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Trevor Noah to replace John Stewart on The Daily Show

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metalslimer

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Also I have to agree that Stewart has never been the greatest comedian on air. He was great because he was able to inject a little comedy into some serious stories and yet still do serious interviews

Last Week tonight is essentially the pinnacle so far of TDS style. It's much nicer without the mostly useless interviews.
 
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fallengorn

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It's hard to say if he'll do well or not at this point. The show's going to be designed around him. Who knows what his TDS is going to look like.
 
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berzeli

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Terrific choice, I enjoyed his bits on TDS, I've found his stand up to be terrific and I along with Steven Fry and Sandi Toksvig totally melted when he appeared on QI.
 
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BigMack

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Not sure how he'll do covering political stories where he needs to a bit angry. The comedy clip, while funny, he seems a little too happy go lucky.

I like how Stewart ensured that the Fox n Friends crowd will be twice as pissed after he's gone lol.
 
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JDSN

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My favorite aspect of him is gonna be the fox news people pointing out too many times that they are not racist before they start bashing him and his nationality.
 
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Imm0rt4l

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BigMack said:
Not sure how he'll do covering political stories where he needs to a bit angry. The comedy clip, while funny, he seems a little too happy go lucky.

I like how Stewart ensured that the Fox n Friends crowd will be twice as pissed after he's gone lol.
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No one goes to a standup comedy show to come out angry.
 
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Enduin said:
Jon isn't perfect but he's pretty smart and can conduct an interesting interview the vast majority of the time. The only ones that ever really flopped for me, outside celebrity interviews, which are a waste 9/10, are the major political or pundit guests which are always BS because they can't be hard hitting or really serious even if they wanted them to. But when it comes to interviews with academics, writers, filmmakers or with not super high profile government and political figures he normally is quite strong and a good interviewer.

Colbert was the worst at interviews because he could never put aside his character and anytime he got remotely close to conducting a good interview and having a real discussion that was informative he'd sabotage it with some stupid tangent or derail it to focus on his persona. Oliver on the other hand really doesn't conduct interviews at all and he never struck me as all too good at them. As well Jon's not a total dick like Bill who ruins half of the good shit he says with really horrible stuff a minute later. And yeah Jon's not amazingly funny but his corny nature is endearing and works really well with the style of the show.
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This is the first time I've heard anyone compliment Jon Stewart's interviews. Of the three you just mentioned, he was by far the worst. 99% of his interviews were boring fluff pieces and the occasional time he'd try to dig into someone, they'd almost always run rings around him.

Colbert's interviews depended on the interviewee being in on the joke and quick enough to counter his bullshit. Sometimes it was a complete disaster, other times it was merely okay but when it really worked, it crushed any interview Jon's ever done.

As for John Oliver, he was awkward to begin with and didn't seem to have any interest at all in Hollywood bullshit but he improved a hell of a lot after a couple of weeks and was much better than Jon by the end of that short run.

metalslimer said:
Also I have to agree that Stewart has never been the greatest comedian on air. He was great because he was able to inject a little comedy into some serious stories and yet still do serious interviews

Last Week tonight is essentially the pinnacle so far of TDS style. It's much nicer without the mostly useless interviews.
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I think a part of that was because the show was so scripted. One of my favourite periods of the show was during the writers strike, when Jon (and Colbert) basically just made shit up as they went. The Jon/Colbert/Conan feud was amazing.

Completely agree about Last Week Tonight. I've seen a few posts in this and previous threads of people hoping John would go back to Comedy Central and I think they're crazy (and not just because John's locked down for another couple of years). John Oliver leaving Comedy Central for HBO was an incredible move. Not only are the interviews gone but it gives him a bigger budget and more freedom to do what he wants and he's been hitting it out of the park ever since. Plus him leaving eventually opened up this opportunity for Trevor Noah.

Anyway, I really like this choice and I'm interested to see how Trevor goes. Basically the complete opposite of how I felt when they announced Larry Wilmore would replace Colbert.
 
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Dr.Acula

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Colbert, Oliver (when he did his TDS stint), and Wilmore all got off to pretty slow starts, and they were experienced correspondents. Noah has only done 3 segments! He's really being thrown to the wolves here.

As much as I want to hope Noah does well, with those other guys, at least I was familiar with them for their work in "fake news." Same goes for Jessica or Asif. Noah is very much an unknown quantity.
 
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metalslimer said:
Last Week tonight is essentially the pinnacle so far of TDS style. It's much nicer without the mostly useless interviews.
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ehhhhhhhhhhhh

LWT is great and very informative while being entertaining, but I honestly do not find it to be nearly as funny as TDS. It's basically John Oliver reporting on a story and every 30 seconds pretending to yell at an imaginary person for the purpose of shoehorning in a joke that is at best tangentially related to the subject matter. Then you have dumb song and dance acts, and 'And Now This' which can be pretty funny but is nothing more than news clips that can probably be found on the internet. The funniest aspect of the show is when it interacts with the outside world in bizarre ways, like getting the FCC chairman to say "I am not a dingo" or getting into a twitter war with the president of Ecuador. I just find the comedy writing on the show to be weak. What it definitely has over TDS is that it doesn't have to waste time on bullshit.
 
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demon said:
ehhhhhhhhhhhh

LWT is great and very informative while being entertaining, but I honestly do not find it to be nearly as funny as TDS. It's basically John Oliver reporting on a story and every 30 seconds pretending to yell at an imaginary person for the purpose of shoehorning in a joke that is at best tangentially related to the subject matter. Then you have dumb song and dance acts, and 'And Now This' which can be pretty funny but is nothing more than news clips that can probably be found on the internet. The funniest aspect of the show is when it interacts with the outside world in bizarre ways, like getting the FCC chairman to say "I am not a dingo" or getting into a twitter war with the president of Ecuador. I just find the comedy writing on the show to be weak. What it definitely has over TDS is that it doesn't have to waste time on bullshit.
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As someone who didn't start watching until the second season aired I've noticed this while marathoning the first season.... I wish he'd stop doing that
 
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Lucky Seven

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I barely watched the show but I always felt that having a white, old, American was a significant part to the show's charm. Having a younger and more hip host isn't the same to me.
 
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Lucky Seven said:
I barely watched the show but I always felt that having a white, old, American was a significant part to the show's charm. Having a younger and more hip host isn't the same to me.
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the shows been on for 17 years. jon was like... 37 when he started. the new guy is 31. That isn't to big of a jump.

Plus jon is only in his early 50s. doing the show has simply worn him out.
 
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Enduin

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LiquidSolid said:
This is the first time I've heard anyone compliment Jon Stewart's interviews. Of the three you just mentioned, he was by far the worst. 99% of his interviews were boring fluff pieces and the occasional time he'd try to dig into someone, they'd almost always run rings around him.

Colbert's interviews depended on the interviewee being in on the joke and quick enough to counter his bullshit. Sometimes it was a complete disaster, other times it was merely okay but when it really worked, it crushed any interview Jon's ever done.

As for John Oliver, he was awkward to begin with and didn't seem to have any interest at all in Hollywood bullshit but he improved a hell of a lot after a couple of weeks and was much better than Jon by the end of that short run.
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I'm not talking about hard hitting interviews, those will never work on this type of show. There's just not enough time for one thing to have any kind of worthwhile debate or exchange. I'm talking about being informative, which Jon is generally quite good at. Colbert would talk over his guests every time, routinely cutting them off whenever they were trying to say anything worthwhile. Though most of the time he had on shitty guests so they often didn't have much to say in the first place. The worst being musical acts. The only good stuff he did was the whole Super Pac stuff with Trevor Potter and somewhat the Supreme Court stuff with that one chick.

Jon at least is capable of asking decent questions and shutting up long enough for guests to respond fully and then take that information and come back with a decent followup question or comment to further things along. Oliver wasn't bad but he just doesn't have the experience, he was a decent stand in. I'm sure he'd get a lot better with time, but I'm more than happy with LWT not having regular guest interviews since most would end up being pointless like every other show that does them.

Don't get me wrong the majority of interviews on TDS have been pointless, I wish they'd cut them out of be a staple of the show and just have them when they have someone who is really worthwhile. Celebs are normally terrible unless they have a good rapport with Jon, then at least they're entertaining, and most current politicians are crap because they're there just for fluff pieces, but every week there's usually one good interview where the person there actually wants to talk about the subject they're there for and not just plug their book or film with some dry back and forth.
 
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I didn't know much of the dude until his name was mentioned the other day as a candidate for the job. But it does make sense to hire someone young enough that they could potential fill the role for an extended period of time, and with his background he should have a lot more perspective than most of the other contenders.

I'll actually wait to see him as host before I make any judgments - and not just after the first episode.
 
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Lucky Seven said:
I barely watched the show but I always felt that having a white, old, American was a significant part to the show's charm. Having a younger and more hip host isn't the same to me.
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Jon wasn't that old when he took over the Daily Show. He was probably closer to Trevor's age. I disagree with the white part, but I do hope Trevor Noah gets as worked up about the absurdities of American politics as Jon did. Then again, as others have pointed out, Jon Oliver doesn't have much issue getting into American politics, so there's no reason for me to rule out Trevor Noah.

Anyways, from Trevor Noah's work on the Daily Show so far, he wasn't who I was expecting to see taking over. Both John Oliver and Larry Wilmore would have been good, but the timing didn't work out before they got their own shows. Aasif Mandvi, Wyatt Cenac, Samantha Bee would have all been great.

I've been watching the Daily Show since the first episode back in 1996, through all of both the Craig Kilborn and Jon Stewart years. I never watched traditional late-night TV like Letterman, Conan, Leno, etc. This has been the one staple show I've been watching for nearly the past twenty years, so I'm a little invested in it, and I'm hoping they're confidence in Trevor Noah is well founded. I'll be looking up some of his standup to get better acquainted with him.

EDIT: Also, I realize how old I am now and it's going to be a little weird having a Daily Show host that's younger than me. :(
 
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Blueblur1

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That video on the first page was fantastic. I was laughing the entire time! I'm really looking forward to seeing him host the show.
 
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Ultima_5 said:
the shows been on for 17 years. jon was like... 37 when he started. the new guy is 31. That isn't to big of a jump.

Plus jon is only in his early 50s. doing the show has simply worn him out.
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I think he has just given up on watching media coverage and is throwing in the towel.
 
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SURGEdude

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I'll give him a chance but his segments have been really cringeworthy so far. But I'd love to be proven wrong and see the show succeed.
 
DietRob

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Mesousa said:
"America may be this, but AFRICA is this."


Absolutely rubbish choice. Wont be watching.
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Yep this is his entire shtick. It better change or I won't be watching either. I don't give any shits about the differences between Africa and America. Neither does the majority of the audience. I hope Jon realizes this since he's still going to be an EP.

If they were limiting the pool to current correspondents they should have gone with Jordan Klepper.
 
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Mesousa said:
"America may be this, but AFRICA is this."


Absolutely rubbish choice. Wont be watching.
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WhatRobEats said:
Yep this is his entire shtick. It better change or I won't be watching either. I don't give any shits about the differences between Africa and America. Neither does the majority of the audience. I hope Jon realizes this since he's still going to be an EP.

If they were limiting the pool to current correspondents they should have gone with Jordan Klepper.
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Oh so like Jon Stewart who kept on making jokes about how Jews are and NYC differences of pizza eating and everything else from rest of USA?

Does he have to care about what the majority of the audience cares about? What's wrong with doing what you know and bringing a personal flavour between the jokes written for you by the team?
 
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Daily Show existed before John Stewart.

Much like The Tonight Show is currently doing fine under Fallon, I'd like to give the dude the benefit of the doubt. I enjoy the shit out of John Stewart, but I'd like to see how this goes before I call the ship sunk. A lot of segments with John Oliver were also super cringey, but he's doing a fantastic job on his own.
 
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Dr.Acula said:
Colbert, Oliver (when he did his TDS stint), and Wilmore all got off to pretty slow starts, and they were experienced correspondents. Noah has only done 3 segments! He's really being thrown to the wolves here.

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Nah, Oliver freaking exploded out of the gate with LWT.
 
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Fusebox said:
Nah, Oliver freaking exploded out of the gate with LWT.
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Yeah, but it took him a little while to find his footing when he took over for Jon when he went off to make Rosewater. That experience really helped him with LWT because he did explode out of the gate there.
 
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studyguy said:
Daily Show existed before John Stewart.
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The Daily Show existed before Jon Stewart, but I doubt it would exist today if not for Jon Stewart.

The Craig Kilborn version of the show was lightweight and superficial compared to the one Jon Stewart built up in time. Kilborn only spent three years on the show, but it probably would have fizzled out well before now had Jon Stewart not taken over.
 
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Derekloffin

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Seems like he knows his stuff comedy wise, so all power to him. Hope it works out well. It is always iffy when you have a change a long standing host.
 
DietRob

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i've been begging for over 5 years.
Messofanego said:
Oh so like Jon Stewart who kept on making jokes about how Jews are and NYC differences of pizza eating and everything else from rest of USA?

Does he have to care about what the majority of the audience cares about? What's wrong with doing what you know and bringing a personal flavour between the jokes written for you by the team?
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Yea I get what you mean about Jon leaning on the Jewish angle a bit the difference here is that a large segment of the audience can identify with the Jewish bits. Maybe some people can identify with the Africa bits but not nearly as many.

The pizza thing only started last year when Rahm was on the show. Oh and with Douchebag Donald.
 
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WhatRobEats said:
Yea I get what you mean about Jon leaning on the Jewish angle a bit the difference here is that a large segment of the audience can identify with the Jewish bits. Maybe some people can identify with the Africa bits but not nearly as many.

The pizza thing only started last year when Rahm was on the show. Oh and with Douchebag Donald.
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i think his point was that what they did as standup didn't have a huge impact on the show. they won't simply be doing their routines
 
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