xaosslug
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this is Hollywood. All Mel has to do is make a blockbuster and 'all is forgotten and forgiven' Tho, I highly doubt Disney will be the company to give him that chance. And RDJ needs to relax.
Mel should reach out to WB/DC... LOL
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Shane Black: RDJ wants Mel Gibson to direct Iron Man 4
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this is Hollywood. All Mel has to do is make a blockbuster and 'all is forgotten and forgiven' Tho, I highly doubt Disney will be the company to give him that chance. And RDJ needs to relax.
Mel should reach out to WB/DC... LOL
triplestation
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Directed by Mel Gibson?
Fuck that I want WRITTEN and directed by Mel gibson
I wanna see a weighty iron man movie again
Rated R
Fuck that I want WRITTEN and directed by Mel gibson
I wanna see a weighty iron man movie again
Rated R
Bobby Roberts
Banned
They wouldn't be passing up a guaranteed billion. Their guaranteed billions are coming in regardless who directs an Iron Man 4, or whether an Iron Man 4 even exists.
It's a business: Do you want to spend the time, the money, the goodwill, and the intensely focused marketing campaign necessary to nullify the nonstop negative attention Disney's rehabilitation of Mel Gibson will recieve? For a "guaranteed billion" that you can get elsewhere, through other means that don't come attached to that fucking headache?
Say Black Panther lands the way people want it to. Say the reception to it is massive both at home and overseas. Coogler manages to make a better film than both Creed and Fruitvale combined.
You want Marvel to take that goodwill, those funds, and then immediately turn around and tell the world they're going to be hiring the guy who told his wife he hopes she gets raped by a pack of niggers?
Just because Robert Downey Jr. is feeling sentimental?
gutter_trash
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I hated Iron Man 3 and I hated the Nice Guys.
I rather have Mel Gilbson than Shane Black
I rather have Mel Gilbson than Shane Black
Disney won't do it though. They're like a AAA rated bond right now, with a rather clean reputation. Having a noted racist direct arguably your second biggest property might tarnish that.
(this is coming from someone who thinks Mel is a phenomenal director)
Excellent post. Always 2X more eloquent than myself.
(this is coming from someone who thinks Mel is a phenomenal director)
Excellent post. Always 2X more eloquent than myself.
Yup, the blacklisting and hate Gibson have been getting over the years is pretty disproportionate I must say. Not saying that his drunken racist/sexist rants are in any way acceptable, but he's no way as horrible as some actual criminals in Hollywood that have somehow gone scot-free.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Disney:
Ha ha ha ha, no.
Ha ha ha ha, no.
If the movie's success was dependent on Mel's involvement, they would gladly trade any supposed ill will for a $1 billion box office return. Since it's Iron Man they can just hire a warm body and not bother with any bumps in the road. If you think you can get the same return with a safe director as a risky one, why bother with the risk?
j0hnnix
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Lets not start on the pedo's in hollywood... Mel is a di&@ but there is much worse in Hollywood "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villany".
Calamari41
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I think that the situation, if there were a situation at all, would be more along the lines of "we can get RDJ to agree to make Iron Man 4 in the first place if we hire Gibson" rather than "Iron Man 4 is happening, why would we pick Gibson?" It would be an interesting calculation on the part of Disney, for sure.
Thanks for selectively quoting my post out of context. Here's what I actually said.
But hey, hyperbole. That's good too.
sturgboski
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I was so obsessed with that movie that I had a sequence of sound effects in the first battle memorized. I also picked out all the editing mistakes in that first battle as well (like how when the cavalry charges, there is a clip with Scotts with the pikes up before Mel yells "NOW!" to raise them...or like where he is running with the hammer and all of a sudden its gone and hes wielding the sword due to edits). So many movies have tried to emulate this movie...
I would be super interested in a Mel Gibson take on Iron Man, though I sort of think he would be better with Thor what with the various mythical battles.
Yeah, probably depends on the success of Black Panther and Dr Strange. If their only guaranteed meal tickets are Guardians, Cap, and Avengers then I could see them POSSIBLY doing that. Of course there's Spiderman as well now. There's such an influx of bulletproof money right now and a packed schedule, it makes it seem highly unlikely.
Disney can always make other Marvel movies, what RDJ going to do? Make The Judge 2 and Due Date 2
Disney's done worse.
Also, Mel I'm not really sure Mel would make a great Ironman movie for current MCU. He would be great at tackling the whole alcoholism. But I'm not sure that Ironman movie would fit in with the current MCU vision.
WB's, on the other hand, could use Mel's talents for a DC movie much better.
If Marvel Knights was still around, they could possibly toss him Punisher or something. Who knows, it could turn out to be an unexpected gem like Deadpool.
Bobby Roberts
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I didn't do that. It's completely in context. I didn't quote the whole thing because I didn't need to in order to address what you'd posted. The context of your post is not only still present, but anyone who thinks something might be missing can just... scroll up. Where your post exists.
I don't even know what "hyperbole" you're talking about here.
Considering The Judge was a passion project, I'd say that he probably would prefer to be doing stuff like that.
andythinkpad
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I can see Leo's Revenant character in this Picking epic.
Calamari41
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Yeah, I don't disagree with any of this. Disney is clearly moving ahead full steam under the assumption that there won't be any future Iron Man movies, and they will be more than fine doing so. It would still be interesting to see what they would do, though, considering it would likely be very good money. If RDJ went to them today and unequivocally said "I'm down for one more," I think it's safe to say they'd do what it took to work it into the schedule. If he went to them and said "I'm down for one more if my friend here directs," I'm just saying that it would be interesting to see what would end up happening.
RDJ will, of course, be fine no matter what. He can pull a bigger paycheck than pretty much any other actor in the game just by showing up as a guest star in other Marvel movies.
DarknessTear
Banned
Can people hate someone forever for some things they said a long time ago? Based on this thread, I guess so but I know I can't. I hope he saw how wrong his line of thinking was in his exile.
I would love the hell out of that. Mel could turn into an angrier Verhoeven.
Yay, let's rank anti-semitism against other terrible things other people did! That's fun!
milanbaros
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Branagh is no slouch.
TheFuzz
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It's really not.... RDJ was an alcholic drug addict and Mel stuck his neck out for him.
If RDJ wants another Iron Man movie and tells Disney he wants Mel or he won't do it, Disney will do it.
I'm with you, though. Mel is a FANTASTIC director and writer and would be the most high-profile and proven director they've hired.
Big Baybee
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Fuck that racist piece of shit into obscurity.
Seriously. Fuck off RDJ.
I liked Braveheart a lot as a youngen.
LyleLanley
Banned
You can hate all of them.
HighResTomato
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I would bet that most of Hollywood are racist pieces of shit. They just haven't been outed yet.
However I would watch a Mel Gibson directed Iron Man.
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
Sucks to think about the awesome movies we've missed out on because Mel couldn't keep his racist mouth shut.
Being better than pedophiles isn't saying much.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The question is whether Marvel wants/needs another solo Iron Man movie.
I don't think they do. Not at this point, where their original set of superheroes is starting to get long in the tooth and they're all appearing in team-up movies anyway. Whatever this movie would be, it would have to come after Infinity Wars 1 & 2. Which means we're at least 5 years out from it even possibly getting completed (probably closer to 6-7). That's a Robert Downey Jr. in the ass-end of his 50s, directed by Mel Gibson, in Iron Man 4, coming almost 10 years after Iron Man 3.
I don't see where Kevin Feige signs on for that.
You're equating addiction to being a racist, homophobic misogynist? lol
Also, for all the people acting like that one bout of anti-semitism was just a one-time-thing and, haha, well, everybody says they hate jews if they are drunk, right?, here is a small list of things Mel Gibson said:
- "You look like a fucking pig in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of niggers, it will be your fault." - Phonecall to his Ex
-"I am going to come and burn the fucking house down... but you will blow me first." Same phonecall
- To the same ex, asking him ""What kind of man is that who would hit a woman when she is holding a child in her hands, hitting her twice in the face?": "You know what, you fucking deserved it."
-""With this look, who's going to think I'm gay? I don't lend myself to that type of confusion. Do I look like a homosexual? Do I talk like them? Do I move like them?" and then in response to that "I'll apologize when hell freezes over. They can fuck off."
Mel Gibson is a racist, sexist, anti-semitic homophobe and I find it frankly horrifying how many of you would like to give him the possibility to direct not only one of the biggest movie franchises in the world, but one of the biggest movie franchises partly aimed at children. Fuck that.
- "You look like a fucking pig in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of niggers, it will be your fault." - Phonecall to his Ex
-"I am going to come and burn the fucking house down... but you will blow me first." Same phonecall
- To the same ex, asking him ""What kind of man is that who would hit a woman when she is holding a child in her hands, hitting her twice in the face?": "You know what, you fucking deserved it."
-""With this look, who's going to think I'm gay? I don't lend myself to that type of confusion. Do I look like a homosexual? Do I talk like them? Do I move like them?" and then in response to that "I'll apologize when hell freezes over. They can fuck off."
Mel Gibson is a racist, sexist, anti-semitic homophobe and I find it frankly horrifying how many of you would like to give him the possibility to direct not only one of the biggest movie franchises in the world, but one of the biggest movie franchises partly aimed at children. Fuck that.
Kabuki Waq
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Apocalypto is amazing. I still have no idea how something so bad ass got green lit
RustyNails
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What sucks is Mel is a bone headed idiot. And I love the guy's work. He did not mend his ways. He did not reach out to the Jewish community. He did not ask to be educated, visit memorial sites, museums or make a visit to one of the many horror sites in Europe where Jews were systematically eradicated. No. He just stuck around in the basement and trying to crawl back up based on goodwill from people like Stallone and Jodie Foster (and RDJ). Like dude, you're in showbiz. At least fake the part.
Kabuki Waq
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These guys live in a world where Polanski got a standing ovation.
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