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Shane Black: RDJ wants Mel Gibson to direct Iron Man 4

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DeathyBoy

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Marvel might as well.

RDJ looked mega invested in Civil War with the material he was given, and given the overarching story it's the best time for another Iron Man film. And given where Stark's head is at, is there anyone better than Gibson/RDJ (who both hit rock bottom) to tell the story of a guy who's hit rock bottom?

Or, to put it another way, RDJ got Marvel to sign off on Shane Black as co-writer/director of Iron Man 3. I think it's fair to say if he exerted his power, he'd be able to get Gibson an interview at least.

And as for 'Hollywood protects their own', Gibson isn't even in the top ten list of fuck-ups in Hollywood. Stuff like Zack G refusing to work with Gibson in The Hangover but working with a convicted rapist in Mike Tyson points out the fabulous hypocrisy of Hollywood.
 

KonradLaw

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I always liked when stars still can be great friends to eachother despite the fame and those three are obviously very tight. Gibson helped RDJ to get out of the gutter, so no wonder RDJ wants to return the favor.

Marvel movie seems like below Mel's talents, but it would bring him into mainstream again, making it easier to secure bigger deals. Altough from what I've heard this might already be happening after how well Hacksaw Ridge was recieved at Cannes.
 
Fuck Mel Gibson.

Really? Downey has been supportive of Gibson.

And for good reason. Mel was great to him. Mel’s been really nice to a lot of people, including me. I’ll go on record saying I don’t believe anyone should be held accountable in any way for something they say while they are drunk. It’s not who they are.

That may be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
 
Hollywood surprises me sometimes.

Anally rape an underage girl and flee justice and you're still showered with praise, standing ovations, etc.

Go on a drunken racist rant and you're blacklisted for life.
 

hamchan

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Sure I'd watch that. He's a great director.

I like that RDJ is trying to pay back Gibson for all the help he's given him too. That's nice.

Hollywood surprises me sometimes.

Anally rape an underage girl and flee justice and you're still showered with praise, standing ovations, etc.

Go on a drunken racist rant and you're blacklisted for life.

Well, it's not too surprising considering which group Mel Gibson was racist ranting about.
 

Calamari41

41 > 38
Would be interesting to see what the free market's decision would be on a Mel Gibson directed Iron Man 4. I doubt Disney wants to take that gamble.
 
Good on Downey for supporting his boy but that drunk comment from Black is ludicrous. In fact i'm MORE inclined to believe someone when they're drunk.
 

Blader

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Or, to put it another way, RDJ got Marvel to sign off on Shane Black as co-writer/director of Iron Man 3. I think it's fair to say if he exerted his power, he'd be able to get Gibson an interview at least.

Gibson has a ton of very public baggage. Black has none of that shit.
 
And as for 'Hollywood protects their own', Gibson isn't even in the top ten list of fuck-ups in Hollywood. Stuff like Zack G refusing to work with Gibson in The Hangover but working with a convicted rapist in Mike Tyson points out the fabulous hypocrisy of Hollywood.

A child rapist can get work and a standing ovation at the Oscars but Mel Gibson is still considered persona non grata in Hollywood. How'd that happen?
 

Slayven

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Marvel got shitted on for the Anicent one, you think they want their name in articles with a dude thtat is on tape talking about how he hopes a woman gets raped by "a pack of niggers"?
 
There is no fucking way Marvel does this.

They are not about to eat the shit they are bound to eat for giving Mel Gibson his free ride back into mainstream acceptance. They just took a bat to the shins for getting Tilda Swinton to play The Ancient One. They still haven't actually managed to make a movie centered solely on a female character.

They're gonna give Iron Man 4 to a bigoted misogynist religious zealot? And just... eat that?

What a waste of goodwill that would be.
 

Slayven

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There is no fucking way Marvel does this.

They are not about to eat the shit they are bound to eat for giving Mel Gibson his free ride back into mainstream acceptance. They just took a bat to the shins for getting Tilda Swinton to play The Ancient One. They still haven't actually managed to make a movie centered solely on a female character.

They're gonna give Iron Man 4 to a bigoted misogynist religious zealot? And just... eat that?

Get out of my head Charlies!!!!
 

RSTEIN

Comics, serious business!
A child rapist can get work and a standing ovation at the Oscars but Mel Gibson is still considered persona non grata in Hollywood. How'd that happen?

There's so many inconsistencies, hypocrisy, convenient lines in the sand. Known rapists get work. Known hard core drug users get work. Ex convicts get work. And the whole system enables a lot of the behavior. I'm not defending Mel Gibson but to be cast aside because of a few comments while A list stars are trying to score smack and diddling underage boys and girls as we speak is a bit strange.
 

Vagabundo

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You ever beat the shit out of your girlfriend? Because we gotta compare apples to apples with ol' Mel here.

No, but I'm not a raging alcohol either.

Saying dumb racist/anti-semetic shit is on the far lower end of the scale than the domestic abuse. If you want to write him off and see him blacklisted because of it that's fair enough.
 

Akuun

Looking for meaning in GAF
Mel is largely responsible for standing up for RDJ when very few would, so it's not surprising to see RDJ trying to support Mel back.
 
Well this would be a great test to see how much bargaining clout RDJ really has. I really can't see Gibson directing unless Downey makes some major salary concessions, if it could even possibly happen at all.

Personally I was under the impression Gibson had been a shit for years, but couldn't be touched because he was a top of the top A-lister. It wasn't until the public tirades that he could be blacklisted without anyone making a fuss.
 

DeathyBoy

Banned
There is no fucking way Marvel does this.

They are not about to eat the shit they are bound to eat for giving Mel Gibson his free ride back into mainstream acceptance. They just took a bat to the shins for getting Tilda Swinton to play The Ancient One. They still haven't actually managed to make a movie centered solely on a female character.

They're gonna give Iron Man 4 to a bigoted misogynist religious zealot? And just... eat that?

What a waste of goodwill that would be.

If they ask RDJ to make Iron Man 4, and he says 'only if Mel directs it', then Mel's getting at least an interview for the job. I get what you're saying, but it's a business and they're not passing up a guaranteed biilion over bad press.

Not to mention how Tilda proves that Marvel does what Marvel wants to do, they don't give a fuck if some nerds or some entertainment websites object.
 
They both should be blacklisted.

Yeah, it's a weird way to look at this situation and argue that because rapists get to make movies so should racist zealots and abusers.

How about none of them should be getting rewarded for their horseshit, and just because some of them still get work doesn't mean everyone should, or that we should reward it ourselves, either.

But then again, this is always way more a personal decision than anything else: It's up to the individual to weigh how much they're willing to set aside in order to enjoy a movie/an album/a comic book/etc. etc.

There's no one-size-fits-all solution for that kinda shit.
 
RDJ open to doing another Iron Man, as long as he can bring in a director guaranteed to torpedo the franchise so no one ever asks again.
 

jett

D-Member
The man made Apocalypto with zero white people
I forgive him for drunken racist tirades. He could be racist specifically against black people tho...
Edit: Wow, the jewish too?

He insulted everyone in those phone calls. Latinos too. He also said some shit against Asians I think. He must've been on something or was just completely out of it, he sounded insane.

Maybe by name/status. The Russo's have been knocking it out of the park lately.

Let me know when the Russo's make something on the level of Braveheart and Apocalypto.
 
Mel is largely responsible for standing up for RDJ when very few would, so it's not surprising to see RDJ trying to support Mel back.

RDJ, and Black for that matter, recovered from bad periods in their lives. It's not like for like. They had substance abuse problems and went sober. Mel's...is more complicated. But I get why they're supportive of it.
 

Foggy

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I'd love to see it. Not gonna happen, probably to the PR benefit of Marvel and creative benefit of Gibson.
 
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