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AC UNITY patch worsens NPC pop-in. Ubisoft actually puts in new spawning animation.
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jim2point0
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SO.... does it actually improve performance?
Did you watch the webm?
KojiKnight
Member
Anyone expecting anything else was kidding themselves. What did anyone expect they could do to improve performance? It was lower quality of effects, lower quality of models, or lower quality/quantity/etc of NPCs. There was no hidden "make this game run at a better frame rate" button they forgot to press. The game pushed the system, so literally this is what they could do or nothing.
jim2point0
Banned
1 webm is hardly comprehensive evidence one way or the other.
I haven't been reading many threads since the patch. I figured people had a general idea by now whether or not it's helping.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Read the other thread with the title that isn't misleading. Or my and other users' impressions on how the pop in isn't as bad as the one in the OP.
We need more webms.
Well, not a single button. There might have been a long series of buttons they should have pressed at various points in the game's development to make sure the framerate never got this bad, but at this point the damage has been done and the necessary changes are probably buried deeper than a post-launch performance patch is likely to address. So yeah, the only remaining option is to make relatively quick and dirty cutbacks like this.
The pop-in is the same as pre-patch, IMO. I won't give them too much shit on that, though. While they improved the framerate noticeably, which proves how rushed the game was, I don't expect them to fix all performance-related issues in one month magically, or fix them at all. I have no problem believing that they are pushing the hardware to its limit, and hiding the resulting issues in a clever way likely would take longer than a month.
At least the game is in a playable state now. Hope they can improve the tech for the next AC.
At least the game is in a playable state now. Hope they can improve the tech for the next AC.
KojiKnight
Member
This was what I was getting at. They committed to this path way early on.
BeatResetsTheWorld
Banned
Dat sliding dude who just put on socks at random
Ummmm reading this thread I have the impression that many people are jumping the gun on something they haven't tried first hand.
NPC pop-in was in the game since the beginning and it was already distracting.
OP claims it's worse after the patch as a fact and with a single opinion as a source but that is highly debatable. It seems the same to me honestly.
And the new animus-like spawning animation.....it's really hard to replicate the effect, most of the pop-in happens in the distance, getting NPCs appearing out of no where so close to the player is NOT the norm in the game, usually you get better clothes or detail when you get close and there's no animus animation.
So yeah the game had and still has a pop-in problem, but claiming as a fact that it got worse after the patch is premature and should require further investigation....you know what happened when people claimed downgrades after patch 3 already....
I'm definetly looking forward to see more comments from people who have actually tried the patch which imo does a good job at fixing the frame rate problems and that was the main problem with the game, so I'm happy with it although I finished it long ago at this point. Now the game is fully playable and that's the most important thing.
NPC pop-in was in the game since the beginning and it was already distracting.
OP claims it's worse after the patch as a fact and with a single opinion as a source but that is highly debatable. It seems the same to me honestly.
And the new animus-like spawning animation.....it's really hard to replicate the effect, most of the pop-in happens in the distance, getting NPCs appearing out of no where so close to the player is NOT the norm in the game, usually you get better clothes or detail when you get close and there's no animus animation.
So yeah the game had and still has a pop-in problem, but claiming as a fact that it got worse after the patch is premature and should require further investigation....you know what happened when people claimed downgrades after patch 3 already....
I'm definetly looking forward to see more comments from people who have actually tried the patch which imo does a good job at fixing the frame rate problems and that was the main problem with the game, so I'm happy with it although I finished it long ago at this point. Now the game is fully playable and that's the most important thing.
GavinUK86
Member
That is amazing lol.
I have the patch and the frame rate is better at times but it still tanks in places it really shouldn't. The awful low quality audio is more of a deal breaker for me.
this is unacceptable in today's market. what are we telling new generations of gamers? that our games come broken yet you pay full price? its sad but these publishers/devs are going to create a crash to my hobby.
on one hand i feel bad for the devs, they are putting so much time so that we can enjoy wasting time. they lose time with their families and friends, they slave themselves for our enjoyment, they work day and night....and then we get this. its sad to me because i know its not easy for them. plus add in neogaf and other forums berating them and fuck that's soul crushing, it must be hard to even continue to do anything. i hope for the best.
on one hand i feel bad for the devs, they are putting so much time so that we can enjoy wasting time. they lose time with their families and friends, they slave themselves for our enjoyment, they work day and night....and then we get this. its sad to me because i know its not easy for them. plus add in neogaf and other forums berating them and fuck that's soul crushing, it must be hard to even continue to do anything. i hope for the best.
Evil Monkey DTT
Banned
You know, I remember a day where games would have been recalled until it was fixed. The problem is simple, day 1 patches. Don't release a broken title and hope for the best, make sure of that shit going in. But then again it's not like this game hasn't been the subject matter of controversy sense it's actual announcement..... right.....
It's still not solid 30 fps as far as I can tell.
But it feels like it went from 20-25fps to 25-30fps which has a significant impact for playability.
ugh_the_boot
Banned
HahHAH ! OMG! Fuckn Ubi u retards! LOL! Assassins Trek!
This is pretty fresh!
This is pretty fresh!
Im waiting for the next comedy season, next year.
The Division, a new anus creed and who knows what more
And it's just the beginning, people keep buying dem alpha builds so the money still flows, marketing strategy still works and Yves Shitmot is happy, aand they hope that people will actually forget this, which is kind of true, sadly..
From my experience it really does seem worse, then again the pop-in was the main fix i was hoping for, so i was paying more attention to it. One things for sure, the pop-in is every where and happens consistently.
Bar all the issues, i haven't enjoyed an AC game this much since AC2. But the pop-in is distracting.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Really? Shitmot? Anus Creed? Yea and AC 2-R were definitely alpha builds, and so was 4.
This is the only AC to be a huge complete disaster on a technical level.
AC3 is a turd on story and pacing wise.
AC4 initially have parity on it but had a 1080p patch for the ps4 after release.
PC port is a different story tho.
Yves Guillemots Secret Gaf Account, cool
Freezasaurus
Member
This is amazing. Hopefully this will teach them to stop rushing out Assassin's Creed games every holiday season.
What is this? Patch #4 they're working on now? Jesus!
What is this? Patch #4 they're working on now? Jesus!
Patch 4 is the one that came out this morning. Game still needs more patching though.
Lloyd Christmas
Banned
That dude on the conveyor belt cracked me up.
shacklesmcgee
Member
TheVampire
Banned
Do they even test this shit first before releasing?
Freezasaurus
Member
oh man. One month. Four patches, and they can't fix the issues. They're in straight-up panic mode now.
I think their testing phase consists only of crossing their fingers at this point. Anything they slap together can't make it much worse.
I think he means the pre-release gif that showed a tree popping up in front of a car. Supposedly from the 360 version, wound up being indicative of PS3 instead I believe.
Windom Earle
Member
"correcting people"... lmao
Yes I remember that gif. Final game did not have that much of a pop-in problem though.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I assure you that that notion couldn't be more true.
Consider that the person I replied to hasn't replied at all to being corrected about the "FC4 anti-piracy wasn't well-received" or the person who brought it up in the first place. Heck even the OP seemingly left after people started questioning whether or not this was legitimate widespread issue or just an isolated case.
Rigorous quality control is of paramount importance to us, and your feedback over these past weeks has indicated that it is important to you as well.
I wouldn't personally recommend it even if it were polished.
VisceralBowl
Member
The PC version of the patch isn't out yet.
GraceflAnger
Member
I believe this is the episode of Mythbusters when they tried to see if you could make shit shine. Correct me if I'm wrong.
EmptySpace
Banned
marketing worked.
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