the clear winner here?
Why would DF lie? This kinda stuff is crazy.The deal is DF are lying. It's as simple as that at this point. I'm not digging back through the thread so here's just two points of note:
Pop in on X1 too but appears worse:
They say the X1 has POM but it clearly doesn't:
Now add in better resolution and better framerates.
bryanee
Member
Yup, was there from the start.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
It might seem crazy but no one makes a mistake this big.
Yeah I just can't buy that payola stuff or malfeasance from DF. Feel free to believe in the conspiracy stuff tho.
I thought Xbo had crusher black than ps4. From those screen shots the Xbo should look like the left picture because of the black levels.The deal is DF are lying. It's as simple as that at this point. I'm not digging back through the thread so here's just two points of note:
Pop in on X1 too but appears worse:
They say the X1 has POM but it clearly doesn't:
Now add in better resolution and better framerates. Which version is the clear winner here?
I can't either. Definitely makes for good reading though. I love a good conspiracy theory.
Let it go guys. There is nothing to be gained, not with this game.
I agree.
I agree with this too.
I agree.
I agree with this too.
The deal is DF are lying. It's as simple as that at this point. I'm not digging back through the thread so here's just two points of note:
Pop in on X1 too but appears worse:
They say the X1 has POM but it clearly doesn't:
Now add in better resolution and better framerates. Which version is the clear winner here?
Those ground textures are totally different, one of them looks like a relief map with shadows and the other looks like a flat texture.
I think of course you can lay down guide lines, for example many PS3 games were triple buffered when their 360 counterparts weren't, this is a pretty simple edge in visuals for a ding in responsiveness, I think that's something you can form an institutional voice over, but when it's something like this, you can't just put the priority over performance if the difference is so small that the visual impact is greater.
I do think they should not bother giving an opinion unless it is essentially undeniable, like the recent Strider.
Different people, different opinions, and different views on how much a disparity impacts the end results. That's my take on it. *shrugs*
thelastword
Banned
At this point, I don't even trust DF to give a complete and technical analysis, either through incompetence on their part or that they glance over technical details and choose to focus on subjective talk in tech analyses.
Anyone saying it's a different person doing the analysis is missing the point entirely. A tech analysis has nothing to do with what you think, it's all about what it is. For comparisons like these, there should be certain standards and ground rules and they should not change based on what the tech analyst prefers as bias can and will no doubt creep in.
To me a tech analysis that tries to make insignificant 633,600 more pixels and a 4-5 frame advantage in their reasoning is a joke, more so, doing so whilst talking up a single graphical feature on the worse performing platform, goodness gracious.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
There is an outside chance that they genuinely don't think resolution matters, genuinely don't think framerate matters, genuinely thought the X1 version had POM too, genuinely overlooked the pop in on the X1 version and genuinely didn't think to preinstall it on the PS4 version fully before playing (many people who have it fully installed don't have the texture pop in problem) All of those things are possibly accidental of course.
I just see it as a lie but many others wouldn't.
Well the DF comparison shows otherwise, and it's unlikely the game would still be installing by then. So sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn't.
The deal is DF are lying. It's as simple as that at this point. I'm not digging back through the thread so here's just two points of note:
Pop in on X1 too but appears worse:
They say the X1 has POM but it clearly doesn't:
Now add in better resolution and better framerates. Which version is the clear winner here?
They said nothing about POM. Both versions do have it though X1 misses it sometimes.
Well no, the worse thing would be providing numbers without context for people to bicker over. Because those extra pixels and frames aren't very relevant in this situation.
The deal is DF are lying. It's as simple as that at this point. I'm not digging back through the thread so here's just two points of note:
Pop in on X1 too but appears worse:
Now add in better resolution and better framerates. Which version is the clear winner here?
WTF...That is just straight up lying.
Did you get this from their source videos?
Oh well, inferior game is inferior anyway.
Hanlon's razor.
boredandlazy
Member
When you actually find one(other than the Strider glitch?) let us know.
intheinbetween
Member
god saves this thread
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
It doesn't.
Chobel
Member
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
If only more people knew about it.
EventHorizon
Member
I know. I'd be like a game on the Wii U looking better than a game on the Xbox One.
Melchiah
Member
That's why I wish the console comparisons were more like the PC hardware comparisons, where the facts usually prevail over opinions, where sophistry is left at the door, and higher values are always better.
I couldn't agree more.
CadetMahoney
Member
1st post nails it.