No one, we don't know much about the game yet. But everything in this trailer almost feels like it's setting you up for a boss fight.But who's saying this is the only time you'll get to fight her?
No one, we don't know much about the game yet. But everything in this trailer almost feels like it's setting you up for a boss fight.But who's saying this is the only time you'll get to fight her?
Uh...
That isn't what people are arguing about in this thread.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
There was a statement not far above mine talking about how her being dismissed by Drake was a trope and her taking off heels was ridiculous and blah blah and I've tried many statements in the same vein. The whole race thing isn't even worth mentioning it is so dumb
Can't wait for people to complain that you shouldn't have a fight scene between a male and female in a game.
I can already see the Anita video.
This made me chuckle.
I dislike the character for those same reasons. The flirty banter + "Oh wait, she can actually kick my ass" + 'Glad I can get out of these stupid high-heels and fight' thing is so done.
It's that typical, trope-ish way of showing her to be not your ordinary girl.
Maybe it'll make more sense in context, but I liked the character more as the military leader Nadine appeared to be in the concept art.
Not that old to be able to do crazy stuff like this:
I agree that games could improve on this, but in this case, he's wearing a dress shirt that looks to be tucked in. There's not much hanging the shirt could do. It folds/wrinkles really nicely, though, unless I'm seeing things.I think one thing games can improve on for future gens is better clothes. It'd be cool if Nathan's shirt sorta hung down realistically as he bent over, but instead it's kind of plastered to him.
The character isn't British, pretty sure she's South African.
Which is were I'm having a disconnect with the blowback here. The focus has been entirely on ethnicity, a black VA should voice a black character. But I've seen almost no comment on what nationality that VA should be. I'm assuming that most people are defaulting to American. But whether they were black or white, an american actress would still be imitating the cultural and national identity of the character.
I guess they wanted her to sound Australian & not ghetto.
"Just report & move on."I'm at a loss on how to explain myself aside from how angry I am that you get to get away with this.
Well, that's nice. Not sure why my own kind would knock my teeth out for saying ghetto but ok.. :|I hope you say the same thing one day to the right person, and they do what needs to be done. Whatever that is, I don't know, but I hope it involves dental insurance.
+1 imo tbqhI'm at a loss on how to explain myself aside from how angry I am that you get to get away with this. I hope you say the same thing one day to the right person, and they do what needs to be done. Whatever that is, I don't know, but I hope it involves dental insurance.
Not sure if it has been said but... Kratos is not black and is voiced by a black actor.
+1 imo tbqh
Edit: except the violence but I don't condone that but I do condone dealing with racism
I am disgusted. Shame on you Guerilla.
Is this like the blackface of voice acting? Blackvoice?
You're telling me they couldn't find a black actor to do this? So weird.
She looks and sounds aborigine to me. No ethnic group in South Africa sounds like that. Not even close.
She looks and sounds aborigine to me. No ethnic group in South Africa sounds like that. Not even close.
Not sure if it has been said but... Kratos is not black and is voiced by a black actor.
I am disgusted. Shame on you Guerilla.
I guess they wanted her to sound Australian & not ghetto.
Seeing as one is not enough.
Fupri
Banned
*reads previous few pages*
Mmm, yeah I really dont like any of you.
Well maybe not all of you but I'd say its a strong 90% of Gaf I supremely dislike.
Know what would be a super useful addition to Gaf was if you could block every post after the OP. That way I could get news and updates that I love but not have to read aaaaaallll of your bullshit in threads like these.
What the hell, maybe I should just switch to Reddit permanently.
looks good.
I'll just ignore the rest of this thread.
No.What happened to Drake's voice? Did they change the voice actor?
He sounds more charming than ever in this instance where he's putting on a classy-whisper voice.He sounds so weird now, definitely lost lot of its charm
She's gonna finish him off with her feet.
*reads previous few pages*
Mmm, yeah I really dont like any of you.
Well maybe not all of you but I'd say its a strong 90% of Gaf I supremely dislike.
Know what would be a super useful addition to Gaf was if you could block every post after the OP. That way I could get news and updates that I love but not have to read aaaaaallll of your bullshit in threads like these.
What the hell, maybe I should just switch to Reddit permanently.
Come on.. threats and wishes of physical violence?I'm at a loss on how to explain myself aside from how angry I am that you get to get away with this. I hope you say the same thing one day to the right person, and they do what needs to be done. Whatever that is, I don't know, but I hope it involves dental insurance.
Sounds like a wasted opportunity to not make this a boss fight. We know that Nadine is supposed to be an antagonist and this trailer shows us that she can do some serious ass kicking, so the gameplay opportunities are vast.
Is this like the blackface of voice acting? Blackvoice?
You're telling me they couldn't find a black actor to do this? So weird.
there's a history of racism tied to white people playing black people, at least here in the US there is. If ND's best attempt to further diversify their cast is to have a white woman play a black one then something went terribly wrong somewhere in that process
Why could they not get an Arab/middle eastern actor to voice Salim in Uc3?Laura Bailey voicing a black woman...wut.
Why could you not get a black woman to voice her?
Even if that was the case no South African group (even Afrikaans speakers) sound like that. See this short clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGHS-x0tsU0 or this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL1iVylvnCM . This isn't a case of a bad South African accent, that isn't a South African accent at all.As I said earlier, she sounds like she's going for an Afrikaans accent which is much more typical of white and mixed race South Africans. She does actually look like she's mixed race to me rather than black which seems to line up with her name also. It's not really a great accent either way, to be honest.
See, I agree with the argument re blackface, but the contention here is that there are studies showing that blackvoice and blackbody aren't a thing.
Not a huge amount of them, and they're correlational in nature - but basically you can't judge ethnicity by voice. And you can't judge ethnicity by body shape (removing hair and skin colour). So by bringing ethnicity into the discussion, you're actually bringing a prejudice into the discussion (arguably).
It's not the same as blackface. There is no difference in the voices of black or white or any other ethnicity - you get voices of every timbre and quality in each. Similarly you can't tell ethnicity by a body shape - and arguably in Motion Capture all that's being captured. Body shape and movement.
But I entirely see where the detractors are coming from.
Who said ND were attempting to diversify their cast?
it's more that a person of color wasn't given the role. Persons of color already have it hard as it is in the entertainment industry, giving the role to a white person comes off as wrong knowing that and given, again, the incredibly racist history wrt white people playing black people
If people can't fundamentally see the issue in having a white voice actress voice a black character I am at a loss for words.
Some of you are unreal lol. If she was best fit, she was the best fit, the VO director determines that.
Would anyone be upset to know Kimberly Brooks voiced Mass Effect's Ashley?
Hmm, this sounds very interesting if done right. An unwinnable fist fight that shows Nate getting his ass kicked for once.It'd be nice to start off the game with Nate getting his ass kicked by her. Teach you the melee ropes in an unwinnable fist fight.
I'd approve.