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[marrec]

The action scenes will be sloppy and awful.

Good thing it's a WWII movie the- oh shit...

 

[MMarston]

Is Christopher Nolan generally considered a good director?

Fuck yeah he is.

 

[Ahasverus]

the original all quiet on the western front. but most in this thread would sooner want to see another c-tier superhero reboot than revisit a genre classic.

It's funny because Wonder Woman is going to be placed during WWI.

 

[TP-DK]

Nolan is a bad director of action. I can't see the battle sequences being any good in this.

That was my first thought. But there's a first time for everything, so I'm keeping my hopes up even though I'm not a fan of his latest movies.

 

[Blader]

Sounds cool. Interesting change of pace for Nolan.

 

[strafer]

Great film and score. Hopefully Zimmer provides the quality we anticipate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAxDN-FyPn8

 

[FStop7]

Hope he gets some help with the combat/fight scenes.

 

[Trumpets]

Despite being mostly white, weren't Africans somewhat prevalent in European countries? Especially France?

Not in 1940, no.

 

[The Beard]

The action scenes will be sloppy and awful.

I don't know about that. TDK where Joker is in the tunnel firing RPGs, is one of my favorite action scenes. I love those long uncut sequences. His hand to hand combat scenes needed some work though, too many cuts and angles.

 

[Ridley327]

Mata Hari

YOU WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BLOW THE BLOODY KOMMISSAR!

 

[hal9001]

So this has to be rated R or will he go pg13?

 

[foxtrot3d]

Is Christopher Nolan generally considered a good director?

Nah, he's utter garbage never even produced a half-way decent flick. A total hack fraud.

Spoiler

/s

 

[Guzim]

Get your helmet, Guzim. We're heading to war!

It's as if Nolan knew I became a history teacher and wanted me to show a film to my class.

 

[half a moon]

Don't really want

 

[frontovik]

Sounds interesting. I wonder if Dunkirk would have the potential to be the next Saving Private Ryan? It's been a long time since I've seen a memorable WWII film; Fury was such a disappointment.

 

[funkypie]

Yeah I know, I think people might be misconstruing my post as something like "fuck white people" when in reality I just wanted a more diverse cast from Nolan, and that will be pretty difficult to do in a movie set in 1940's Europe for obvious reasons.

Still going to watch it most likely.

So why even bring it up

 

[DMczaf]

It's as if Nolan knew I became a history teacher and wanted me to show a film to my class.

You can show them The Prestige. It's true. All of it.

 

[Ol No Bones]

Hell yeah! Sounds great.

 

[inm8num2]

Cannot wait for this.

 

[Dan]

Yay, something for fans of non-superhero/franchise cinema to see in the summer of 2017

 

[Firemind]

i'd love to them too, but neither of those diminish how important dunkirk was. without it, britain is out the war and is under nazi occupation. without britain the allies have no staging post for even the threat of invasion and america would've either stayed out altogether or been limited to a pacific war. which would have led to either a nazi controlled europe, a soviet controlled europe or one split between the two.

Really now. I thought its signifcance was debated among historians. There's no doubt a loss of 300,000 men would have been tremendous, but I thought the Allies already evacuated a high number of personnel before the French surrendered.

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

I don't know about that. TDK where Joker is in the tunnel firing RPGs, is one of my favorite action scenes. I love those long uncut sequences. His hand to hand combat scenes needed some work though, too many cuts and angles.

I can't stand that sequence. Spatially, it's impossible to keep track of where everyone is. I was so confused in the theater; I only managed to gather what was happening on a rewatch.

 

[PeskyToaster]

Significant huh

Battle of Stalingrad was the turning point in the war.

Or, if you want to keep it on the Western front, there's the Battle of Verdun.

Basically, I want to see the gruesome side of war.

The Battle of the Marne would also be acceptable.

The Marne and Verdun are part of a different war than Stalingrad.

 

[Jezbollah]

Please stop trying to insult all Americans, I'm American and know fully well what Dunkirk is. Not everyone paid attention during history class, this isn't an American thing.

Well, congrats to you.

Thin Red Line.

He also did The Pacific.

 

[jelly]

I don't know about that. TDK where Joker is in the tunnel firing RPGs, is one of my favorite action scenes. I love those long uncut sequences. His hand to hand combat scenes needed some work though, too many cuts and angles.

I can't find the link but there was an article were somone reviewed this scene and all the oddities from a well shot action scene perspective, it looked pretty bad for Nolan. It was good in some areas but even before that article, I notice how creaky and lacking his action scenes are. He is careless and doesn't actually think them through properly and while you may not notice or mind the first time, they do fall apart easily. The actors can be enough of a good distraction but not always.

EDIT

http://www.openculture.com/2011/12/anatomy_of_a_flawed_action_scene.html

Found it.

 

[Currygan]

Nolan wants dat Oscar

he will probably get it

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

Thank god. This whole second world war conflict hasn't been fleshed out enough in fiction. I'm glad somebody has decided to cover it.

 

[ebullientprism]

Tom Hardy (a bright eyed young British Soldier) falls in love with Marion Cotillard (a tough cynical french widow who lost her husband to the EVIL NAZIS!). Their love story plays out in the backdrop of the War culminating in the Dunkirk evacuation. Will Tom chose to follow military orders and evacuate or risk it all and stay back with the love of his life?

Also starring My Cocaine as the boatman who keeps making trips heroically so he can save some more soldiers.

 

[CopperPuppy]

Reposting from the other thread.

The Atonement Dunkrik one shot take scene simply cant be topped. And I say this as a hardcore Nolan fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe3aupFG4iA One of the best scenes in any movie ever.

I fear this is Nolan's attempt to finally get recognized by the Academy.

This.

Atonement's Dunkirk tracking shot is, for me, a crowning cinematic achievement. It's perfection. "Elegy for Dunkirk," the song sung by the soldiers during the shot, is one of my favorite musical arrangements in any film. The gravity it conveys to an already impeccably filmed scene cannot be overstated.

I am excited to see what Nolan does with the subject matter, but it's hard to imagine anything topping Atonement's brief but awe-inspiring take on the event. The Dunkirk scene is filmmaking virtuosity at its finest.

For anyone who hasn't seen this movie, it is a wonderful film of its own accord. If you have any reservations, I implore you to watch it for that scene alone.

 

[FZZ]

So why even bring it up

Thread is about the announcement of the movie.

I said I don't know how to feel about it because I had wanted Nolan to do a movie with a more diverse cast.

My post was just a response to the announcement in the OP?

 

[harSon]

Complaining about diversity in a cast that hasn't been cast yet #ThanksNolan

This isn't the subject matter for diversity. Although I find it funny that after being called out on Interstellar having an entirely white cast, he announced David Oyelowo and David Gyasi soon after.

As for the cast thus far. Who gives a shit about Tom Hardy being cast. Let's talk about Mark Rylance being in the film.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Reposting from the other thread.

The Atonement Dunkrik one shot take scene simply cant be topped. And I say this as a hardcore Nolan fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe3aupFG4iA One of the best scenes in any movie ever.

I fear this is Nolan's attempt to finally get recognized by the Academy.

I love Joe Wright, but that scene is honestly kind of empty outside of the fact it was done in one take. It's an incredibly impressive visual and technical feat that draws attention to itself and away from the film at hand.

 

[Kimaxe]

It's the first time living in Dunkirk is a good thing for me. I live on the beach, I'll have my own IRL trailer/behind the scenes. I'm a movie and WWII big nerd, what a glorious time to be alive.

 

[p2535748]

Reposting from the other thread.

The Atonement Dunkrik one shot take scene simply cant be topped. And I say this as a hardcore Nolan fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe3aupFG4iA One of the best scenes in any movie ever.

I fear this is Nolan's attempt to finally get recognized by the Academy.

I'm going to start a firestorm with this, but I hate this shot. Okay, hate is strong, but this shot is, in my opinion, the quintessential example of a shot that takes you out of the movie. The shot has no meaning, no importance to the film. It's not enhancing what's going on on screen, it's not important to build a mood, it's simply there to be impressive. You end up being impressed by the shot rather than being drawn further into the story.

Comparatively, the tracking shot in the first season of True Detective perfectly enhances the chaos on screen as they rush through house after house. In the opening of Touch of Evil, a bomb is planted under a car, and the lack of cuts focuses tension since we're acutely aware of the passage of time.

There are tons of other examples, of course (Gravity, Nostalghia, Children of Men), but the important point is that in every case, the shot is saying something about what's happening in the story. Here, it's just saying "look what a cool shot this is!"

 

[marrec]

Really now. I thought its signifcance was debated among historians. There's no doubt a loss of 300,000 men would have been tremendous, but I thought the Allies already evacuated a high number of personnel before the French surrendered.

It was less about the French surrender and more about the incompetence of the German High Command. If they had decided to move on Dunkirk instead of consolidating their forces they would have captured hundreds of thousands of Allied troops and probably gotten a surrender out of Britain.

 

[badcrumble]

Looking forward to the scene(s) in which Michael Caine tells the audience what the film's themes are.

 

[Arnie7]

I wonder who will play Hitler. He has to have a scene where he pauses the attack and allows British to escape.

 

[Dany]

Interstellar had amazing action.

 

[Joni]

Should have done a World War I movie. He probably has enough pull to get one made.

 

[harSon]

Interstellar had amazing action.

i was a fan of the intergalactic guitar scenes

 

[PeskyToaster]

Should have done a World War I movie. He probably has enough pull to get one made.

The time is ripe. We are right in the middle of the 100th anniversary for it.

 

[Harry Stewart]

Looking forward to the scene(s) in which Michael Caine tells the audience what the film's themes are.

He'll be the strict general who in his dying moments tells Hardy to follow his heart and go help his gf, Cotillard's "never surrender, vive la resistance" character. Maybe Hardy and Cotillard will fight and die together in the end. Ken Watanabe will be on hand as a Japanese army consultant to the invading Nazi force. He'll look pensively at their dead bodies and at a captured soldier played by Cillian Murphy, say something deep but incomprehensible. Roll credits.

 

[Ol No Bones]

There are some great stories that could have films from WW2. I would love to see WW 2 games return as well.

 

[M52B28]

Well, congrats to you.



He also did The Pacific.

Understand that anything passed the United States, Nazi Germany, and the Japanese were more really discussed in US History classes in our grade schools.

Despite being somewhat educated on WWII, I haven't heard of Dunkirk, but I knew slightly of France's role in WWII.

 

[marrec]

He'll be the strict general who in his dying moments tells Hardy to follow his heart and go help his gf, Cotillard's "never surrender, vive la resistance" character. Maybe Hardy and Cotillard will fight and die together in the end. Ken Watanabe will be on hand as a Japanese army consultant to the invading Nazi force. He'll look pensively at their dead bodies and at a captured soldier played by Cillian Murphy, say something deep but incomprehensible. Roll credits.

Michael Caine is obviously going to play Bill Tennant.

 

[Joni]

The time is ripe. We are right in the middle of the 100th anniversary for it.

Indeed. Yet it will be forgotten again. Worst thing is, you wouldn't even have to change the setting that much. Dunkirk was a major central for the allied WWI troops.

Michael Caine is obviously going to play Bill Tennant.

Charles Lightoller, the guy from the Titanic

 

[John Dunbar]

an exciting movie about not being attacked.

 

[ArmGunar]

Pirates 5 (7th July)

Planet of the Apes (14th July)

Pitch Perfect 3 (21st Juy)
Dunkirk (21st July)

Spiderman (28th July)

Nice release date

 

[DeathyBoy]

'Bad action scenes'

I don't even. Like he's clearly not the best, but some of you guys clearly demonstrate no knowledge of truly bad action sequences. Like the chase between Blade and Drake in Blade 3.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Also writing it? Yeah?

Well...