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Gafia 2: The Bride of Gafia |Mafia OT| One Wedding, Many Funerals
- Thread starter RetroMG
- Start date
AbsolutBro
Member
Yes, because you have clearly given us towny vibes all game
I have questioned, I have posted and reasoned with what limited information I have access to.
Awful high and mighty for someone whose head was on the block not long ago.
Xamtheking
Member
I claimed and proved that I have the ability I said I didI have questioned, I have posted and reasoned with what limited information I have access to.
Awful high and mighty for someone whose head was on the block not long ago.
You haven't
Therein lies the difference
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Well, I'll just say it. My power is difficult to prove or basically unprovable unless you can check on the other people's actions and targets. That's probably why mafia has left me alive this long - just because there's no evidence to prove anything.
But, now, there's a separate possibility since weemad flipped - a lost partner. Mafia could be scapegoating me as their partner.
But, now, there's a separate possibility since weemad flipped - a lost partner. Mafia could be scapegoating me as their partner.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Which leads me to Ouro who has been far too trusting. If Ouro flips scum, you'd think he was buying my claim for this reason.
AbsolutBro
Member
...?
Arsonist has doused 2 targets.
IF they need 3 targets:
-lynch me today; I will flip town
-arsonist hits someone else
-tim or launch are primary non-doused targets (assuming both are at the new dousees table)
-lynch launch (as he said in his post)
-tim pushes button, making whole hunt moot
-or-
Arsonist has doused 2 targets.
IF they need 3 targets:
-lynch me today; I will flip town
-arsonist hits someone else
-tim or launch are primary non-doused targets (assuming both are at the new dousees table)
-lynch Tim
-A: Tim is the arsonist and hunt ends
-B: Tim isnt the arsonist, arsonist hits button making the whole thing moot
so in 2/3 scenarios, boom
Which leads me to Ouro who has been far too trusting. If Ouro flips scum, you'd think he was buying my claim for this reason.
I believe you, but not because of that. I happen to have information that makes me think you're telling the truth.
AbsolutBro
Member
I claimed and proved that I have the ability I said I did
You haven't
Therein lies the difference
You have that luxury. Good for you. Doesn't make you town, just means youre not the arsonist.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I believe you, but not because of that. I happen to have information that makes me think you're telling the truth.
I see. Ok, keep that to yourself for now.
AbsolutBro
Member
Also holy crap slowest poison ever.
Also holy crap slowest poison ever.
Ja...ssso, vai do you deflect so, meester AbsolutBro? Tell me, vhat vas your relationship vis your mother?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Also holy crap slowest poison ever.
A thought just occurred to me
What if the poison isn't on a timer, but a trigger? It uses up the kill action for mafia on that night, but it's undetectable for the night it's activated. You'd have to trace back the actions for when the cups were placed.
A thought just occurred to me
What if the poison isn't on a timer, but a trigger? It uses up the kill action for mafia on that night, but it's undetectable for the night it's activated. You'd have to trace back the actions for when the cups were placed.
I don't think that's the case.
Xamtheking
Member
A thought just occurred to meA thought just occurred to me
What if the poison isn't on a timer, but a trigger? It uses up the kill action for mafia on that night, but it's undetectable for the night it's activated. You'd have to trace back the actions for when the cups were placed.
What if you're high as fuck right now
(That'd be all sorts of fucked up. A scum aligned arsonist?)
AbsolutBro
Member
Ja...ssso, vai do you deflect so, meester AbsolutBro? Tell me, vhat vas your relationship vis your mother?
Because if I dont bring it up, people forget. Like they did the first time, then went, "it'll resolve itself". And promptly forgot again.
If I say nothing, I look suspicious.
If I say something, I look suspicious.
Only difference is one of these things helps town win after you all kill me.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
You guys are expecting that we're going to be getting multiple kills one of these days/nighta. Is that really not crazier than having the poison be on a trigger and taking up a night kill?
Xamtheking
Member
It is if you combine it with the fact we likely have an arsoYou guys are expecting that we're going to be getting multiple kills one of these days/nighta. Is that really not crazier than having the poison be on a trigger and taking up a night kill?
You guys are expecting that we're going to be getting multiple kills one of these days/nighta. Is that really not crazier than having the poison be on a trigger and taking up a night kill?
I'm saying that because there is an arsonist running around.
AbsolutBro
Member
A thought just occurred to me
What if the poison isn't on a timer, but a trigger? It uses up the kill action for mafia on that night, but it's undetectable for the night it's activated. You'd have to trace back the actions for when the cups were placed.
A single action to kill all the poisoned targets is basically a second arsonist, which doesnt seem right.
I had considered it might be a two part poison, but only because I recently watched the Babylon 5 episode where Lando poisons Reefa. The only issue is that if it has table range, the poisoner might never end up at the same table with the person they want to kill.
i dunno.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I didn't say all of them. They may be planting the seeds and can only execute one player per night phase.
OK, so missed a bunch of pages. So takeaway is nin and Terra are both motion trackers that just get a notification if something happens in either seat next to them. Relevant, but I'm not sure how much this helps us right now.
N1 Time and Burb
and
N2 Camjo and Ty4on
I will say I did not move on night one. Burb claims the same. So that leaves either Burb or I as the target of some night action, for whatever that is worth.
As for Camjo and Ty4on. Ty4on claims he's ordinary. Camjo hasn't come forward yet.
Well, yeah. That's how it works when we have 3 suspects for the arsonist. We have a 1/3 shot of being right. If it's a 3-douse and then activate we need to find them now. Are you suggesting we give up hunting the arsonist, then? I'm not really seeing how this clears you at all, tbh.
N1 Time and Burb
and
N2 Camjo and Ty4on
I will say I did not move on night one. Burb claims the same. So that leaves either Burb or I as the target of some night action, for whatever that is worth.
As for Camjo and Ty4on. Ty4on claims he's ordinary. Camjo hasn't come forward yet.
Arsonist has doused 2 targets.
IF they need 3 targets:
-lynch me today; I will flip town
-arsonist hits someone else
-tim or launch are primary non-doused targets (assuming both are at the new dousees table)
-lynch launch (as he said in his post)
-tim pushes button, making whole hunt moot
-or-
Arsonist has doused 2 targets.
IF they need 3 targets:
-lynch me today; I will flip town
-arsonist hits someone else
-tim or launch are primary non-doused targets (assuming both are at the new dousees table)
-lynch Tim
-A: Tim is the arsonist and hunt ends
-B: Tim isnt the arsonist, arsonist hits button making the whole thing moot
so in 2/3 scenarios, boom
Well, yeah. That's how it works when we have 3 suspects for the arsonist. We have a 1/3 shot of being right. If it's a 3-douse and then activate we need to find them now. Are you suggesting we give up hunting the arsonist, then? I'm not really seeing how this clears you at all, tbh.
A thought just occurred to me
What if the poison isn't on a timer, but a trigger? It uses up the kill action for mafia on that night, but it's undetectable for the night it's activated. You'd have to trace back the actions for when the cups were placed.
So like...the arsonist?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Ok ok, it's a silly idea. But it is bugging me that nothings happened yet.
Xamtheking
Member
My new theory is just a neutral Vendor role that has to give X drinks to winOk ok, it's a silly idea. But it is bugging me that nothings happened yet.
Xamtheking
Member
In my heart I want it to be CabotMaybe it really is just a drink guy.
But my brain is like "no"
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
My new theory is just a neutral Vendor role that has to give X drinks to win
So, you're saying one of us works for Microsoft?
Ok. We are getting way off topic here, so I may as well just nip this in the bud.
I've been the one handing out drinks. I am Cabot, the Glaswegian. Every night, I choose two people who are adjacent to each other at my table and get a round of drinks for BOTH of them.
N1 I targeted Xam and RobotNinjaHornets, but other than Xam still somehow getting his drink, I have no idea who received the other one due to what I assume was Launch's swapping shenanigans.
N2 I targeted CzarTim and Fireblend. Fireblend hasn't mentioned getting a drink, so if he didn't, I have no idea where it went or if it was stopped/blocked, or what. Fire, can you check your PMs to make sure you did or didn't receive it?
The drinks don't do anything other than marking who I have targeted. Xam and Czar aren't going to die (well, not by me, at least). Salva pretty much nailed it in his earlier post. I'm basically a cowlicker
. I'm neutral. I win when I manage to give all living players a drink. Every few nights I have to take a break from drinking so I can rally and get back to it the next night.
So yes, I have a vested interest in finding out who the arsonist is.
My confusion is this. Each night, one of my drinks somehow went into the aether. No idea who got them.
I've been the one handing out drinks. I am Cabot, the Glaswegian. Every night, I choose two people who are adjacent to each other at my table and get a round of drinks for BOTH of them.
N1 I targeted Xam and RobotNinjaHornets, but other than Xam still somehow getting his drink, I have no idea who received the other one due to what I assume was Launch's swapping shenanigans.
N2 I targeted CzarTim and Fireblend. Fireblend hasn't mentioned getting a drink, so if he didn't, I have no idea where it went or if it was stopped/blocked, or what. Fire, can you check your PMs to make sure you did or didn't receive it?
The drinks don't do anything other than marking who I have targeted. Xam and Czar aren't going to die (well, not by me, at least). Salva pretty much nailed it in his earlier post. I'm basically a cowlicker
goddammit, Sorian
So yes, I have a vested interest in finding out who the arsonist is.
My confusion is this. Each night, one of my drinks somehow went into the aether. No idea who got them.
Xamtheking
Member
Can we not cross the streams pleaseSo, you're saying one of us works for Microsoft?
Xamtheking
Member
So, you're saying one of us works for Microsoft?
BRB in a few hours when I think I can stop laughing at the irony of thisOk. We are getting way off topic here, so I may as well just nip this in the bud.
I've been the one handing out drinks. I am Cabot, the Glaswegian. Every night, I choose two people who are adjacent to each other at my table and get a round of drinks for BOTH of them.
N1 I targeted Xam and RobotNinjaHornets, but other than Xam still somehow getting his drink, I have no idea who received the other one due to what I assume was Launch's swapping shenanigans.
N2 I targeted CzarTim and Fireblend. Fireblend hasn't mentioned getting a drink, so if he didn't, I have no idea where it went or if it was stopped/blocked, or what. Fire, can you check your PMs to make sure you did or didn't receive it?
The drinks don't do anything other than marking who I have targeted. Xam and Czar aren't going to die (well, not by me, at least). Salva pretty much nailed it in his earlier post. I'm basically a cowlicker. I'm neutral. I win when I manage to give all living players a drink. Every few nights I have to take a break from drinking so I can rally and get back to it the next night.goddammit, Sorian
So yes, I have a vested interest in finding out who the arsonist is.
My confusion is this. Each night, one of my drinks somehow went into the aether. No idea who got them.
It is not lost on meBRB in a few hours when I think I can stop laughing at the irony of this
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Ok. We are getting way off topic here, so I may as well just nip this in the bud.
I've been the one handing out drinks. I am Cabot, the Glaswegian. Every night, I choose two people who are adjacent to each other at my table and get a round of drinks for BOTH of them.
N1 I targeted Xam and RobotNinjaHornets, but other than Xam still somehow getting his drink, I have no idea who received the other one due to what I assume was Launch's swapping shenanigans.
N2 I targeted CzarTim and Fireblend. Fireblend hasn't mentioned getting a drink, so if he didn't, I have no idea where it went or if it was stopped/blocked, or what. Fire, can you check your PMs to make sure you did or didn't receive it?
The drinks don't do anything other than marking who I have targeted. Xam and Czar aren't going to die (well, not by me, at least). Salva pretty much nailed it in his earlier post. I'm basically a cowlicker. I'm neutral. I win when I manage to give all living players a drink. Every few nights I have to take a break from drinking so I can rally and get back to it the next night.goddammit, Sorian
So yes, I have a vested interest in finding out who the arsonist is.
My confusion is this. Each night, one of my drinks somehow went into the aether. No idea who got them.
Hmm. Into the aether? Did you receive a message about it or is your confirmation that those players didn't receive their drinks?
Hmm. Into the aether? Did you receive a message about it or is your confirmation that those players didn't receive their drinks?
Interesting.
I'll say now that I didn't receive any drink last night. Are you sure your PM doesn't say only one of your targets will receive their drink?
Yes. But I don't get confirmation. Only what players state in he thread. And yes both players should have received a drink.
AbsolutBro
Member
Well, yeah. That's how it works when we have 3 suspects for the arsonist. We have a 1/3 shot of being right. If it's a 3-douse and then activate we need to find them now. Are you suggesting we give up hunting the arsonist, then? I'm not really seeing how this clears you at all, tbh.
I was responding to Ouro who seemed confused by my post. As far as Im concerned, if we believe Launch and assume the arsonist doesnt need to douse themselves, I AM voting for the arsonist.
Yes, four people should have drinks. It might not be RNH if Launch did indeed swap the table.So what you're saying is that four people should have drinks, but only two have claimed to have them?
I could see RNH not telling because he has been so absent from the game, but Fireblend? Not so much.
...Wait. Isn't that role almost completely RNG relied on winning, then?
Never mind, I misread Ouro's roleclaim as "I give drinks to people sitting next to me" first.
Maybe a scum switcher swapped with me and they ended up with the drink, but I have no idea why anyone would want to switch with me. Maybe an attempt to make one of the trackers get a positive action read from me, make me seem scummy? It'd make sense not to let everyone know they got a drink in that case.
Thanks, Ouro. That clarifies the whole drink thing a little more.
So two drinks lost, huh. I could see RNH forgetting to mention it, but Fireblend confirms he didn't get his. Ouro, you think this could be due to Launch's swapping? That would explain why RNH's drink got lost, but not Fireblend's.
So two drinks lost, huh. I could see RNH forgetting to mention it, but Fireblend confirms he didn't get his. Ouro, you think this could be due to Launch's swapping? That would explain why RNH's drink got lost, but not Fireblend's.
AbsolutBro
Member
Never mind, I misread Ouro's roleclaim as "I give drinks to people sitting next to me" first.
Its still RNG reliant due to the tables. Its possible, though not probable, that Ouro might never share a table with a particular player.
Updated claim chart:
Claims so far:
Launchpad - Claims 1-shot table scrambler, power works during night, but command is sent during the day. Affects 1 table of Launch's choosing. Flavor is ScraftyDevil, power or alignment hasn't been proven yet.
Xamtheking - Claims 2-shot table scrambler, power works during day. Affects both tables. Flavor is SalvaPot, power is proven, alignment is not.
Bronx-man - Claims gossip chat host, affects the two people sitting next to him. Flavor is Burbeting, power is proven, alignment is most likely town due to Scrafty checking him N1.
Terrabyte - Claims motion detector, is informed if there is acitivity in the seats next to him, but won't know if someone is targeting, or is being targeted. So far power or alignment is not proven. Claims Roytheone as the flavor.
nin1000 - Claims the same power, Ultron as flavor. Power nor alignment isn't proven so far.
Kalor - Claims even night commuter. Xamtheking as flavor. Power nor alignment isn't proben.
Ourobolus - Claims drink giver, neutral survivor/cowlicker. Cabot as Flavor. Power confirmed, alignment is not.
--
Also:
Xamtheking & CzarTim claims being given a drink, n1 and n2 respectably. According to Ouro, these drinks simply serve as marks.
Roytheone & Ourobolus claim to have been doused, n1 and n2 respectably. Seems to be connected to an arsonist, but we don't know for sure.
---
People with no claim/has only soft claimed ordinary
01. AbsolutBro [m] - Likely Arsonist
03. BananaSpacePrincess [f]
04. Burbeting [m]
05. Camjo-Z [m]
06. CzarTim [m] - Likely Arsonist
07. Fireblend [m]
12. RobotNinjaHornets [m]
13. Roytheone [m]
14. Salvapot [m]
16. Timeaisis [m]
17. Ty4on [m]
Claims so far:
Launchpad - Claims 1-shot table scrambler, power works during night, but command is sent during the day. Affects 1 table of Launch's choosing. Flavor is ScraftyDevil, power or alignment hasn't been proven yet.
Xamtheking - Claims 2-shot table scrambler, power works during day. Affects both tables. Flavor is SalvaPot, power is proven, alignment is not.
Bronx-man - Claims gossip chat host, affects the two people sitting next to him. Flavor is Burbeting, power is proven, alignment is most likely town due to Scrafty checking him N1.
Terrabyte - Claims motion detector, is informed if there is acitivity in the seats next to him, but won't know if someone is targeting, or is being targeted. So far power or alignment is not proven. Claims Roytheone as the flavor.
nin1000 - Claims the same power, Ultron as flavor. Power nor alignment isn't proven so far.
Kalor - Claims even night commuter. Xamtheking as flavor. Power nor alignment isn't proben.
Ourobolus - Claims drink giver, neutral survivor/cowlicker. Cabot as Flavor. Power confirmed, alignment is not.
--
Also:
Xamtheking & CzarTim claims being given a drink, n1 and n2 respectably. According to Ouro, these drinks simply serve as marks.
Roytheone & Ourobolus claim to have been doused, n1 and n2 respectably. Seems to be connected to an arsonist, but we don't know for sure.
---
People with no claim/has only soft claimed ordinary
01. AbsolutBro [m] - Likely Arsonist
03. BananaSpacePrincess [f]
04. Burbeting [m]
05. Camjo-Z [m]
06. CzarTim [m] - Likely Arsonist
07. Fireblend [m]
12. RobotNinjaHornets [m]
13. Roytheone [m]
14. Salvapot [m]
16. Timeaisis [m]
17. Ty4on [m]
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Hmm. I think the N1 second person has it but is just not admitting it. Meanwhile, if Fireblend really didn't receive one, it seems we have a visitor role in play. Or, heck, if the second guess is true, then Ouros second cup could have gone to someone who was visited/blocked.
Fireblend, did you receive a message of being visited last night?
Fireblend, did you receive a message of being visited last night?
I considered that, and I think at some point we may end up all at the same table.Its still RNG reliant due to the tables. Its possible, though not probable, that Ouro might never share a table with a particular player.
Hmm. I think the N1 second person has it but is just not admitting it. Meanwhile, if Fireblend really didn't receive one, it seems we have a visitor role in play. Or, heck, if the second guess is true, then Ouros second cup could have gone to someone who was visited/blocked.
Fireblend, did you receive a message of being visited last night?
Nope, nothing.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Ok, we've basically dwindled down our table to 4 non-town/neutral.
Ty4on (claims ordinary)
Burb
CzarTim
AB
There's probably an arsonist and scum among them. It's pretty good odds.
Ty4on (claims ordinary)
Burb
CzarTim
AB
There's probably an arsonist and scum among them. It's pretty good odds.